X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

I am in saran, Orleans. So is car, but we are not together.

After no probs 600m run last week, and 300 to newhaven on 20 aug, got off ship 0500 21 aug at dieppe. No probs 150m autoroute cruise. Then heavy misfiring, white smoke, judders, loss of power. Got it to service area. Starts fine, idles fine but no power under load.

TBC on tempramental tablet.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Called UK breakdown (v good) but as prev pointed out only app contractors can recover.

Not surprisingly car ended up in contractors garage.

TBC due to tablet.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Prob diag as injector/s. Est cost for one (citroen) here is 450 est cost for jag one is 1500. Not a viable repair even if diag is correct.

Cost to repatriate car est 1500, not viable. Spoke to my UK Indy, not viable repair, time to throw car away.

Spoke to UK breakdown, suggested they save themselves lots of money, just repatriate me.

Any thoughts, please? Anybody know how to scrap a UK car in France? I have v5 etc here with me.

Thanks

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

P.S. time to put new Dacia plan into effect. Is new reg 1 Sept or 1 Oct?

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - gordonbennet

I have no idea about scrapping a car there, must be worth a few quid to someone.

Agree it's probably just as well to cut your losses and wave cheerio to the car.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - focussed

"Any thoughts, please? Anybody know how to scrap a UK car in France? I have v5 etc here with me"

This is the official line from immatriculation.ants.gouv.fr/Questions-frequentes/...e

(Translated partly by me and partly by google)

The procedure for scrapping a car, van, or 3-wheel motorbike is as follows, updated 31 March 2011:

Take the vehicle to a demolisher (démolisseur) or crusher (broyeur) authorised by the prefecture. They must accept the vehicle at no cost, although they can charge for transporting the car if you ask them to collect it.

They must give you a certificat de destruction on receipt of the car.

I will try to look up your nearest scrappy on the french yellow pages.

It is the responsibility of the demolisher or crusher to de-pollute the car, including the various liquids in the car at no cost for the car owner.

The foreign registration certificate (V5) is delivered by the demolisher (scrappy) to the prefecture (local government department) with which he is approved.

The prefecture will forward the document (with a copy of the certificate of destruction) to the administrative authority (DVLA) of the country which issued the registration document.

However - you may have problems finding a scrappy that is open - Why? Because it's August and France kind of shuts down and clears off on holiday in August.

Another tip - get photcopies of everything including your V5 and send one copy to the DVLA and tell them what has happened - prefectures are notorious for not following the official procedures so the paperwork may not get through (because it's August as well!)

Bon Courage!

Edited by focussed on 21/08/2017 at 23:12

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Pls. This tablet may be going out of an ibis window anytime soon. The perfect end to a perfect day, not.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Cheers, gb. Always good to talk to a sane person when in difficult circs !

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Vitesse6

I scrapped a car in France. The breakdown service arranged a recovery truck and I filled in the necessary forms to transfer ownership to the recovery company, writing clearly on the forms "pour destruction"

Back in UK filled in V5 and sent it in as a permanent export. Tax refunded, no problems.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

That's helpful, thanks.

This garage is also a depanage, a breakdown firm.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Vitesse6

I can't remember the exact form you need, but its the one you use when you sell a car in France. I am sure the depannage firm will have them, if not the local Marie should have them. You will need 3 copies.

I don't know if the prefecture sent anything to DVLA but I sent the V5 in with a copy of the French form and all was fine.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Brit_in_Germany

Could it be something simple such as a loose/perished air pipe?

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Thanks for thought. Top of engine under plastic cover is wet with diesel. Sump oil level is about 1 inch above max unfortunately garage guys partially selective lack of English, my partial lack of French, and breakdown insurance guys apparent complete lack of knowledge of anything mechanical is not helping. He said oh, mechanic said it might need a new engine. Is that a big job? This does not help.

Th, when my Indy says time to jetter it as we say in france, I think he's right.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - focussed

Your nearest scrappy:-

27 rue gare 45140 Ingre

www.slgrecycling.fr/ phone 02 38 88 38 54

About 6 km from where you are in Saran

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - pd

The injectors on these are actually partially inside the cam cover so I can't see why a failure of one would mean diesel everywhere.

They are viable to fix in the UK - you can get them recondition for under £100, they take 3 minutes to fit and it is rare for them to all go at once.

