Subaru lawnmowers - hillman

No, I'm not joking. SWMBO pointed out at the local garden centre that one of the Ryobi lawn mowers had a 175cc Subaru engine. I know that Honda do small engines but when did Subaru start doing them ?.

Subaru lawnmowers - Avant

Presumably not a flat-four.....

Subaru lawnmowers - corax

www.subarupower.com/subaru-history/

Good engines by all accounts. I would certainly rather have one over a Briggs and Stratton if money was no object.

They've made air cooled engines for years under the name Robin. Many people rated them highly.

Subaru lawnmowers - daveyjp
I noticed the other week that Homebase sell Subaru lawnmowers. Not having a lawn its not something I ever look at!
Subaru lawnmowers - focussed

About Briggs and Stratton engines:-

Yes-the past history of them isn't exactly good - used a lot of fuel for their power and not brilliant starters etc etc - However, things have changed.

I have two 6.0 hp single cylinder B and S - on the gardening fleet, I have about 1 1/2 acres of mixed grass and woodland to look after here in France.

The small ride-on mower that I have is a GGP [Global Garden Products,they make Mountfield and loads of other makes including Honda Ride-on mowers] - bought new in 2010, it's got a vertical crankshaft 200 cc OHV 6 hp B &S and has been brilliant for the seven years I have used it - it uses so little fuel I am constantly amazed how much work it does for so much grass mowed. It always starts first pull-it's not electric start.

I also have a small tracked walk-behind dumper/tractor for transporting cut firewood out of our woodland, bought new in 2012- it's got a 200 cc OHV 6 hp horizontal shaft OHV B&S and again has been brilliant - in low gear it will pull fallen 9 inch diameter pines out of the bushes so I can get to them to chainsaw them up for firewood. Again, not electric start but starts first pull and doesn't use much fuel.

I've also got some Hondas, a commercial 35 cc four-stroke Honda brushcutter/line trimmer, a 200 cc Honda rotary mower and a 100 cc Honda powered Bell compactor plate.

Subaru lawnmowers - Fishermans Bend

Rather have a Honda engine than a Briggs and Stratton. Even better. www.egopowerplus.co.uk/products/mowers

Subaru lawnmowers - jc2

Both Honda and B & S engines are now made in China.My ancient motor mower-B & S motor built in Mexico,I believe, still starts first pull.

Subaru lawnmowers - Steveieb
GGP Mountfield seem to have cracked the quality issues of building engines in China but by far the biggest problem with small engines is bio fuel/petrol which gums up the carb jets if left for any time.

So don't use old fuel as this will result in a new carb as the jets on the latest engines are so small, down to Eco emissions promises that they block up regularly resulting in a non start.
Subaru lawnmowers - jc2

My ancient B & S still started first pull on last year's fuel.

Subaru lawnmowers - corax

With B&S engines it depends on which model you have. The old classics started well, the INTEK engines were hit and miss. The Japanese engines just work, all the time.

Subaru lawnmowers - Steveieb

Sorry to report that even the most well known Japanese egines are suffering problems with old fuel and complex starting mechanisms.

Almost unheard of before as reliability was their key feature. I have a 20 year old Honda which starts first time after leaving it for up to two years but the modern versions with small jets to meet environment standards all suffer from bio clog in the small jets.

So throw away old fuel at the end of the season and run the fuel tank dry.

Best era was circa 2005 with metal decks etc . Saw a 20 year old Hoda recently working fine with no oil showing on the dipstck!

Subaru lawnmowers - madf

and run the fuel tank dry.

Best era was circa 2005 with metal decks etc . Saw a 20 year old Hoda recently working fine with no oil showing on the dipstck!

Metal decks rust .. a lot.

MY B&S engne in my Viking lawnmower has been painless for the 3 years we have owned it. I don't drain fuel in winter, just add fresh in spring.. No issues starting ...

Subaru lawnmowers - Steveieb

Ok Madf but balance the cost of a can of fuel against a replacement carb, which is becoming the norm when mower engines start playing up as any attempt to clean the jets on modern engines is becoming increasingly not practical if you want reliabilty in the future

Subaru lawnmowers - corax

Briggs and Stratton do a fuel preserver called Fuelfit, it stops the petrol deteriorating for up to 3 years, though I've never needed to test it for that duration.

Just put 10ml into a 5 litre can, the fuel is preserved over winter and treated petrol can be left in the mower - no starting problems.

Ethanol in modern petrol is terrible for corrosion of the fuel system, it eats away at the rubber pipes.

Edited by corax on 03/07/2017 at 21:26

Subaru lawnmowers - sandy56

I run an old SABO lawnmower, aluminium deck, with a BS engine. I dont use additives in the fuel and it usually starts easy, in the spring.

It used a new spark plug once in 8 years.

Subaru lawnmowers - Fishermans Bend

A Honda engine will always start more easily than a BS, tends to be smoother and quieter, just my experience in 15 years of garden maintenance. Some Haters can be a right sod to start.

Since buying a rechargeable EGO mower, every petrol engined one I have to used feels like an unrefined, smelly, polluting dinosaur. Urgh!

Edited by Fishermans Bend on 03/07/2017 at 23:38

Subaru lawnmowers - Andrew-T

So throw away old fuel at the end of the season and run the fuel tank dry.

Our Hayter walk-behind must be about 15 years old with a B&S engine. It uses an unmeasurably small amount of oil, and starts well from cold. We have it serviced every other winter, tipping out any unused fuel (which goes into the old car). It can be very awkward to start hot, and as the engine must stop to empty the grass-bag that can be extremely irritating. But I guess that problem is down to poor tuning.

Subaru lawnmowers - Avant

If it's one of those with a bar that you hold to keep the engine going, a giant clothes-peg or Bulldog clip can be very useful to clip the bar to the handle and keep the throttle open while you empty the grass-bag.

Subaru lawnmowers - Fishermans Bend

If it's one of those with a bar that you hold to keep the engine going, a giant clothes-peg or Bulldog clip can be very useful to clip the bar to the handle and keep the throttle open while you empty the grass-bag.

I wouldn't recommend doing that, it's your life.

Subaru lawnmowers - Avant

Ah - when I had a Hayter, the 'clutch' which put it in motion was a separate bar. So provided that the machine was on level ground, it stayed where it was.

Subaru lawnmowers - Fishermans Bend

Ah - when I had a Hayter, the 'clutch' which put it in motion was a separate bar. So provided that the machine was on level ground, it stayed where it was.

More the danger from the rotating blade than anything else. The best Hondas have to have the blade engaged separately, so you start just the engine and engage the balde when you need it, therefore you can leave it stationary without the blade rotating.

Subaru lawnmowers - Andrew-T

If it's one of those with a bar that you hold to keep the engine going, a giant clothes-peg or Bulldog clip can be very useful to clip the bar to the handle and keep the throttle open while you empty the grass-bag.

I've thought about that many times but not actually tried it. I have used just such an arrangement on a cordless hedge trimmer, which allows more freedom of movement than otherwise, but probably poses similar hazards. However with the mower, if you wait until the bag is full enough to need emptying, there is usually grass in the throat which needs clearing, and I'm not going to do that with the engine running .....

Subaru lawnmowers - Metropolis.

My old Suffolk Punch never let me down, neighbour now has it and still running like new.

Subaru lawnmowers - Energyman
I have a push hayter with a B/S engine, not changed the plug in 20 years, mower is about 45 years old, new oil and filter each winter though.
I also have another mower with a Kawasaki twin, 10 year old, though the inline fuel filter never has any visible fuel, but runs like dream. Can't work that one out.
 

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