Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - barney100

I am due amajor service next month and reading through various lists of work to be done most of it seems to be..apart from oil and filter change...check this, check that with not much actually done. What do others think about servicing regimes?

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - Falkirk Bairn

Not thorough enough - wheels should be off, brakes fettled not just a squirt of brake cleaner.

Can you add other points?

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - Mike H

Sounds pretty standard, and it has always been thus! But why not? Certain things don't need checking, they should in any event need to be done at specific mileage or time intervals .e.g. oil and filter changes as you mention, plus fuel filter, air filter, pollen filter (not necessarily at the same service). Others need only be done if the "check" indicates it needs doing, and will not necessarily form part of what you might call a service - such as brake pade/disc change. They're commonly called "service items", but only because they will, at some point, need replacing - consumables would be a better expression.

Perhaps it's the word service that's wrong.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - catsdad
If its an older car you might find the MOT checklist covers much if the same ground as the manufacturer list?

So it might work out cheaper to have an MOT and a basic service, then do simple things yourself (air and pollen filters for example I can do in minutes on my car usng OEM parts for under half the price the dealer charges) and then pay as specific extras for anything more complicated such as brake fluid changes.

If however its an expensive, newer car then an official fsh will maintain its value better.
Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - John F

I am due amajor service next month and reading through various lists of work to be done most of it seems to be..apart from oil and filter change...check this, check that with not much actually done. What do others think about servicing regimes?

I think they are mostly overkill; in many cases doing stuff that just doesn't need to be done, e.g. over-frequent brake fluid changes and persuading punters to change half-worn brake pads 'cos they might not last till the next service, squire'. On top of that, they don't do stuff that needs to be done, e.g. cleaning and greasing brake pipes and dealing with any rust as soon as it appears. I have never had a car 'serviced' - I change the oil myself. That way I know it's done properly. The MoT checks are good enough - why pay twice?

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - KJP 123

At one time spark plugs had to be changed, points adjusted and carburettors tuned: not now. It does seem largely a filter and fluids check and change. But the MOT is different: they don’t check if oil filter has been changed, you have to do that.

But a fsh from a main dealer or approved agent is important. Not just during warranty period but after if you want to claim for a defect that should not have occurred within 6 years. It’s not impossible but I think that then you then have to prove servicing to manufactures requirements. Invoice for oil change at x,000 miles does not prove correct oil was used.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - Manatee

Yes it's poor value, and in my opinion inadequate (more often than not they won't even take the wheels off) but we all go along with it to retain the warranty.

From the dealers' point of view, they have to maximise service revenue as they make little money selling new cars.

My MX-5 had its first service today. The dealer I bought it from (at 6 months old) quotes £200 for this service. Another dealer, more convenient for me to use, has just done it for £145 after an owners club discount (from £170).

However - the only things that have been replaced are the oil, oil filter and bung washer. The rest is inspection ticks, tyre tread measuring, and the very important task of checking the expiry date on the puncture outfit.

I felt pleased with my bargain, until I realised what I had paid for an oil change!

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - 72 dudes

My SLK is probably older than yours and I take it to a well respected Mercedes specialist.

He will only change what is neccessary at each 'service'. For instance he checks the coolant and the brake fluid and only changes it if it falls below a certain value. Last time he didn't change the combination or air filter, but he has done so previously.

Of course the engine oil and filter are always changed regardless of mileage (it's my fun car so it only does about 3000 miles a year with no short journeys). No doubt John F would say that this is not neccessary.

But if you are maintaining a MB warranty and/or service record, keep taking it to the dealer.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - barney100

Mine's a 2012 with good service history but I'm only doing 6k at most a year. I intend keeping it for a long while so it's only me who will need to be content with the servicing. It needs an mot soon too so that checks all the safety stuff so I may just get the oil and fliter/ fuel filter and air filter done. I keep up with the bodywork doing any stone chips asap, being a diesel there are no plugs and I give it good quality diesel every other fill up. Other checks I can do myself. Local garages want almost £300 for what amounts to an oil and filter change and brake fluid/ fuel filter. That must be about £100 at most on parts and they make a profit on that so I'm paying £200 for check this..check that. Does that seem a fair breakdown or am I missing something?

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - gordonbennet

All depends whats needed, Merc's service schedules seem designed to confuse.

Toyota had the right regime (have no idea if this is still the case), service based on 9000 miles or annual, alternate major and minor services, basically a minor is an oil change and inspection, a major would be the same plus other filters and change all the diff and gearbox oils (on a 4x4 thats quite a lot) plus strip the brakes clean and lube them correctly, with cambelt at 90k miles.

I would suggest whatever else you have done make sure the brakes get serviced properly following the amount of salt that was put on the roads this winter, and depending on how long since, if ever, maybe its time for coolant, brake fluid and transmission fluid changes.