Doesn't sound the right diagnosis to me. When these go the early signs are usually poor cold starting and/or limp mode / cutting out under load.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Smileyman

P.S. time to put new Dacia plan into effect. Is new reg 1 Sept or 1 Oct?

1st September

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - pd

Incidentally, check the turbo pipes as well. Failure of the main turbo feed pipe is very common on these but will usually give black smoke. This will give the idling OK but no power under loads symptoms though.

Could also be the turbo I suppose. Although an X-Type diesel may not be a common car in France a Mondeo TDCi is and they're the same is so someone should know what they're looking at.

Edited by pd on 21/08/2017 at 23:59

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Avant

Perhaps worth one last throw of the dice in view of PD's comments?

If you can get a sensible diagnosis from a garagiste who understands Ford engines, you could have another word with your indy in the UK.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Many thanks for all the replies and info.

No sign so far of this guy plugging anything in to look for fault codes etc. When looking at the engine, he checked the tightness of the injectors. One, on the front row, he was able to tighten apparently easily, about one eighth to a quarter of a turn.

The symptoms were similar to when a turbo boost pipe at bottom of engine somewhere came off a year or more ago.

I believe that the breakdown assistance people told me yesterday that I could get a second opinion. I will talk to them about that this morning.

Thanks again.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Again, many thanks for replies.

I spoke to my brilliant UK breakdown people and asked for second opinion. Local Ford people said they will not touch jags, local jag people said there was a two week delay to start diagnostics work. Frack it, said my people, we'll repatriate car.

Went to garage this morning. Pierre was not happy. I paid the 85 Euro diagnostic charge. Bosch diagnostic report says no errors, no memory of faults. That was helpful. See, he said, no electric problems, it's mechanical.

Breakdown people are arranging recovery to my Indy. I am currently staying at their expense in grand hotel, central Orleans. I confess that I spent the afternoon drinking cold beer in central plaza and watching women in summer frocks.

Breakdown have organised taxi for me at 0800 to collect hire car, drive to caen, foot passenger over and hire car home. My car will follow to my Indy asap.

Thanks again for all replies. Will update when Indy has looked at car etc.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - SLO76
"Breakdown people are arranging recovery to my Indy. I am currently staying at their expense in grand hotel, central Orleans. I confess that I spent the afternoon drinking cold beer in central plaza and watching women in summer frocks."

Who is your breakdown cover with? Sounds like they've done well by you.

Edited by SLO76 on 22/08/2017 at 20:09

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - oldroverboy.

I don't know about joe, but I am with start rescue who would do the same. the actual limit for costs is quite high...

www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/documents/86...f

Five Star cover must be indicated on the policy schedule. In addition to the cover provided with Four Star, your vehicle will be covered at your registered home address or within a one-mile radius of your home address. Cover extends to service being provided in the event of you being unable to continue your journey due to illness or injury, or if the vehicle registered under your name within the Policy Schedule, is rendered immobile due to theft or vandalism. In the event of illness, injury, theft or vandalism claims, alternative transport is provided up to the value of £1,000 on a pay and claim basis.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 22/08/2017 at 20:26

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

My cover is with narpo ((nat assoc of retd police officers) and tbh i cannot fault them

. The firm they use is, I think, national firm used by mb etc.

As an example, I have told t hem I am happy to get home by bus. No, they said, we will use rental car or fly you.

I was impressed when they said Franck it to Pierre, we will send car home and no, you won't be the one sending it.

Will update Inc.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

An updtae for those interested. (those who aren't can scroll on by). It may be a cautinary time for others.

Overall, the UK recovery people have benn excellent - their Euro partners (IMA) less so.

Yesterday Weds 23/8 started fine. Taxi arrived on time, was pre-paid, etc. Arrrived at Eurocar car rental 0815. They had no record of booking/pre-payment but searched e-mails and car was huuriedly found, still wet from washing. I asked guy to programme satnav for destination where car had to be handed in (Eurocar agency, Ferry Terminal, Ouistreham/Caen and to set it for 'fastest'. All done, and satnav arrival time was about 1350. (about 300 km).

