Driving in Germany and Austria - oldroverboy.

Just had a few weeks between the two, Nuremberg and the Salzburg and Linz, and we both remarked how pedestrians, cyclists and drivers were really good at obeying the road junction, traffic lights and pedestrian crossings, Nice to see!

Driving in Germany and Austria - frankly

Apparently the complete opposite to driving in France!

:-/

Driving in Germany and Austria - RT

Just had a few weeks between the two, Nuremberg and the Salzburg and Linz, and we both remarked how pedestrians, cyclists and drivers were really good at obeying the road junction, traffic lights and pedestrian crossings, Nice to see!

Isn't that the same long-standing Prussian tradition of discipline that caused a couple of conflicts last century - good to hear it being used for good, not evil - and something we (nationally) could learn from.

Driving in Germany and Austria - daveyjp
If its still on iplayer have a Watch of last week's Paul Hollywood on Cars where he was in Germany.

There's an understanding that every car is part of the problem when there are queues, but by working together the problem is overcome. The concept of zip merging is engrained in every driver as they know all drivers benefit from the technique.

In the UK when lanes merge we go into space protection mode and woe betide anyone who has the nerve to try and get in front of me.
Driving in Germany and Austria - Mike H
If its still on iplayer have a Watch of last week's Paul Hollywood on Cars where he was in Germany. There's an understanding that every car is part of the problem when there are queues, but by working together the problem is overcome. The concept of zip merging is engrained in every driver as they know all drivers benefit from the technique. In the UK when lanes merge we go into space protection mode and woe betide anyone who has the nerve to try and get in front of me.

Zip merging is enshrined in law in Austria.

It's not all good once you get off the autobahns in Austria. The Austrians like to make progress. Dangerous overtaking manoeuvres are an everyday occurrence, and something to be aware of when driving here.

Edited by Mike H on 12/06/2017 at 09:54

Driving in Germany and Austria - Brit_in_Germany

A combination of "jay walking" being illegal, the in-grained culture of obeying the law and to a lesser extent, effective policing.

Driving in Germany and Austria - ExA35Owner

I suspect that the prevalence of two-lane Autobahnen has encouraged better lane discipline: people move out of lanes 2 (and 3) much more readily than in UK to let faster traffic through. The other major rule improving traffic flow is the overtaking ban on HGVs at peak time.

Driving in Germany and Austria - Smileyman

The other major rule improving traffic flow is the overtaking ban on HGVs at peak time.

That would be a good idea for the UK to adopt ...

Driving in Germany and Austria - John F

The other major rule improving traffic flow is the overtaking ban on HGVs at peak time.

That would be a good idea for the UK to adopt ...

It was adopted on parts of the A14 - with excellent results.

In comparison, driving on the USA 2 lane dual carriageway i-states is much more relaxing than on our dual carriageways/motorways for two reasons.

Firstly, everything, including even heavy semis with an additional trailer, goes at virtually the same speed - around an indicated 70-75 on the ubiquitous 65mph limit -up to 75 in remoter states. (imagine that, gb!). There are no slowcoaches dawdling at 60mph to save tuppenceha'pny. Indeed, around cities many have minimum speed limits of 40mph.

Secondly, although it's etiquette for slower traffic to stay in the inner lane(s), overtaking is allowed in any lane. It really is about time we adopted this as it makes for a much pleasanter driving experience. There is no concept of 'cutting up' and at busy times all lanes are occupied resulting in greater throughput.

 

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