any - Stiff shoulders - Metropolis.

Anyone else suffer from stiff/achey shoulders whilst driving? solutions anyone?

any - Stiff shoulders - corax

It sounds like your driving position might need adjusting.

Are you a particularly tense or nervous driver? That can tighten the muscles around the neck and shoulders without someone even realising it.

Has it started with the purchase of a different vehicle?

There could be all sorts of reasons for this.

any - Stiff shoulders - madf

I used to.

Then I changed driving position and kept moving my arms around every 10 minutes or so..Problem disappeared.

any - Stiff shoulders - Metropolis.

Solved by moving seat slightly further forward, will have to get used to slightly cramped legs for now. Cheers all

any - Stiff shoulders - RT

Is the steering column adjustable - or just put the seat back a little more upright.

any - Stiff shoulders - MGspannerman
A long term problem with my 07 reg Prius. I was in many ways pleased with the car but anything over two hours behind the wheel left me with shoulder and neck pain. I am 6'4" tall and needed the seat well back. The steering wheel adjusted for tilt but not reach. I did over 100k in the car but in reality no combination of seat back angle, forward/backward seat movement, tilt angle etc addressed the problem. I was pleased to see it go in the end and swapped it for a Volvo V60 - what a contrast! I now have a 63reg RAV4 and that is very acceptable, but not up to Volvo standsrd. Frankly, the car nearly crippled me, Iif you can't sensibly fix the problem with your current car then my advice would be to move it on sooner rather than later, I hung on simply for economic reasons but would not do so again. I am now much more careful with respect to seat comfort and would not suffer in this say in the future. Full wheel adjustment is critical for me especially forward/aft. My advice. Get rid!
any - Stiff shoulders - Sofa Spud

I used to.

Then I changed driving position and kept moving my arms around every 10 minutes or so..Problem disappeared.

But having to make frequent detours to drive round multi-storey car parks can be time consuming, especially on long trips.

any - Stiff shoulders - Avant

Would be interesting to know what car you have, PCharlton.

I'd suggest that anyone uncomfortable enough to think about changing cars should have a Volvo on their shortlist. The seats are some of the best in the business, and as far as I know the steering wheel can be moved both up and down and fore and aft on all models.

any - Stiff shoulders - Metropolis.

The Swedes (I say Swedes because I'd include Saab in this) have always been ahead of the game when it comes to orthapeadic seats. I am driving a Land Rover Discovery 2. It has rake but no reach adjustment. Thankfully I have solved the issue by combination of moving seat further forward and lowering the steering wheel.

I have always driven Land Rovers and quite possibly because of that I find other cars very uncomfortable to drive in general, not just the seats. As a result I won't be swapping anytime soon.

any - Stiff shoulders - Avant

Glad you've sorted it. I hope that later Discoveries have reach adjustment: it seems pretty shameful that any Discovery - given its market position - didn't have that fairly basic feature.

The first car I remember with steering wheel adjustment - both reach and rake - was my mum's Triumph 1300 in the late 1960s.

Of all the British makes that bit the dust, I think Triumph was the saddest loss. There have been very few natural successors to the Triumph Vitesse saloon and convertible (Herald body, Triumph 2000 engine). But the Leyland touch was there even with the Vitesse - it took them several years to realise that the bigger engine also needed modifications to the suspension.

Maybe the nearest today is the Audi A3.

any - Stiff shoulders - Andrew-T

I'd suggest that anyone uncomfortable enough to think about changing cars should have a Volvo on their shortlist. The seats are some of the best in the business, and as far as I know the steering wheel can be moved both up and down and fore and aft on all models.

When the Fiat Punto first appeared (1990s?) many people, including HJ, said it had excellent 'orthopedically-designed' seats. I had one for a year or two and found them comfortable.

Problem is, every new model has to have completely redesigned seats (why?). Like everything else in present-day cars, styling trumps all. My Pug is being fixed as we speak, and the fixer says that he can't understand whether the needs of assembly or re-assembly were ever considered alongside the overall appearance. Part of the reason why repair costs so often make relatively minor accidents into write-offs.

any - Stiff shoulders - John F

Anyone else suffer from stiff/achey shoulders whilst driving?

Yes. I suspect lots of other OAPs do, too.

solutions anyone?

Armrests.

The only things that stop your arm falling off are the muscles and ligaments around the ball and socket shoulder joint which is so shallow there is nothing else to stop the ball of the arm bone falling out of the socket of the shoulder bone. Constant tension on these tissues can be painful.

I cannot understand why car seats are not equipped with adjustable arm rests on both sides like the van I drove the other week, especially when so many hours are spent sat in jams.

any - Stiff shoulders - RT

Anyone else suffer from stiff/achey shoulders whilst driving?

Yes. I suspect lots of other OAPs do, too.

solutions anyone?

Armrests.

The only things that stop your arm falling off are the muscles and ligaments around the ball and socket shoulder joint which is so shallow there is nothing else to stop the ball of the arm bone falling out of the socket of the shoulder bone. Constant tension on these tissues can be painful.

I cannot understand why car seats are not equipped with adjustable arm rests on both sides like the van I drove the other week, especially when so many hours are spent sat in jams.

As an OAP with moderate osteo-arthritis, it's all down to the correct seating position which either requires lots of different adjustments or a lot of luck - but that's no different for the young, fit (original definition) whipper-snappers.

I've always taken my time in car showrooms, getting the seat/steering best suited for my comfort - often having to ask salesmen to b****r off and leave me to it - and then having optimised the driver's seat position I then get into the back seat behind it to assess the comfort for a passenger my size.

I don't think that arm-rests are meant for use while driving, I doubt that any safety organisation would endorse their use - how ever much it's shown in American films.

any - Stiff shoulders - corax

On every car that I've driven, I find that the left arm rest just gets in the way when I change gear, and I move it back. I must have particularly long arms.

any - Stiff shoulders - John Boy

Going off-topic slightly, John F's observations about the shoulder joint reminded me of having a carpal tunnel operation on my right wrist and needing to minimise the use of that arm for a week or so. I bought a "spinner" to attach to the steering wheel, so that I could steer mainly with the left hand (my car is an automatic, so I didn't need to use a gear lever whilst on the move). Using the spinner caused a recurrence of pain in my left shoulder, which I used to get driving vans and minibuses with gear levers which were very stiff to operate. The recurrence led me to conclude that spinning a steering wheel under the palm, which lots of drivers do, is really bad for the shoulder joints.