Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

This is on behalf of a friend of mine who is looking to buy a Yeti DSG as he really likes the practical nature of the car. I have told him that the DSG box attracts some negativity as, apparently, there are many issues with it.

From what I can gather there are a number if variants and I am not sure which one would be fitted to the car he is looking at (65 plate 2.1 TDi 150 BHP). Does anyone know which and, if so, whether it's best avoided? Are they really that problematic? I am just forewarning him as this car would have around 18 mnths warranty left on it though I suppose he could choose to extend it?

He tends to keep the car 5 years with annual (75% motorway) miles of between 15k and 20k.

If the consensus is to 'avoid' what's as practical an alternative please? Budget is around £17k.

Thanks in advance!!

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - RaineMan

This is a tricky one. A local cabbie told me they are fine if you put them in Drive and leave it there but, however, if you start driving it like a manual issues can develop...

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

This is a tricky one. A local cabbie told me they are fine if you put them in Drive and leave it there but, however, if you start driving it like a manual issues can develop...

Indeed - there appear to be two very distict tracks with this and establsihing how big an issue it 'actually' is appears impossible. There are those who are clearly very anti DSG' and believe that failure is inevitable (sometimes with personal experience and those who have trouble free experiences.

However is this not the case to some extent with many vehicles? For example BMW's N47 engine was much maligned and considered equally risky but I know loads of people who never have a problem with them.

I am not sure how much of a problem there is (genuinely, one way or the other).

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - sandy56

Suggest you read the HJ review, with a history of good and bad, and make up your own mind.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

Suggest you read the HJ review, with a history of good and bad, and make up your own mind.

Yep already done that but the issue is that it's mixed messages as are all the reviews. It appears the earlier 7 speed transmissions were prone to failure but that the 6 speed wet clutch variant that is fitted in the car I refer to, with a servicing schedule, has proved pretty reliable.

Which to believe.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - SLO76
For that sort of annual mileage it isn't the gearbox I'd be thinking of. The trade regards it as being weak and prices it accordingly so you can expect a high mileage example to be slaughtered.

The need for an automatic combined with his high mileage use makes finding a car to recommend difficult. The bulk of modern autos in the same size class are either automated manuals like the DSG and most are prone to expensive problems at higher mileage or a CVT which can be reliable as Toyota has proven but they don't take kindly to hard driving where refinement suffers.

Does he really need an auto when so much of his mileage is motorway use?
Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - gordonbennet
Does he really need an auto when so much of his mileage is motorway use?

I'd be thinking along the same lines, the car might be fine ( i like Yeti) but if he insists on a known expensive if it fails gearbox then it would make sense to service the vehicle, including the gearbox, very regularly in order to give it the best chance possible of lasting the course.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232
Does he really need an auto when so much of his mileage is motorway use?

I'd be thinking along the same lines, the car might be fine ( i like Yeti) but if he insists on a known expensive if it fails gearbox then it would make sense to service the vehicle, including the gearbox, very regularly in order to give it the best chance possible of lasting the course.

I also agree however it's more of a 'needs' an auto than 'wants'. Apologies - should have made that clearer.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232
For that sort of annual mileage it isn't the gearbox I'd be thinking of. The trade regards it as being weak and prices it accordingly so you can expect a high mileage example to be slaughtered. The need for an automatic combined with his high mileage use makes finding a car to recommend difficult. The bulk of modern autos in the same size class are either automated manuals like the DSG and most are prone to expensive problems at higher mileage or a CVT which can be reliable as Toyota has proven but they don't take kindly to hard driving where refinement suffers. Does he really need an auto when so much of his mileage is motorway use?

Really? I find Yeti's, if anything, are overpriced because of their almost unique offering of practcality. I haven't managed to find a cheap auto version yet.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - daveyjp

I've owned two DGS Audis, one was fine (2.0 140), one was a dog (2.0 170).

As reliability is being discussed I have just looked up both on MOT history. The 170 is no longer on the database - reg change or car scrapped?

The 140 however is and at the last MOT in Feb 2016 had done 260,000 miles. No record for Feb 2017. I have no idea how well the gearbox has performed, but I doubt anyone would spend thousands on a new one once a car had done over 150,000 miles.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - SLO76
"Really? I find Yeti's, if anything, are overpriced because of their almost unique offering of practcality. I haven't managed to find a cheap auto version yet."