Also, and i assume here the parking brake is still manual and foot operated drum inside disc, i've seen what can happen inside those drums, unless you (from day one) apply the parking brake gently once in a while rust will build up on the drum face, this them rubs contantly on the brake shoes and can lead to large grooves being worn in said shoes, so if someone is going to check and lube the brakes up properly, it only takes another half an hour to remove the rear calipers and then the discs to check the parking brake shoes...if your car has an electric or other parking brake (i'm not up to speed on new Mercs) then ignore this last paragraph even more than the prior :-)

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - 72 dudes

Also, and i assume here the parking brake is still manual and foot operated drum inside disc, i've seen what can happen inside those drums, unless you (from day one) apply the parking brake gently once in a while rust will build up on the drum face, this them rubs contantly on the brake shoes and can lead to large grooves being worn in said shoes, so if someone is going to check and lube the brakes up properly, it only takes another half an hour to remove the rear calipers and then the discs to check the parking brake shoes...if your car has an electric or other parking brake (i'm not up to speed on new Mercs) then ignore this last paragraph even more than the prior :-)

The SLK was unusual GB in that it had a 'proper' manual handbrake right up to 2011, not sure about Barney's model which is a R172 in MB language.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - gordonbennet

The SLK was unusual GB in that it had a 'proper' manual handbrake right up to 2011, not sure about Barney's model which is a R172 in MB language.

Ah, much obliged to me learned friend, i wasn't sure what the current parking brake system might be, seeing as almost all Mercs are proper autos and the parking brake really only ever gets used when you leave the vehicle i can't understand why they didn't leave that well proved system in place permanently.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - barney100

This 172 has an electric parking brake. I quite liked the old foot operated system which worked well when you got used to it.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - barney100

I don't take chances with brakes and tyres and keep an eye on them myself and if the slightest doubt mosey on down a local garage for a proper check.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - FoxyJukebox

Now my Audi A3 is 11yers old-I have applied the following maintenance regime.

1) MOT -ensuring that all advisables are usually done .

2) Short service 6 months later--asking for a brake check. Air filters --ad hoc. Anything else ad hoc. Cambelt every four years.

3) I book the vehicle in for an "exhaust" check at the end of the winter. This is purely for peace of mind. One fast fit company invites owners to have a look under the car with the mechanic if there are items that are "on the margin". Inspection free-unless something needs doing.

4) Funny noises or poor performance?-immediate referal to garage for inspection or action

I've averaged about £700 a year in maintenance costs these last 4 years

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - John F

I've averaged about £700 a year in maintenance costs these last 4 years

Just for one car? It certainly saves to do it yourself. My average over the last 4 yrs for three cars, Audi A8 (12yrs old), Ford Focus (17), TR7 (38), is £315 per annum. that's for all three, not each. Including MoTs. Not including licence or insurance.

Biggest bill in last 4yrs was a new fuel pump and filter for the Focus - £250.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done? - KJP 123

1) MOT -ensuring that all advisables are usually done .

Not criticising what you have said but looked up the MOT history of a car on autotrader. Had an advisory for brake discs for 3 MOTs and no fail. Low mileage but at least first seems rather too cautious, costing owner unnecessary expense.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - catsdad
I take a view on advisories and am inclined to get them done but not always. They are only an opinion and I've found lots of inconsistencies.

For example....

Our much missed 99 Astra that we had for 17 years had advisories that came and stayed for a year or two then went, never to return. One was for a gearbox mount.....must have repaired itself.

My Civic had an advisory last week for "thin" front pads but a separate brake report as part of the service inspection, same dealer but presumably a different mechanic, recorded them as only 60% worn at 56k miles. Good for a while yet I think.

Wife's Corsa got 4 advisories for tread wear at the last MOT by an independent. Subsequent main dealer electronic measurement showed they were all OK at 3mm (fronts) to 6.6mm (rears). She only does 1500 or so miles a year so no rush but will probably change the 3mm ones for next winter, swapping the new ones to the back.
Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - KJP 123
Wife's Corsa got 4 advisories for tread wear at the last MOT by an independent. Subsequent main dealer electronic measurement showed they were all OK at 3mm (fronts) to 6.6mm (rears). She only does 1500 or so miles a year so no rush but will probably change the 3mm ones for next winter, swapping the new ones to the back.

3mm is where I tend to change my tyres but it is nearly twice the legal limit of 1.6mm. New tyres I think have 8mm of tread so 6.6mm are hardly worn

Interesting point is whether newer tyres should be fitted to back or front. Was thinking of making thread

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - Manatee
Interesting point is whether newer tyres should be fitted to back or front. Was thinking of making thread

Stirrer:)

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - Andrew-T

<< Interesting point is whether newer tyres should be fitted to back or front. Was thinking of making thread >>

Before you do, have a look at all the earlier ones ....

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - Avant

Well said, Andrew.

Slk 250 - Servicing, not much seems to be done - John F
Wife's Corsa got 4 advisories for tread wear at the last MOT by an independent. Subsequent main dealer electronic measurement showed they were all OK at 3mm (fronts) to 6.6mm (rears). She only does 1500 or so miles a year so no rush but will probably change the 3mm ones for next winter, swapping the new ones to the back.

Why not just swap back to front? Should last you another 4yrs at that mileage! Then replace all four at the same time. On 2 wheel drive cars I swap back to front at about half the expected tyre mileage so they wear roughly evenly. (I hope you're not wasting money on an annual oil change ;-)