2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Hi,

I have 2004 Ford Fiesta Finesse 3dr (86k miles, 12 month MOT, 1 previous owner). My baby is due in November so i want to exchange for 5dr car.

I want to trade in my fiesta with Mazda 3 (Only 1 owner from new)

www.murrayburnmotors.co.uk/used-mazda-3-broxburn-s...1

I have checked the MOT history ,it was consitstently clocked 16k every year (8*16k = 128k), it passed MOT all the years apart from last year.

I don't know much about cars, Is it worth buying petrol car with more than 128k milleage?

And also what is the best deal i can get from this car?

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - RobJP

That looks pretty decent. No reason why it can't go on for a few years yet.

Look at the basics - for example, the tyres. The one tyre that's been photographed is a Goodyear, so that indicates that the owner hasn't skimped on things - they could have fitted cheap chinese ditchfinders, but they've spent that bit extra. If the service history is similar, then there's no real reason not to buy it.

As to the best deal you can get - well, it all depends what the garage paid for it, and how long they've had it sitting around in stock.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Thanks Rob. I will check with the garage about the service history.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - TheGentlemanThug

The 1.6 is a chain-cam engine if I remember correctly so there's no cam belt to worry about, thankfully.

At this mileage, you're looking at potential clutch, flywheel and suspension issues, so check that the gear change is smooth and the clutch isn't slipping. Listen out for knocking noises from the suspension and check the wheels for kerb damage or rust. Rust on the bodywork was also apparently an issue on early cars. A good quality interior is always a prime indicator that the car has been looked after.

The 1.6 petrol engine isn't complicated, so it should be fairly trouble-free. It's just a bit gutless that's all.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
These are very good little family cars and there's no reason why it couldn't go on running for another 50,000 miles but for a little more money there's a few much lower mileage options near you.

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Your own car as a part exchange at this budget price range will be worth buttons so you'd be better selling it privately and trying for a discount for no trade in but don't expect much and don't pay much attention to promises about warranties, at this age they'll cover very little and don't take the dealers finance if you're borrowing, you can get much cheaper at the bank.

Look for isofix seats and don't buy anything without them! Child seats are not secure in belts. Be careful and take someone with you who knows what they're doing.









Edited by SLO76 on 22/08/2017 at 18:06

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Engineer Andy

Hi,

I have 2004 Ford Fiesta Finesse 3dr (86k miles, 12 month MOT, 1 previous owner). My baby is due in November so i want to exchange for 5dr car.

I want to trade in my fiesta with Mazda 3 (Only 1 owner from new)

www.murrayburnmotors.co.uk/used-mazda-3-broxburn-s...1

I have checked the MOT history ,it was consitstently clocked 16k every year (8*16k = 128k), it passed MOT all the years apart from last year.

I don't know much about cars, Is it worth buying petrol car with more than 128k milleage?

And also what is the best deal i can get from this car?

I also had a look at the MOT history, and all was well until this year, so I suspect the owner off-loaded it after getting all the failures (check that worn tyre was replaced if you can as it was only an 'advisory' item) repaired, but to be fair, none of the 'fail' items were previously 'advisories' and probably just wore out through high usage.

I world check to see the level of servicing it has had, as the manufacturers service interval is 12.5k miles or 1 year (whichever is the shorter), just in case the previous owner scrimped by having it looked at once a year, especially if done at a 'back alley' garage or themselves. The mileage is fine for that car (I have a Mazda3 1.6 petrol which is 2-3 years older, but admitedly has done half the miles - there's quite a few near me that look fine after similar miles to that one) as regards the engine IF kept up to date with the servicing, especially the engine oil (as its a chain-driven engine - mine doesn't use much oil though, even when I've done more miles in a year).

If you can get hold of the previous owner to do a more thorough check of the servicing and maintenance history, all the better. One thing that did slightly worry me on second glance is that as the car has consistently done high mileage, and thus SHOUL'VE been serviced more often than once a year, I would've expected one or two at least of the 'fail' items to have been picked up as potential problems at the previous service, whether by a main dealer (especially) or an independent.

I've had a couple of 'advisories' over my car's 11+ years (from new) of ownership, and they always were picked up by the mechanic (a different one to that doing the MOT - its a 'group' main dealership with other manufacturers sharing a separate MOT facility round the corner) at the service. Unfortunately for me, mine is serviced and MOTed on the time day (lower annual mileage) so I don't get the chance to rectify any problems before the test unless they are obvious to me (like the clucth change it needed last summer).

As SLO say,s, lot of decent one about if you're not sure - don't be pushed into getting a specific car, take your time to get a good'un. Best of luck.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Thanks for the detailed information Andy, much appreciated.

