What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

I was taught to drive with my hands on the sterring wheel at ten to two. A relative does it at five to one, totally wrong. Recently read quarter to three is now accepted, perhaps because nowadays just about every car has power steering.

What time to backroomers drive at? And what is considered the best nowadays?

FB.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - craig-pd130

Usually at quarter to three in town, and on motorways I do 25 minutes to 3 (left elbow on the armrest, left hand resting on the bottom of the wheel).

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - RobJP

I seem to recall the 'Roadcraft' handbook recommended 9-3 positioning.

I usually drive like that, however, much like craig-pd, it's a bit different on a motorway, with the left elbow supported so lower down on that side.

I think it's far more important that you are in good, positive control, rather than some dogmatic 'correct' hand positioning - if you've had an elbow injury that could be very uncomfortable when driving longer distances, for example.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - RichT54

I remember reading somewhere that steering wheel airbags mean that 10 to 2 is more dangerous than 9 to 3 ?

Not sure if that is correct, but I mostly use 9 to 3. I find that it makes using the indicators and wipers easier for me.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - bathtub tom

I had a driving assessment by an ex-traffic officer. He commented he suspected I drove with only one hand on the wheel, I replied, "I suspect you're right".

I do tend to cruise at 'half past three'.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Andrew-T

It depends. On M-ways, when moderate steering is required only for overtaking, I often have one hand at 6 o'clock. On other roads more like 20 to 4, especially if wipers or other controls are called into action. It also depends on where the wheel has its spokes, of course.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Smileyman

oh, is it meant for both hands all the time?

I've never noticed, will give it thought tomorrow when commuting ... will be a distraction from listenting to Chris Evans / Simon Mayo!

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - bolt

never liked 10 to 2, always found it awkward, those I see using it always look the same and take ages to turn, personaly as long as your in control I dont think it matters where you hold the steering

I sometimes steer using palm of hand only and never had a problem, don`t advanced driving instructors teach that way ?

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Avant

The important thing, surely, is to be comfortable and relaxed as far as possible. Perhaps because of being fairly short, I'm most comfortable with 20 to 4. But it'll differ, person to person.

But I do remember Mr and Mrs Lawson who lived near my parents when I was a child. They had a 'granny' Rover which Mr Lawson, tall and thin, drove with his hands at 12 o'clock, whereas Mrs Lawson, large and plump, drove with them at half past 6, more or less in her ample lap.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - davecooper

Twenty past ten for some reason. I just find it comfortable.

Edited by davecooper on 02/03/2017 at 12:54

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

A little research on the internet indicates 10 to 2 is now unwise due to greater risk of injury to hands from the airbag being activated. Most steering wheels have grips, suggesting quarter to three is now the optimum postion, perhaps the safest position. 20 to 4 is mentioned in the below article with the caveat that postion could result in less control. Tried 20 to 4, terrible, also been a passenger in a car driven like that, just awful control on corners. Although it does seem to suit Avant, so perhaps related to driver height and driving position.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119008/How-holdi...l

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - gordonbennet

I couldn't answer this last night, and having driven to and from work in me car i still couldn;t tell you where me mitts were.

However, in the lorry it's usually 10 to 4 with me right elbow on the door arm rest, the reason for the just before 4 o'clock is so i can operate the manual autobox override which is fingertip control of me right mitt.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - ExA35Owner

I was taught that off-road you should ensure your thumbs are outside the steering wheel. Hitting a rock will result in kick-back of the wheel and the risk of breaking or dislocating a thumb which would come into contact with a rapidly-rotating spoke.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

Nephew just had his first driving lesson. Instructor says quarter to three.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - bathtub tom

I was taught that off-road you should ensure your thumbs are outside the steering wheel. Hitting a rock will result in kick-back of the wheel and the risk of breaking or dislocating a thumb which would come into contact with a rapidly-rotating spoke.

Didn't old Defenders have steering boxes, one advantage of them was that didin't happen.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Andrew-T

I was taught that off-road you should ensure your thumbs are outside the steering wheel. Hitting a rock will result in kick-back of the wheel and the risk of breaking or dislocating a thumb which would come into contact with a rapidly-rotating spoke.

How much kick-back is there with conventional or electric PAS, compared with old-style direct steering ?

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Avant

It depends what suits you personally - we're all different. I'd have thought that 20 to 4 should give you the same amount of control as 10 to 2, or am I missing something?

On a long trip I'll sometimes rest my elbow on the door for a short time, which necessitates 10 to 2, and it doesn't feel any different terms of control.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - skidpan

Very difficult to give a simple answer, depends what I am doing.

Using the phone and texting needs a different position to pouring a drink or making a sandwich.

Holding the tablet to watch a film requires a different position as well especially if the phone rings at the same time.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

It depends what suits you personally - we're all different. I'd have thought that 20 to 4 should give you the same amount of control as 10 to 2, or am I missing something?

On a long trip I'll sometimes rest my elbow on the door for a short time, which necessitates 10 to 2, and it doesn't feel any different terms of control.

You are. You certainly shouldn't be resting your elbow on the door. Much more difficult to move the wheel easily at 20 to 4 than 10 to 2, restricts your arm movement. 10 to 2 is more natural, much easier to move the wheel. If you're on a motorway I can see why people go for one hand on the wheel or both lower than 3.45pm, but that changes when you are on a twisty road or if driving includes roundabouts. Avant, I wonder how your wife and family do this?

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - RobJP

Anyone got a copy of 'Roadcraft' to hand, to see what that says (if anything) ?

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - SteVee

From Roadcraft >>Place your hands on the wheel with your palms on the rim at about the quarter-to-three or ten-to-two position.<<
My copy is copyright 1997

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Avant

How many of us can say, hand on heart, that we NEVER rest our elbow on the door? I only do so for a short period, literally to rest it, and obviously only when the road is straight.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Cris_on_the_gas

How many of us can say, hand on heart, that we NEVER rest our elbow on the door? I only do so for a short period, literally to rest it, and obviously only when the road is straight.

Only when taking the driving test or doing an advanced test !

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

How many of us can say, hand on heart, that we NEVER rest our elbow on the door? I only do so for a short period, literally to rest it, and obviously only when the road is straight.

That's true, I suspect many do, still wrong. If you are holding 20 to 4 you must have odd arms to be able to reach top of door. LOL. I can't do top of door, too b***** uncomfortable, yet I've followed a mate driving an auto Merc, just one hand on wheel resting elbow on top of door, turning right - terrible driving. If on a long journey I'll certainly sometimes use door armrest if it's a motorway. Father - in - law uses the centre armrest for respite in his 1990s Mercedes.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - bathtub tom

I can't understand folk that reach for the top of the wheel underhand. What happens if the airbag goes off?

They're usually the type that wear a seat belt under their arm.

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Avant

"If you are holding 20 to 4 you must have odd arms to be able to reach top of door."

True - see my post above ".... which necessitates 10 to 2".

What time do you drive at? 10 to 2? Quarter to 3? - Fishermans Bend

"If you are holding 20 to 4 you must have odd arms to be able to reach top of door."

True - see my post above ".... which necessitates 10 to 2".

Thanks for pointing that out. 10 to 2 with elbow resting on top of door probably won't give more control than 20 to 4. If you are doing the latter in a straight line - probably fine. If I do 20 to 4 my elbows are resting on my body, no way I can move my arms to steer. Never seen 20 to 4 advocated by professional or advanced drivers.

 

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