I followed satnav, which took me to Oustreham centre (le mairie) Used initiative and went to ferry terminal (gare maritime). Negotiated car parks, went into terminal looking for Eurocar desk. There isn't one. Asked around, and a young lady said she thought that maybe Ibis hotel across road from ferry terminal could help. Negotiated car park exit, went to hotel, yes they would accept car. (No signs, no desk, etc.) Walked back to terminal with luggage, presented myself at Brittany Ferries desk to check in. Yes we have a booking, they said, but on Wednesdays the ferry departs at 1400 (there it is, leaving the harbour) and anyway you must check in by 1315. Other days it leaves at 1630.

Next ferry was 2300 no cabins available, - called UK recovery people who offered hotel overnight but I told them I'd rather get back to UK. So I did. Seems a bit poor to me that IMA couldn't check ferry times - there was no way I could have made Orleans to Ouistreham in time (I beat satnav time as it was).

So I waited for 2300 ferry, arriving 0645 UK time. IMA organised a hire car for me in Portsmouth, depot opens 0900, so we agreed a taxi from Portsmouth ferry terminal at 0845.

Enterprise car hire called me direct to confirm (ecellent service) and said they open at 0800. So I called IMA, reorgaised taxi for 0745, confirmed by text. All going well.

At 0800 taxi had not arrived - driver called me and siad 'I am here, where are you?'. 'Here, I said outside the Portsmouth Ferry Terminal'. I am at the Isle of Wight Ferry Termina, he said, where they told me to go. WTF would IMA, who had booked me on a ferry from France tell a taxi to collect me from the IOW ferry?

Got to Enterprise car hire depot, was expected, good service. When I dropped car at local depot (7 miles) they offered to drive me home gratis but I had lift arranged.

Now I need to sort out some stuff - breakdown will refund me the 170 euro for recovery from autoroute. Must check my general travel insurance re unused ferry/car return. TBH, I am a bit embarassed to make a claim because they have spent so much (far more than my annual premium, about £70.)

Poitive things from this experience:

1. Luckily, I am on my own so no no dependents to worry about.

2. If necessary I can afford to throw the jag away.

3. Yesterday in France I had a Clio Tce hire car, today I had a basic Clio. These are the engines in the Dacias, I think, so I have had a chance to compare them (both a bit different from the jag).

4. Met a family on the ferry last night. 6 including 4 children. Had gone over with their volvo + caravan combo for a few days. Car broke down (sounded like turbo problem) but garage cannot start work on car for 3 weeks. Car and caravan stuck in France pending recovery. Time scale (like mine) a fortnight minimum.

A cautionary tale, perhaps, for those of us who blithely take a car abroad. Even with the best insurance available, things can go dreadfully wrong.

If you've made it this far, thanks for reading.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - gordonbennet

Welcome back, what a palarva, thank goodness you had decent breakdown cover.

I must make a point of asking what breakdown company was the client, my nephew used to drive a 7/8 car transporter over to France and neighbouring countries recovering and repatriating damaged and broken down UK cars, so no waiting for weeks for Claude to do the Gallic version of sucking his teeth and pronouncing expensive doom.

quote ''(both a bit different from the jag)''. sounds to me like second thoughts now you've tried the engines?

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Welcome back, what a palarva, thank goodness you had decent breakdown cover.

I must make a point of asking what breakdown company was the client, my nephew used to drive a 7/8 car transporter over to France and neighbouring countries recovering and repatriating damaged and broken down UK cars, so no waiting for weeks for Claude to do the Gallic version of sucking his teeth and pronouncing expensive doom.

quote ''(both a bit different from the jag)''. sounds to me like second thoughts now you've tried the engines?

Thanks, GB.

My understanding from my UK insurer (not sure whether it will be IMA or not - if it is stand by for miscommunications) have sent out a request for quotes for recovery of the jag and that this will depend on other jobs/part loads in the area, etc. Because my car is fairly central (Orleans) it may not take too long. I understand that the car will come back on a transporter with others, not on a single flatbed (and I can't blame them for that).

Interestingly or not, Pierre at one point apparently told IMA that I had authorised him to do the repair work. I was very clear with my UK people and IMA that I had not and taht my agreement was limited to 65 euro plus tax for the (non) diagnostic work he had 'carried out'.

I was not supposed to hear or understand this, but when IMA were arranging a taxi rom his garage to the hotel he strongly suggested they use a taxi firm local to him. They didn't. Also, in retrospect, I built up a bit of a rapport with the young guy who did the recovery from the autoroute. In other time at the garage, he was around a lot but seemed to be avoiding me. I may be being over cynical here.

