London 'supper highway' - Palcouk

I had a need to drive into central London, Friday daytime, as I'm now semi retired its something I only do every 3 months or so. Public transport is not an option.

The superhighway 'cycle' rendered the drive from City A/P to W1 difficult and lengthened by roads now closed to vehicles, available only to cycles.

Leaving W1 to City A/P at 4pm the journey down the embankment was slooow, as it was now a single lane, the other lane now being a cycle highway. In the 30/40 minute time taken to reach Tower bridge I doubt there were more than 30 cycles on this superhighway.

The millions tfl spent on this superhighway seems to me a complete waste of the taxpayers money, under current circumstances. I for one am glad I disposed of my London based business 5 years ago, when I could see the way things were going.

London 'supper highway' - KB.

Looking at the title I was anticipating a topic about eating sandwiches or pies whilst driving. I was rather hoping to hear some debate regarding which pasty was best...Philps pasties versus Rowes versus Ginsters.

London 'supper highway' - RaineMan

Whilst I think that these are a good idea I am not convinced every 'super highway' has been throughly thought through. Personally I would suspend any further work on them until cyclists start obeying the highway code, i.e. not ignoring lights, traffic lights, no cycling signs, etc. Recently I was crossing at a green man from St Pauls area to Fleet Street and had to step back rapidly as a lycra clad road warrior ignored the lights!

The title had made me expect a main road with good parking and a choice of eateries!

Edited by RaineMan on 17/09/2016 at 17:25

London 'supper highway' - FP

Supper highway?

Piece of cake.

London 'supper highway' - Squirrel tail

I was thinking some sort of 'fast food" thingy.

London 'supper highway' - Smileyman

considering the country is broke, the government still spending more than it earns in revenue thus getting further into debt by the day I really don't understand these wonderful idealistic "jobsworth" projects that negatively impact more people than they benefit .....

London 'supper highway' - gordonbennet

The country isn't just broke its broken, it's sinking under a constant unnatural increase in the population, this cannot be fixed with space being so expensive and so limited,

These vanity projects are bread and circuses, glorified cycle lanes are not going to sort London's problems any more than spending obscene amounts of borrowed money on a super railtrack to shave an hour off the journey time from the centre of Manc to the the centre of that there London will do any good.

Anyone seen what Manc or Bham traffic is like recently in order to get to the station to catch the train.

Whilst we continue to elect fools and placemen nothing will change.

London 'supper highway' - Bromptonaut

An alternative perspective:

High Speed 2 is needed to deliver capacity. The East Coast and paticularly West Coast lines are full. Just watch how often the zip by when you're on that bit of the M1 near Watford Gap where M1 and West Coast line run together. Upgrading the existing line would cost asmuch as HS2 and be catasrophically disruptive to the day to day service. If you need a new line it makes no sense not to build it for speed.

Cycle commuting in London is huge. I used the eponymous folding bike daily in London from 1999 until redundancy in 2013. During that time growth that started in the eighties really took off - now something like three times what it was in 2000.

I'm not generally a fan of segregated cycle routes. Not because I'm opposed in principle but because far too many are badly, and at times dangerously, implemented. The original implentation along Tavistock way with a narrow 2-way track on the north side constantly in conflict with motor vehicles using the side streets. Better now with a lane on each side.

I've yet to see or try the new route on Victoria Embankment but something was needed. Even as a confident and assertive cyclist I found it too dangerous to use daily. Using it monthly a near miss once or twice a year was acceptable. Using it daily * 2 one or two a week were not.

London 'supper highway' - FoxyJukebox

Interesting. I used to drive regularly in central London-but gave up as soon as the congestion charge was launched. Have never paid a ticket and never will.

Since then I take the train to my mainline station and then walk everywhere ( 3/4mph) unless the bus I want crawls by.

London 'supper highway' - Smileyman

Whilst e need HS2 - the increased capacity is needed now, and as a regular user of HS1 I know the benefits will be tremendous, the cost is still too high, a slighty slower version will cost considerably less yet give almost identical benefit. Also, HS3 needs to be built too, the last time I used the M62 it was not much different from the M25, a glorified car park.