High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

Hi all,

I do about 20,000 miles a year. I work for myself, IT related, and I'm looking for my next car. My '07 BMW 525d 3.0 touring has done 171k and has cost me a lot of money in the last year, with new dual mass flywheel, clutch & crankshaft pulley. It had a replacement DPF at 120k a couple of years ago. I bought it 5 yrs ago with 85k on the clock. I love the car, and it still goes like a train (300 miles yesterday) and returns about 38mpg. It is fast, comfortable, practical and drives like a dream. I'm looking for another used car, but am wary of buying a diesel which is about 5 yrs old and facing big bills, yet my mileage points to a diesel as the logical choice. I would like a big estate car which drives well, though not wedded to BMW, though it has to be said, once you're used to iDrive, and you try another car (Volvo V60, Jeep Renegade) and realise how dreadful their user interfaces are.....Anyway, what might I consider that is reasonably quick, won't do terrible MPG, is at least as big as the Beemer and feels good to drive? Is it diesel, then wait for the inevitable bills, or petrol and take the hit over time at the pumps?

The car spends 6 weeks a year abroad in Italy with my wife and family, so must be good for long-distance continental driving too.

Cheers - Philip

Edited by pint6x on 15/06/2017 at 21:55

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - SLO76
Hello Philip.
You forgot the most important piece of information... your budget?
High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

Sorry - yes - probably about 10-12k. I paid £10,500 for the Beemer in 2012 with 85k on the clock.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - SLO76
This is a challenging one. Buying a used example (for the price of a basic new Fiesta or Polo) of a highly complex car which was the guts of £50k new is a recipe for disaster. Running costs (if you want to maintain it correctly) will be in line with that new price tag. It'll also have a heavy mileage and will be entering the danger zone where hugely costly repairs are looming.

I would tend to steer clear of used diesels but in the case of larger execs, MPV's and SUV's there's really little alternative. If it was my choice I'd be looking for a nearly new mass market family car like a petrol Toyota Avensis or Mazda 6 but I get the feeling you wouldn't be happy with the performance of either compared to the old BM?

Your budget simply isn't enough to get a good 6cyl diesel F11 5 series estate with only cars approaching 100k mileages within range so you're again likely to encounter regular big bills. The 520d is acceptable with around 190bhp but these engines have a history of timing chain issues at higher mileages so I'd be wary.

Personally I'd keep what you've got and save more money to give yourself a budget of £15-£18k before even thinking about buying such a car. You'd likely be jumping out of the pot and into the fire with another high mileage exec you don't know. This is an example of when you should beg, borrow or steal to get the best example you can afford.



High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

Thanks for your reply. That fits in with my thinking - I'm not going to get rid of the Beemer, so long as it's still doing the miles. The only thing I was warned about was possibly the turbo giving up, but it has always been serviced when needed, always by the same BMW specialist, owned by two ex-BMW mechanics. They say my car is a good 'un. Given that it's worth no more than £2,500, it's worth more to me to keep driving until something horribly expensive goes wrong.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - RobJP

I have to agree with you regarding the iDrive compared to other makes. I was a passenger in a Jag XE the other week, and found the interface horribly clunky. Even when sat, parked up, it was terrible to use.

Now, a bit smaller than your 5, but the current model 3 series touring is very good. I've had mine 3.5 years now, and I'm normally a serial car changer. That should tell you how good it is.

Failing which, the last model (F60 / F61) 5 series has just gone out of production. So a few pre-reg cars for sale at huge discounts. The 530d with the 8 speed ZF autobox will return a real 50+mpg on a motorway run (not available with a manual box), the 520d not much better on economy due to having to work harder.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

Good shout on the 3 series, my children have grown up and only one still at home, however I do carry a lot of music gear round for a band, and have got dogs too.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - JEREMYH

Yo used two words work and family

I would say a VW T5

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

Er - no.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - JEREMYH

but with a T5 you could get a surf board grow your hair long wear a salt rock t shirt and walk around all day saying "hot dang thang"

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

I wish! Sadly, at 54 years of age with two grandchildren, I fear my 'cool dude' days are probably behind me!

