Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 14:31
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Laimonas

Hello,

am considering between used Honda CR-V 2.2 diesel or Toyota RAV 2.2 diesel, both automatic gear only, made circa 2010 under 70-80 k miles. Have heard about 2.2 Toyota diesel engine head gasket problems, but seems they were fixed after 2009. Any others left? Are Honda's diesels made circa 2010 reliable?

Could anybody compare these 2 cars in terms of reliability and possible future faults. Most of a driving in a city, some 30 percent - country roads by going fishing.

Was thinking about Subaru Forester, but their diesels were problematic until 2011 and surpass my budget.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 14:50
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - badbusdriver

You don't say how much miles you will be doing, but by the sound of it, you'd be much better off with petrol. Regardless of which is more reliable, or even if both are equally reliable, with mainly city driving, you are more likely to suffer problems which would completely erase any economy gains of the diesel. Both the toyota and honda are available with 2.0 petrol and (torque converter) auto gearbox.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 15:00
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - nellyjak

Both excellent vehicles...in petrol form.!

Agree with BBD..it would seem that petrol would be the best bet for you.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 16:08
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Laimonas

Around 15000 miles/year.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 16:32
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - SLO76
I'd favour the CRV here as the Toyota 2.2 D4D isn't a great motor and DPF issues are very common among others but your requirement that it be an auto rules out the pre DPF 2.2 CDTi CRV which would be less likely to give grief. However to add to the confusion Honda's manual diesels are prone to clutch problems while the autos are rarely a problem.

The 2.0 VTEC auto would be by far the most reliable and your limited budget will stretch much further, yes it'll be greedier and slower but there's much less to go wrong. The diesel 2.2 DTEC has plenty of potential woe at this age/price/mileage.

If you absolutely must have a diesel auto SUV it's definitely your best bet however. Buy only with a full Honda main dealer or genuine specialist service history and place this along with condition and no of owners above all else. A car with 120k but full dealer history will be a better car to you than one with 70k and patchy fast fit/backstreet service record.

Don't buy a complex diesel SUV thinking it'll be cheap to run! It won't be. Tyres and repairs will be expensive when they're needed.
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Wed 1 Nov 2017 17:25
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Engineer Andy

What I am continually amazed at that, despite ALL the extensive and very negative publicity regarding diesel DPFs and mainly urban and/or low annual mileage driving, so many people are still utterly clueless on this subject. Its not as though drivers need to be up on the technical side or an engineer of some kind to understand this, especially as the issue has been explained so often in layman's terms.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 18:18
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - badbusdriver

What I am continually amazed at that, despite ALL the extensive and very negative publicity regarding diesel DPFs and mainly urban and/or low annual mileage driving, so many people are still utterly clueless on this subject. Its not as though drivers need to be up on the technical side or an engineer of some kind to understand this, especially as the issue has been explained so often in layman's terms.

It would certainly appear to be the case that the OP has never looked at this forum before!

But, on the bright side, at least the OP is asking before actually buying, instead of buying 1st then coming on here to ask what may go wrong!

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 20:26
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Laimonas

Thank you all for all your thoughts, I do appreciate them.

Actually am 1000 miles away from you, from Lithuania, so found this forum only recently. And will need to buy from Germany as our local market in small country is too tiny to find a good quality second hand car.

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 21:52
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Nickdm

I bought a diesel automatic 4wd 3 years ago. RAV4 was on my shortlist, but I found the Mitsubishi Outlander to be better.

Maybe the Kia Sportage should be on your short list too?

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Wed 1 Nov 2017 21:53
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Pica

I agree with the advice here as I own a 2010 Idtec Auto CRV with 71K. I have owned the car from new and have done lots and lots of short journeys with an odd journey of 200 miles every month. I only use Shell Nitro+ where possible and to date I have had no issues whatsoever with the car or its DPF.

However, I have been very disappointed with the dealer servicing that has amounted to them just doing filters, brake fluid and oil. They have taken shortcuts for example not taking the wheels off to check brake thickness but used dental mirrors instead. The caliper slide pins were not checked or lubricated (although I have done this since myself). The last service consisted of purely changing the oil and filter, having "a look" at and then charging £380 for doing it. A car at this age with full dealer service history would be less desirable to me than one that was well looked after by a good independent specialist who does a proper and thorough job. My CRV will no longer be going to the dealer for servicing especially as they do the bare minimum for the maximum amount they can extract out of you. I have since found a local company specialising in TypeR Civics and the owner has a diesel CRV so he will get the job from now on as I am keeping the car until it dies.

Edited by Pica on 01/11/2017 at 21:56

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Thu 2 Nov 2017 09:32
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Mchenry

I bought a RAV4 diesel automatic new in 2010. It's now done 120000km and has been very good.

I do quite a lot of urban driving, a couple of 60km runs a week and a couple of times a year I couple a 750kg caravn to it and do 600km in a day. It does all these things very well, it's quiet and comfortable. A big gripe (but I knew this before buying) is the rear door, an almighty pain in the butt compared to a hatch.

On 3 occasions it has flagged up a 'check engiine' fault and on one occasion it went into 'limp mode', a very unpleasant experience with the automatic transmission. On each occasion it was diagnosed as an injector fault, the fault code was cleared, 'test it and come back if it happens again'.

I also have a Corolla Verso, with the same engine but tweaked up to 177hp. I bought it new in 2006 and it now has 229000km. The only items of any note have been an EGR valve, a throttle body, and a starter motor.

From my experience, I don't know why this engine has a bad reputation.

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Thu 2 Nov 2017 09:40
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - madf

From my experience, I don't know why this engine has a bad reputation.

I assume these are the 2.0 liter engine. The 2.2 was full of design flaws and many were exchanged under warranty: new EGR valves, pistons, injection system etc. They had a habit of burning 1lter of oil per 500 miles after 50-70k miles , or carbonning up the engine..

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Thu 2 Nov 2017 10:42
Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV 4 diesel automatic - Laimonas

Verso having 177 hp must be 2.2.

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