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I am not sure that Glidermania's comments come under offensive.. sarcastic certainly, (having received a dimiliar response a few years back concerning the wrong oil in my epica at an oil change..)
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=87432
Reply from Avant.. kettle and black.. ribbing...
chevrolet epica vcdi - servicing - Avant
I'm curious as to how you spotted it was the wrong grade.
Did you open the filler cap and sniff knowingly, like a wine expert? Or was the sound of the engine ever so subtly different?
Perhaps, more prosaically, they stated the grade on the invoice.
I'd guess that most of us don't have a clue as to what sort of oil they put in at a service - let alone whether it's the right sort.
Edited by oldroverboy. on 08/05/2017 at 19:52
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Avant - bear in mind we're not the snowflake generation! I quite like hearing harsh opinions; stirs up a bit of discussion...
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I respect honest and direct posts providing they are written courteously. Like many born in the 194know how much weight to a0's I am not a 'snowflake', To refer to people as thick is offensive. It is a delicate line to tread on allowing strongly expressed opinion but stopping when it crosses over to becoming rude.
Glidermania does not appear to answer questions. Avant asked why he had posted. I have asked elsewhere about his level of experience and knowledge - a polite question.
Just to add : it might be helpful to have a brief profile of posters so you could know how much weight to give their opinions. I know from some posts you can tell if they have deep knowledge or, from mine, someone simple but thoughtful.
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You can have my profile Scot, old hand scrat back sided lorry driver of some 40 years full time now not far off retirement, spent 20 years driving car transporters till about 7 years ago, used to be a kerbside cowboy in spare time too between and after 60 and 75 hour weeks on the lorries back in the days when parents had to fund and raise their own families and mortgage interest rates of 10 to 15%, voted Brexit this time, voted No last time, voted UKIP a few times, won't bother voting again, no one worth bothering with.
Not a snowballs hope in hell you are a snowflake, you listen to the opinion of others even if you don't agree with them, the snowflakes can't possibly manage that yet bleat about free speech, they aint big on irony are they, they can't even cope with Germaine Greer that well know extremist right winger, so God help them with what is coming to this country in their lifetimes.
Edited by gordonbennet on 08/05/2017 at 22:59
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Thanks Gordon - I always try to be respectful.
Your motoring experience is very valuable for the forum. I've spent/am spending my life in education. Very mundane driving experience but passed Advanced Motorists. My obsession in motoring is road safety.
I have made many poor buys but a few years ago joined the forum (my contributions the voice of the innocent ) and have learned a lot from people like you, Problemis is now find it difficult so buy another car - my wishes and car problems/weak points !
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I have made many poor buys but a few years ago joined the forum (my contributions the voice of the innocent ) and have learned a lot, Problemis is now find it difficult so buy another car - my wishes and car problems/weak points !
haven't we all made poor buys, and we'll do it again.
If i was going to buy a modern car, and the chances of that are minimal for various reasons, it would probably be a petrol Subaru which i would get LPG converted or a hybrid Toyota/Lexus (not the latest shapes mind, strewth), mainly because i trust those to be worthwhile reliable and durable but also because almost nothing else made in the last few years appeals to me, i do not envy you trying to choose when so many cars seem to have ticking time bomb faults.
In your shoes (and if i had your money :-)) i'd probably keep an eye on Lings Cars and when she has a real lease bargain, they do come up very cheap sometimes, i'd snap the right deal up run it for a couple or three years whatever the deal is and then see whats about next, maybe rinse and repeat, maybe electric will be coming of age then i don't know, but your costs are fixed, no nasty surprises unless you damage the car in some way and have to get it sorted before return.
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haven't we all made poor buys, and we'll do it again.
I'd like to think we at least learn something from them.
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haven't we all made poor buys, and we'll do it again.
I'd like to think we at least learn something from them.
Ditto, and have learned to avoid modern diesels, ( I got rid of the Epica at the right time) steered clear of DSG's and not bought anything else GM or European...
Have had Kia's for 2 and half years now an zero problems.. (touch wood ! )
all with the help of the forum.
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Indeed we do learn from our mistakes but there's always something new and apparently wonderful being launched which is better than everything that went before, lauded as marvellous before its earned such praise, so it's a constant learning curve, pure electric is the latest new kid on the block and they might be a great choice for some people for some of their use, but when they go on the road in volume i can see recharging being a massive problem.
SLO76 i must mention, has been great asset to the forum, his honest appraisals and invaluable comments about avoiding certain engines/gearboxes and confirmation of good bet buys have been gold dust here, when dealers avoid something like the plague then thats a sure sign it's worth us avoiding too, though i suspect his comments arn't quite as welcome in some of the car trade (especially the Diesel car sellers) as they are with us mere punters mind.. -)
I'm a bit surprised he hasn't already got a column somewhere, or a website, even a youtube channel (maybe he has one or more) where he could make a nice little living out of appraising cars for joe public, hmm some makers might even pay him not to broadcast....SLO76 if this is food for thought commission gratefully received ...:
Edited by gordonbennet on 10/05/2017 at 08:46
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In your shoes (and if i had your money :-)) i'd probably keep an eye on Lings Cars and when she has a real lease bargain, they do come up very cheap sometimes,
Not on commission are you?
Strewth I purposefully keep quiet about my business so that people know I'm here to give useful independent advice, and would love a free plug (cue Avant).
TheBroker
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Just as I receive no commission for recommending Bosch approved Car Service Centres : I trust completely Gordon will have no other motivation ( I suspect you were tongue-in-cheek )
I would quite like some way to contact posters who can give professional advice.
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Just as I receive no commission for recommending Bosch approved Car Service Centres : I trust completely Gordon will have no other motivation ( I suspect you were tongue-in-cheek )
I would quite like some way to contact posters who can give professional advice.
Yes tongue in cheek ????
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Not on commission are you?
TheBroker
No, afraid not, if i visited Lings website more than once a year i'd probably have a some sort of fit..:
My son had originally ordered a seriously hot Seat Leon from the good lady, due to unforseen circs a member of the family didn't need their similar hot hatch for near enough the term he was going to lease for, contacted Ling fully expecting to have to pay quite a penaltyif could cancel at all, which i should add he would have paid without quibble, but she found another customer very pleased to be able to get that particular bargain price and only charged my son a minimal admin charge.
Ling did not need to have done that, could have charged the full fee and pocketed the difference, she did not do that she behaved honourably and has gone up yet another notch in my book.
Your posts have been well received here Broker, and i expect if someone wanted to avail themselves of your services then Avant would put the poster requesting in touch via email, same as he would if any two of us posters wanted to privately correspond.
Scot, my post was only mildly tongue in cheek, if i was looking for a modern fairly mainstream car (almost laughable because i really don't like the things, but thats me) i'd be scouring all sorts of brokers and leasers for the right deal on a new car in my shortlist, some chap got lucky and got that hot Seat for about the same cost as a normal model and without the normal wait, so real bargains do crop up..they say money goes to money and i naturally assumed being or having been a senior master in the teaching profession that you wouldn't be short of a bob or two...now that was tongue in cheek :-)
Edited by gordonbennet on 12/05/2017 at 15:55
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Like your sense of humour Gordon. I was meaning The Broker being tongue-in-cheek.
I believe strongly that if you have had good service you should give it the publicity/praise it deserves ; to show it is appreciated and encourage continued good service. Too often people only moan about even the slightest thing. It is much better, in my view, to highlight positive things ( where criticism is deserved then give it ).
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