Pierre went to great lengths (writing in the dust on the back window of a C£ he was working on) that an injector for a C£ was 450 euro, for my car it would be 1500. How on earth do ordinary French people afford motoring if this is so?

Re. engines - I enjoy the effortless power delivery of the x type, old as it is. But unless I go for another turbo diesel (doesn't make sense) or a big petrol (doesn't make sense and can't afford) I think going back to a fairly minimal power petrol is the way for me to go. These clios were happy at 70 ish, albeit at 3500 rpm as opposed to 2000 in the jag. But most of the time I am on my own in the car so can go smaller, most runs are local, and for £100 or so a month (to be sorted out, maybe clear that and buy it outright) I can run a car under warranty which will do what I want. I used to be happy with a M1000 and various cheap crap I had after that. I don't need much now and I have no interest in badges or electrical stuff I don't know how to work. I am considering ...

Interestingly (or not) the clio I had in France was a Tce (turbo) but the one today was a basic. The TCe was less smooth, I thought, because the yurbo band was narrow and a bit unpredictable, The basic was less punchy but surpringly willing from low revs and would probably do the job for me (at £800 less). I remember the days when if you were 4 up and luggage ou expected the car (and you) would have to work harder.

Edited by joegrundy on 24/08/2017 at 21:36

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Avant

Some of us have vicariously got rather fond of your valiant old Jaguar: there a bit of that hopes that it's nothing too expensive.

But if it really is curtains, and you need something smaller and newer, I suspect you'd find a newish Fiesta more fun to drive than a new Dacia - it depends of course on your priorities, and your budget.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Some of us have vicariously got rather fond of your valiant old Jaguar: there a bit of that hopes that it's nothing too expensive.

But if it really is curtains, and you need something smaller and newer, I suspect you'd find a newish Fiesta more fun to drive than a new Dacia - it depends of course on your priorities, and your budget.

Thanks for the comment - I bought her 4 years ago sight unseen on a totally unwise whim for £2700 - but the 40,000 miles I've done since have worked out, I think, well. Thanks to my sensible indy.

If it's not viable to repair I'd be best to gor for something like an Avensis, but I;m a bit reluctant.

In 4 years I collect my state pension. That's worth about 400 a month after tax and I could afford to spend all or most of that on a car, but I wouldn't want to. I can't think of a car I'd want that much.

Dacia appeals because it'sbrand new, anti-badge, a bit basic (but not as basic as some of the cars I've owned, by a long way) and trouble-free motoring. After the HJ review on the 1.2 turbo Duster (he said he'd give it 6 stars if he could) I'm considering one of those!

I did also look at the discount dealers and saw a Suzuki Baleno basic 1.2 at about 8.800 which appealed.

PS. Looking at the Dacia Sandero, I think it's a better car on the spec. More rooom, DAB radio and phone thingy, a/c, and the package for about £7500.

Edited by joegrundy on 24/08/2017 at 22:11

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - John F

I would be interested to know what the diesel experts think about my suggestion above of welding the duff injector closed and driving carefully home on three cylinders. What,if any, collateral damage might one expect?

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - oldroverboy.

I would be interested to know what the diesel experts think about my suggestion above of welding the duff injector closed and driving carefully home on three cylinders. What,if any, collateral damage might one expect?

Making it a b****** of a job to get it out after...

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - galileo

I would be interested to know what the diesel experts think about my suggestion above of welding the duff injector closed and driving carefully home on three cylinders. What,if any, collateral damage might one expect?

Making it a b****** of a job to get it out after...

I think John F suggested welding the injector nozzle tip closed, not welding the injector in.

I imagine the effect will be similar to a petrol engine with a spark plug not firing, i.e. lumpy running and reduced power.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - gordonbennet

Instead of welding the injector shut it may be easier to simply diconnect the connector plug for that injector, and if the injector had jammed or bunged up partially or fully open then to seal off the injector pipe if it can be got at.

The fuel pressures involved i'd definately want the bonnet closed when test running the engine after interfering in any way.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - pd

If the injector has "jammed open" it wouldn't start as you would get so much leak back off the injector it would never build enough pressure on the fuel rail to tell the ECU to fire up.

Just pulling the electrical connector off the injector will stop it firing.

I am still slightly sceptical it is injectors anyway - they usually wear over a peroid of time so you notice poor running well before it packs up.

