Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - RT

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-3...3

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - SLO76
No surprise there. The SNP are dishonest and utterly incompetent.
Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - Falkirk Bairn

Saw him the TV the other week expalining the troubles with the train services were being addressed.

Looks like he might have some first hand experience of the trains in the near future - 6 points minimum for no insurance! He may already have a few points = Driving Ban!

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - madf

It is wrong to criticise him. Politicians should be free from laws designed to catch criminals... :-)

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - Vitesse6

At least he has owned up and isn't trying to wriggle out of it.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - concrete

At least he has owned up and isn't trying to wriggle out of it.

Could hardly do other than admit the offence. It is an absolute: you are insured or you are not. No grey area. Much as I dislike most politicians I suppose it is just possible that he or his 'office' forgot to renew. The consequences of his having a serious accident are too horrible to contemplate. Now he will have to stand up, pay up and look the better for doing so.

Cheers Concrete

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - RT

At least he has owned up and isn't trying to wriggle out of it.

Could hardly do other than admit the offence. It is an absolute: you are insured or you are not. No grey area. Much as I dislike most politicians I suppose it is just possible that he or his 'office' forgot to renew. The consequences of his having a serious accident are too horrible to contemplate. Now he will have to stand up, pay up and look the better for doing so.

Cheers Concrete

Apparently he was driving a friend's car but not covered as his own car was insured by his wife with him as a named driver.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - SLO76
"Apparently he was driving a friend's car but not covered as his own car was insured by his wife with him as a named driver."

Ignorance of the law is no defence in law and of all the people who should know the rules the Transport Minister is at the top of the list.

Let's be honest here, we all know you wouldn't be covered to drive another car if you didn't have a full comp policy in your own name. This twit has either deliberately broken the law or is guilty of stupidity of the highest order. I suspect the former.
Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - RT
This twit has either deliberately broken the law or is guilty of stupidity of the highest order. I suspect the former.

He's a politician - I suspect the latter!

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - SLO76
By my thinking a Transport Minister who has committed a Road Traffic Offence should resign on principle. Man should know the rules.
Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - Avant

I don't think so - ministers should resign if they are shown to be incompetent or corrupt (or both). This is a careless mistake which he won't make again, and I agree with the Scottish Conservatives who say he should use this as an opportunity to remind people of the importance of being insured.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - SLO76

I don't think so - ministers should resign if they are shown to be incompetent or corrupt (or both). This is a careless mistake which he won't make again, and I agree with the Scottish Conservatives who say he should use this as an opportunity to remind people of the importance of being insured.

No offence Avant but I don't accept this was a careless mistake. The man didn't have an insurance policy, he was merely a named driver on his wife's. I'd be amazed if any man his age didn't know he wasn't covered. The party should take it as an opportunity to remind uninsured drivers that they will be punished when caught and sack him.

Edited by SLO76 on 07/12/2016 at 17:55

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - RT

I don't think so - ministers should resign if they are shown to be incompetent or corrupt (or both). This is a careless mistake which he won't make again, and I agree with the Scottish Conservatives who say he should use this as an opportunity to remind people of the importance of being insured.

IMO, Ministers committing offences within their own area of responsibility should be subject to additional sanction - bear in mind that any normal motoring penalties have little or no effect on Ministers who get chauffered cars to use.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - groaver
No surprise there. The SNP are dishonest and utterly incompetent.

It's a good job the rest aren't to keep them to account, isn't it?

The minister is a silly man who really has no defence.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - Falkirk Bairn

Humza with no Insurance

Sun's Headline

Hum & Dumber - nice one!

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - catsdad

He should have known better on that particular one.

However it is easy to make an innocent mistake. For example take the questioner on today's Ask HJ. The question is about changing your alloys for steels and that is notifiable (and probably chargeable). I bet that level of detail would catch a lot of people out. Do those who swap to winter steel wheels and back to alloys tell their insurer at every swap point?

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - RT

When I bought/insured my car initially, I simply informed my broker that I would be fitting winter wheels/tyres, of a style/type/size recommended by the car maker, and refiiting the OE wheels/tyres in spring - I wasn't asked to notify them each time I swap so I don't.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - SLO76

He should have known better on that particular one.

However it is easy to make an innocent mistake. For example take the questioner on today's Ask HJ. The question is about changing your alloys for steels and that is notifiable (and probably chargeable). I bet that level of detail would catch a lot of people out. Do those who swap to winter steel wheels and back to alloys tell their insurer at every swap point?

Sorry catsdad but this isn't a case of someone making an innocent mistake. He didn't have an insurance policy on any car. He was only listed as a named driver on someone else's policy. He absolutely knew this, of course he did and has simply been caught blatantly breaking the law and considering the position he holds he should resign.
Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - Energyman
Was he a named driver to get a cheaper quote? Politician, antisocial hours etc, business use?
Let's hope he wasn't twisting the rules.
Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - catsdad

Hi SLO

I didnt say HE made an innocent mistake but I outlined another circumstance where it is easy to make a mistake and someone might find themselves uninsured. Happy to clarify as I can see how my post might be misconstrued as excusing him.

Scotland's Transport Minister - no insurance! - concrete

No matter how many ways this is looked at; he broke the law. Ignorance is no excuse. I saw this character arguing for the SNP at the independance referendum. He stuck me as no slouch when it comes to grasping situations. Therefore a simple insurance policy should not present too much difficulty for him. My guess is he is a named driver to save money on the policy. Not illegal if he is an occasional driver under the policy, definitely so if he turns out to be the main driver. As Transport minister he really has nowhere to go on this occasion because his actions were at best stupid and at worst plain illegal. He may not resign for the former but should for the latter. That is a matter for his conscience.

Did I say that? He is a politician, he will take the route that least damages any future he may have as a politician.

Cheers Concrete