I see older DSG equipped VAG stock going through the ring on a regular basis and can assure you that the trade pay substantially less than they do for a manual. This is more noticeable on stock 5yrs old and beyond but yes it isn't always reflected in the retail prices they charge because they're factoring in the increased risk presented by the DSG box and higher mileage examples are heavily hit.

Edited by SLO76 on 06/03/2017 at 13:30

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

Just a further question on this if you don't mind with something that cropped up today. A suitable Yeti was found this week and the car was due to be collected tomorrow but the (non Skoda) dealer called this afternoon to say that the service history of the vehicle is unclear, without necessarily an issue.

The car was registered in October 2015 and has now completed only 7k miles. Skoda, like VW, have either fixed interval (1 year or 10k miles) or long life (when the car decides) services and I am still unclear about which servicing regime the car is on as yet - this will be clarified tomorrow. If it's long life then it's entirely feasible that, with the mileage, the first is just not due and everything is fine.

If, however, it's on fixed interval it means that the first service in October 2016 was missed and he is unsure as to whether to go ahead or not? As far as I see it there are 2 issues:

1 - The car is highly unlikely to have suffered an issue regardless of the missed service given it's low mileage and it can be serviced straight away then revert to its second service when due in October 2016.

2 - The warranty is the issue though Skoda may agree to give something in writing to say it will be honoured/extended.

What's your advice please? If Skoda are agreeable to honour the warranty do you see a reason not to go ahead or would you walk away anyway? Is there a reason to not go ahead with the car on any mechanical grounds after a missed service?

Thanks for the help.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Avant

You've identified the crucial question - which plan has it been on? The point being that if it hasn't been serviced in accordance with the plan, it could void the warranty, which should run until October 2018. And as we all know, there has to be a chance that something will go wrong with the DSG.

The long life plan is designed for high-mileage cars so this is less likely. You don't need us to tell you that if it has missed a service, your friend needs to walk away.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

You've identified the crucial question - which plan has it been on? The point being that if it hasn't been serviced in accordance with the plan, it could void the warranty, which should run until October 2018. And as we all know, there has to be a chance that something will go wrong with the DSG.

The long life plan is designed for high-mileage cars so this is less likely. You don't need us to tell you that if it has missed a service, your friend needs to walk away.

Thanks Avant. I had a brew with him earlier this evening and that was pretty much the conclusion we came to - if it's on long life servicing (and it may have been as it was ex-lease) then he's ok with it but at face value if it's missed a service by so long then it's think again time.

Just one thing we need to consider - if it is on fixed interval servicing and has missed one but Skoda agree to extend the warranty and we were to get the car serviced now would that necessarily be equally as bad a decision?

I have never come across this before so have to make sure it's a head not heart decision.

Thanks again.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - daveyK_UK

As bad as the DSG box can be, the Ford powershift makes it look good.

Be grateful if anyone can point me in the direction of a specialist who is able to fix the Ford powershift, the response from Ford dealers is full replacement , wont attempt a repair.

Edited by daveyK_UK on 12/03/2017 at 18:32

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Stanb Sevento

You should be able to interogate the onboard computer and find which service regime the car is on along with the miles and time till next service. Im not familiar with the Yeti but they are all much the same. With the ignition on but engine not running you can scrole thruogh a lot of options on the screen between the instuments, one is for service information. The variable service can not be rest by my the owner but the fixed one can.

My car is on the variable service interval and I do a low mileage. Wifes small petrol car is used for the short trips so my diesel has a lot of days not used at all. Dealers dont like it as it cuts their revenue a lot. Many factors determin how long between services but the main ones are, number of cold starts, oil quality as measured by the sensor and hours at very high oil temperratures.

If you need an automatic where are you going to get one more reliable than the wet plate DSG ?

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - gordonbennet
If you need an automatic where are you going to get one more reliable than the wet plate DSG ?

er almost all torque converter boxes available over the last 30 years?

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Stanb Sevento

30 years ? I didnt know we were talking about classics. LOL

Yes there are good torque converter atomatices out there no argument, but in a Yeti type vehicle. I cant think of any, maybe Mazda ? More suited to bigger cars in my opinion.

Skoda Yeti DSG - risky? - Dingle232

Well, mystery solved as the car was on long life servicing confirmed by Skoda. It can be serviced now and converted to fixed interval servicing of 10k/1 year so no real dramas.

I am very tempted to buy it myself as my mate is dithering about the colour (well, his Missus is) :-). Very practical vehicle and good value.

 

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