A quick check on ebay shows lots of remanufacrtured injectors available for these at under £100 each.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

A bit of an update on this. Apologies if the thread's getting a bit long.

Still waiting for car to be brought home from its extended holiday - could be another couple of weeks. In the meantime I am enjoying(?) the experience of not having a car, walking to shops, using bus pass, etc.. Helps to put life in perspective and increases empathy fot those in our society who don't have a car and for whom a visit to the supermarket - or anywhere else - is more complicated. No point eyeing up those 'multipack bargains' if you can't physically carry them home.

As seems to often happen, when one experiences something one becomes aware of others with the same experience. And so it has been. I have encountered people who despite preventive measures (e.g. servicing and getting problems fixed) have had breakdowns but were covered by rescue policies, people who seemed to treat rescue policies as an alternative to servicing, etc., and one poor dap who had 'chanced it' and whose car now sits somewhere in France 'needing a new engine'.

Had a chat to my indy - prepared him for Jag being delivered there (he knows it well) - and described symptoms. Initial (hypothetical) diagnosis was turbo pipes or something related, a couple of hundred quid job max. If it is injector(s) - sounded unlikely - recon for £100 or so (as previously helpfully noted in this thread). In any case, the plan is to diagnose current problem, cost a repair, check car over as fully as possible to try to establish whether its worth fixing and keeping. I feel a bit better for that.

In the meantime, I've been eyeing the scrappage schemes and contemplating alternatives. Swayed as I was by HJ review of the new Picanto (£7500) and his reference to 60s Coopers, a Dacia (no scrappage sceme so far) looks favourite if needs must.

As someone once said - 'if you have been, thanks for listening'.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - MGspannerman
"If you have been, thanks for listening"

It was John Ebden, former director of the London Planetarium. He used to do short, topical talks on Radio 4. The line was his sign off.
X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Thanks for the John Ebdon reference - will follow that up.

"I must make a point of asking what breakdown company was the client, my nephew used to drive a 7/8 car transporter over to France and neighbouring countries recovering and repatriating damaged and broken down UK cars, so no waiting for weeks for Claude to do the Gallic version of sucking his teeth and pronouncing expensive doom."

Turns out NARPO use call-assist, which as I understand it, are used by premium marques for their breakdown assistance. Can't fault them for their excellent service (just sent an email and scans today and waiting for reimbursement of cost of recovery off autoroute)..

They in turn use IMA (Internationalle Mutuelle Assistance) for breakdowns on the continent, and any problems I had were down to them, or more accurately, miscommunications with them (e.g. I had allegedly authorised Pierre to carry out repairs, or the Portsmouth International Ferry Terminal v. IOW Ferry Terminal issues).

But what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, as someone else once said, or at least gives us a laugh in retrospect.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

What may be the final update:

Car was delivered to my indy yesterday (Thursday) lunchtime. Call from him at 1300 today - car ready for collection.

Turbo pipe had become detached. End tidied up and reattached. Bill £81 for 1.5 hours labour inc VAT. No parts required.

I shudder to think what this 'rescue' cost the breakdown insurer, when it could have been dealt with there and then.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - csgmart

A happy end to an interesrting story. Glad you got it fixed.

I re-read this thread and see that you had already guessed it was the same fault as you had previously.

Your car fights on to live on. Good luck.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - gordonbennet

That's great news, very pleased for you.

Hopefully Claude will go back to wearing a beret and stripey jumper whilst riding a bicycle around with a string of onions around his neck, which presumably is what he was doing the week before he decided to become a mechanic on the day lucifer directed you to his door.

This forum really does need a face palm icon for people like Claude the Mechanic.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/09/2017 at 17:27

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - catsdad
I love it when we get the end of a story. So many threads peter (pierre?) out. Good to see the Jag soldier on.
X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - brum

And so, even in la belle France we have mechanics who are either totally incompetent or prepared to fleece customers, or both. Incapable of doing a simple visual inspection......

Maybe Pierre saw the opporunity to pick up a "scrapped" jag for centimes....

I wonder how many other cars are scrapped over a silly little thing like a pipe fallen off.

Or how many millions are screwed out of desperate customers who trust a mechanic.

Edited by brum on 08/09/2017 at 17:56

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Avant

"Maybe Pierre saw the opportunity to pick up a "scrapped" jag for centimes...."