I have put up my car for £700 ( spent around £250 for MOT in August) on Gumtree, until now one guy offered me £400. I have rejcted the offer.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
£700 is a realistic price for it with a good Mot and in decent running order but you'll no doubt be plagued by idiots offering half this. Hold out and you should see £600 easy enough. Keep deleting and renewing the advert though as it will slip down on any search.
2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Thanks guys, last night I have managed to sold the car for £700 :-)

Now i am in hunt for the next car. I have found i20 in website below

www.guildauto.co.uk/used-cars/hyundai-i20-1-2-comf...4

There 2 owners from new and nearly 9months old. Last MOT suggests that the Fron breakpads and discs are worn.I am planning to view the car some time this week. Looks like a decent car and i am not sure about the history of the car. I read in the forums there are some clutch problems with these cars anything else i need to worry about.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
Straight away I can see that it's had the tailgate painted cheaply. You can spot it by the absence of the badges and also what looks like corrosion from one of the drains at the bottom of the rear window.

This is common with stock from small backstreet garages like this. They buy cars at auction that are in poor condition or crash damaged then cheaply repair them. The paintwork on this wee car will look terrible I need no time. I'd look elsewhere.
2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

You are a genius, i did not see the absence of the badges, Thanks a lot Slo76.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
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2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - balleballe

You can see the bad paint job, as pointed out.

At this age ask about rust. My Mazda 3 had severe rust issues which was the reason I got rid of it. Also the suspension components are likely to be shot.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

@SLO76, thans for the information, I have to wait until weekend to go and see the cars you suggested.

Any suggestioons on the below car

www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/mazda-3-1.6-ts-06reg-86k-m...3

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Engineer Andy

@SLO76, thans for the information, I have to wait until weekend to go and see the cars you suggested.

Any suggestioons on the below car

www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/mazda-3-1.6-ts-06reg-86k-m...3

I personally wouldn't go for it (SLO will be best for the technical standpoint) as recently its had a couple of MOT failures (and a gap when it could've been SORNed) for items that a responsible owner shouldn't be failing on or have advisories over more than one year (badly worn tyres and suspension/brakes). It looks a bit tatty (well used) inside, ok on the outside.

Besides, its only a few ££ more than you got for the Fiesta - I would go with SLO's suggested price range of about the £2k mark, especailly with this one needing new brake pads and possibly discs (not cheap, as I found out last year) soon. I would want to know a lot more about its service history given my reservations about its recent past and its annual mileages often above the manufacturer's 12.5k miles/1 year service interval.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76

@SLO76, thans for the information, I have to wait until weekend to go and see the cars you suggested.

Any suggestioons on the below car

www.gumtree.com/p/mazda/mazda-3-1.6-ts-06reg-86k-m...3

Low miles for the age and one owner is a big plus. No one keeps a bad car that long. But these do rust, it's the big weakness so you'd need to see it in the metal. I ran a 54 plate trade-in 1.6 for a while with 117k and it was trouble free, the owner who bought it from me is still reporting no problems 6mths later. Though I'd probably recommend spending more and getting something a bit younger though.
2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

This evening i went for the test drive of 2009 Mazda 3 Takara i was mentioning at the start of the Thread. The drive was quite good, it had full service history.

First 3 years from Arnold Clark and then each year Full service along with below fixes

28-05-12 40480 miles, hankook tyres - 2

25-11-13 76511 miles,

Bridgestone tyres - 3, Breakpads front - £44 ( i don't know this is just one or pair)

shock absorbers rear - 2

10-09-14 88903 miles full service

08-07-15 101897 miles full service

29-04-16 113742 miles brakepads rear - £44 ( i don't know this is just one or pair)

24-02-17 126587 miles front wishbones - 2, antiroll bar pins rear

hankook k406 tyres front - 2 . The last service cost him £650.

Disadvantages:

1) 6 months MOT

2) Clutch is not replaced

3) Rust at Rear Axle

4) Not fluent when changing gears from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3.

5) High miles around 130k

The trader is asking £1700, is it a good deal??

Edited by Rayudu on 29/08/2017 at 23:42

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Avant

'Fluent' is a good word for Mazda gearboxes, so if this one isn't there is a problem looming with either clutch or gearbox. And if you could see 'rust at rear axle' there's probably more that you can't see.

Any car at this budget level is going to have some snags, but I think you can find something a bit better. You're going in the right direction - Japanese / Korean and petrol-powered - but see if you can find something still with a service history but without anything quite as ominous as that wrong with it.