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - RichardW

Given that you've forked out for most of the expensive bits; I'd just keep the Beemer till it dies next time!

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - sandy56

FOr that usage 2litre Mondeo diesel estate would be a reasonable choice, for the money. ALternative is a PCP deal for a new or newish BMW.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

I like the Mondeo estate - also been thinking about the Mazda 6 or possibly wait and see what the new Vauxhall Insignia Sports Tourer is like. A VW Golf R was another thought - serious performance, though speed-dial for Kwikfit needed.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - Nobby Clark

Keep your current car until it dies as you've spent out on it??

Edited by Nobby Clark on 17/06/2017 at 21:03

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - Avant

Does it have to be an automatic? My last car was a Skoda Octavia vRS with the petrol 2.0 TSI engine (as in the Golf GTI) which had terrific performance but easily gave 40 mpg on a long run (about 34 in town). Simpler infotainment system than iDrive, but effective, and much better than the one in my current Volvo V60.

This was a manual; I had a similar vRS with DSG before which was fine although not as lively, and I couldn't in all conscience recommend you to buy a car with DSG which is over 3 years old.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - Happy Blue!

For me, this would means a Mercedes E-Class (220/250/350CDi - take your pick). I have just driven 550 miles over 24 hours in my E350CDi estate at a true 40mpg and cruising at about 75mph most of the time. An E22CDi would do probably 45mpg. A comfortable cruiser. Plenty for sale ex-lease. For £18,000 you can buy them with less than 40,000 miles and about four years old.

Smaller car (C-class) means lower prices.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

The Mercs are a serious consideration, though they're nearly always auto-boxes and I prefer manual.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

No it doesn't have to be an auto - my Beemer is a rare manual - rare because the 3-litre lump is almost always specced with the auto box. I prefer manual.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - Paul Robinson

I haven't been in the back room for some time, but I'm surprised nobody has already said - you need a Subaru Legacy!

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - RobJP

I haven't been in the back room for some time, but I'm surprised nobody has already said - you need a Subaru Legacy!

Problem with the Legacy is that they have had some problems with their diesels, and a petrol one is certainly not economical.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - Paul Robinson

Oh yes, would have to be petrol - but he's only getting 38 mpg at the moment on derv, so extra fuel costs will not be major.

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - SLO76
Legacy is a favourite of mine too in petrol form but I think the OP wants the urge of that big 6cyl turbo diesel and the Legacy doesn't really deliver here unless you bite the huge tax bill and go for the 3.0 6cyl petrol which is a belter of a car. A cheap pre 06 (before big tax) example would be a lovely big wagon, in fact that's got me thinking, I could use a cheap estate for our smelly mutt.
High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - pint6x

I like the Legacy, though I think I'd struggle to get more than 20-25mpg. They have a reputation for being very thirsty. They made a 3.0 Type B or was it a 3.5 litre - dunno, but it went like a stabbed rat while looking like Farmer Giles' special - a real Q car.

Edited by pint6x on 17/06/2017 at 18:01

High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - daveyK_UK
2 year old Toyota avensis estate 1.8 petrol

3 years warranty left, ultra reliable, over 40mpg on a motorway run, big boot, adequate performance
High mileage driver looking for next (used) car - gordonbennet

arcI like the Legacy, though I think I'd struggle to get more than 20-25mpg. They have a reputation for being very thirsty. They made a 3.0 Type B or was it a 3.5 litre - dunno, but it went like a stabbed rat while looking like Farmer Giles' special - a real Q car.

Flashlube is a must with them, but they do run well on LPG if that might be food for thought.

SWMBO has a 52 plate H6 Outback (previous model) that we had converted to LPG, it hasn't missed a beat in just over three years, when it's done it's time and is beyond saving, SWMBO wants another, though we may try a later 2.5 model to see if it's powerful enough for her (as it is we won't go newer than March 06 due to top rate VED on the 6 cyl engine) ...LPG just under half the price of petrol and we have never had a problem finding well priced convenient filling points.

It isn't just the performance (later models are faster) it's the fantastic grip in all weathers that enables rapid but safe progress in poor conditions that 2wd vehicles can't match.

 

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