I should think that's exactly what he was hoping for. And an awful lot of Brits, particularly the majority with non-existent French, would have fallen for it. But not Joe - congratulations, and I'm sure we all hope that the Jag has plenty more life in it.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - kiss (keep it simple)

Not all french mechanics are blessed with the diagnostic skills of Clouseau. A few years ago a family friend had driven with us to the Alps on a ski holiday. His Jeep had started to play up with engine check light on etc. Off to the nearest dealer in Cluses which diagnosed a damaged turbo pipe and threw in a software update for good measure. One very relieved friend.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Happy Blue!

Reminds me of the time many years ago when I had a Saab 9000 LPT.

Visiting the in-laws, the car was untouched for a couple of days. Starting it to come home it made a hell of racket. Called the AA. The patrol man came, opened the bonnet and we both looked in. He had no clue and was surprised that the car had a turbo. I didn't give up as the car had driven perfectly down to the in-laws. I asked him for a socket set and tightened up three bolts on the turbo. All fixed.

The engine had had the head off the week before to replace the timing chain and engine mounts under warranty. I guessed that not every bolt had been properly torqued up.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - oldroverboy.

I am sure focussed can comment, try isiting a french scrapyard..

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Final post on this story.

Have received reimbursement from Call Assist of the £140 something tow-off charge off the autoroute. No drama, sent e-mail with scan of invoice.

Highly recommend the Call Assist product.

Have not reported back to them what the problem was, or how easily and cheaply it was fixed.

Only thing I now ask myself - should I have got under the car and fixed it myself, or did I give up too easily in my current cocc***ed state of being covered by breakdown insurance?

On a related matter, my local Tesco have an 'end of summer' sale. I bought a couple of 'beach mats' at 43p each which are ideal for putting down when under a car is neceaasry.

Car is running as well as ever. I was pleased to note that nothing was missing when it got home, even down to the extra-strong mints in the cup holder.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - Brit_in_Germany

It did sound like a problem with the air supply so a check might have been less stressful.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Yes, absolutely. And I carry in the car quite a bit of stuff to deal with various situations, including a LED amber beacon, tools, a hi-vis rainsuitt, etc.

But, on this occasion, (maybe I was tired, having come off a night ferry - there's a subject to discuss) I succumbed to the 'f**kit let the breakdown take care of it' approach.

Mea culpa, perhaps. BUT, I stll come back to the vulnerability I felt dealing with this situation. And I am not a naturally vulnerable sort of bloke - I am a retired Old Bill.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - oldroverboy.

Car is running as well as ever. I was pleased to note that nothing was missing when it got home, even down to the extra-strong mints in the cup holder.

Once i collected my car from the "official meet and greet" at gatwick and the driver had left his debit card and shopping in the car. I wasn't going to drive to gatwick after i got home, so card went into the bank, which was the same as mine, and shopping into the fridge.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - focussed

I am sure focussed can comment, try isiting a french scrapyard..

Scrapyards i don't know about, but I shall be visiting one shortly to get rid of the collection of accumulated old batteries and massive 1950's mains wiring from our old barn that used to be a sawmill.

I don't know that French garages or their garagistes are any better or worse than in the UK.

My only experience of a french garage operation was a minor body repair after a young female clipped the rear bumper of our Civic when it was parked. It was a large Renault dealer's bodyshop with all the usual bells and whistles. bake oven etc.

The resulting repair wasn't world-class with a lot of clear coat overspray left on adjacent panels, as I discovered at a later date.

I can say that locally to me there are a couple of non-french garage operations that are doing well and serve an increasing clientele of french locals as well as expat brits.

One is a Land Rover specialist and the other is an ex-channel islands motor engineer who services and diagnoses any make.

The usual small french garage out in the sticks is a bit like the local blacksmith used to be like in the UK 50 years or more years ago, he'll service your car, mower, tractor, chainsaw etc and weld up your ploughshare or harrow as well.

X type 2.0d 04 173k - Fracked in France - joegrundy

Sorry, I had promised that my posts on this saga were over....

But - I was just filing away my paperwork on the episode and came across the 'diagnostic report' from Pirate Pierre the mechanique for which I paid 81.60 euros.

It's headed Bosch ESI (tronic) version 2016/2.2.00.002

It found no recorded faults.

Sadly, the car is shown as a 2.2 diesel (and all sorts of numbers) 09/2005 -11/2009.

Mine is a 2004 2.0d.

It could have been worse.

 

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