Add the petrol Ford Focus to your shortlist, the advantage of these being that there are lots around to choose from.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Thanks Avant. I would like to know experts opinion on choosing a car based on my below requirements.

- Right now my work place is quite close to my home ( 4 miles) = 40miles/week. We go for long drives twice in a month. My annual milleage with my old car is around 6000 miles.

- My budget is around 2k

- 5 door and need boot space for kid's stuff.

I just want to focus my search on certain car types otherwise i am all around the place.

I am thinkning of petrol versions of Ford Focus, Mazda3,Toyota Aurius, Honda Jazz, Hyundai i20, Seat Leon,Skoda Fabia any other cars will fit into my search criteria?

Is there any disadvantages of choosing Diesel cars with short journeys and occassional long drives?

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
"Is there any disadvantages of choosing Diesel cars with short journeys and occassional long drives?"

Don't even think about diesel on your budget. They're much more complex and much more prone to expensive problems as they age. Petrol is your only cost effective option here.
2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
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Disadvantages:

1) 6 months MOT: Nothing to worry about. Few dealers or private sellers will put a fresh Mot on if there's 6mths left.

2) Clutch is not replaced: The clutch should last the life of the car if well driven. Unless it's slipping or showing signs of wear then it's not something that gets replaced at a particular mileage or age. I flogged a Passat with 170,000 miles recently on its original clutch.

3) Rust at Rear Axle: All cars this age will have corrosion on suspension components. It might not look pretty but it may be solid enough. Without seeing it I can't tell.

4) Not fluent when changing gears from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3: Synchromesh on 2nd and 3rd gear could be worn or clutch isn't fully clearing. Likely with the heavy mileage to be the former. The gearchange should be smooth, crisp and fluent as you say. These are one of the best fwd gearboxes and shouldn't balk or resist changes. I'd leave this one well alone.

5) High miles around 130k: Yup, you can get something with far less for similar money. As a trade in a dealer would have paid around £500-£600 for this and received similar through the ring. The trader is asking for at least a grand in profit on a cheap end car which is far too much.

The trader is asking £1700, is it a good deal?? No, find a better car with less miles and don't rush!


Edited by SLO76 on 30/08/2017 at 01:04

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - Rayudu

Tomorrow I am planning to view the car below

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It had 3 owners and good MOT history, i am going to check the service history if available, any other suggestions?

Edited by Rayudu on 03/09/2017 at 00:14

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76
Ask to hear it start from cold. When you turn up first thing you do is lift the bonnet and put hand on top of engine to feel if there's any heat, if there is then you know they've started it because there's an issue on starting. On one of these it's likely to only be a duff battery but neglected cars can on very rare instances suffer from rattling timing chains.

Listen for a noisy thrust bearing as you change gear on the move (highly unlikely at this mileage) and make sure the clutch isn't slipping. From the discription it sounds like an elderly driver who shouldn't have been on the road so it's likely the clutch will have had a hard life and could easily have been burnt out already.

It should be ok mechanically at this mileage if it's been serviced every year but it'll be hard to sell on as the bodywork is in terrible condition and rust is likely to take hold especially on that rear wheel arch with the huge scrape.

They're unlikely to see many interested buyers (at least anyone who got close to it) so I'd be making a very cheeky offer. £1,400 tops and leave it with them and that's on the assumption the body isn't even worse in the metal. Remember if they've tried to trade this in or sell it to WBAC they'll have been offered £700-£800 tops.

Otherwise very robust and cheap to run little cars with plenty of space in them. I'd sooner spend more to get a tidy one with a few more miles even but if you just want a wee family workhorse these do make a lot of sense. Your fiesta was a much more entertaining car to drive however but that isn't as important as reliability at this money.

Edited by SLO76 on 03/09/2017 at 09:58

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - badbusdriver

My suggestion is the ford fusion. It is like a fiesta but a bit bigger inside and a bit taller. Your £2k budget will get you into a 2007/8 1.4 petrol with reasonable miles (up to 70k). We had one for 3 years and i still miss it. The new honda jazz we now have is the only car with a similar amount of interior space in relation to its physical size. In my view, a very under rated, very practical small car.

2009 Mazda 3 Takara - Suggestions on Trading Fiesta with Mazda 3 - SLO76

My suggestion is the ford fusion. It is like a fiesta but a bit bigger inside and a bit taller. Your £2k budget will get you into a 2007/8 1.4 petrol with reasonable miles (up to 70k). We had one for 3 years and i still miss it. The new honda jazz we now have is the only car with a similar amount of interior space in relation to its physical size. In my view, a very under rated, very practical small car.

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