All - Cost of bulbs - S40 Man

Needed a new rear indicator bulb for mot, it was a bit faded. Why to a national high street chain (H) 2 bulbs £6

I thought that's expensive and didn't buy then. Went to local supermarket filling station shop £2 for 2.

That's £4 mark up on the petrol station price. I escaped a good fleecing there I think!

All - Cost of bulbs - Cyd
Not at all. What you did was choose price over quality.
All - Cost of bulbs - njgleeds
However....should you have a 'Trade' card from the high street outlet (H) then the price of the two for £6 bulbs drops straight away to around £1.40!
All - Cost of bulbs - gordonbennet

I buy Lucas, Osram, Philips and such like in multi packs online, some seriously expensive bulbs out there if you have to buy them immediately.

All - Cost of bulbs - S40 Man

Wow that's good to know, but does rather back up my point that if they can make a profit on a trade sale at £1.40 then you are really paying over the odds are £6

All - Cost of bulbs - S40 Man

I didnt notice any difference. The new one flashes orange ok, I can't see how they are inferior quality?

All - Cost of bulbs - Smileyman

Headlamp bulbso, yes I am brand conscious, rear, stop, sidelight, indicator bulbs, no, just look at price. However, I do keep a spare set of bulbs in the car ready for immediate change if a failure occurs..... In some countries it's a legal requirement!

All - Cost of bulbs - elekie&a/c doctor

Cheap bulbs are not for me.They are inferior in both performance and construction,and usually don't last very long.Poor glass envelope,a filament that is out of alignment,and poor metal contact cap that doesn't fit the holder securely.(thats why you have to buy 2).I certainly will not be using them in my Bentley,where you have to remove the front wing for access to the lamp unit.

All - Cost of bulbs - twitcherman

My ride-on mechanic sees to that on the Bentley; I don't like the chauffeur to get his gloves dirty.

All - Cost of bulbs - Steveieb
I agree with Eleciedoc why go to all the trouble of fitting a poor quality bulb when sometimes it is so difficult e.g headlamp replacements which require on occasions open heart surgery.

Stick to the brands recommended above.

The MB main dealer charged £124 to change a headlamp bulb for the previous owner of my sons E350 and the bulb cost £ 80.
All - Cost of bulbs - Smileyman

@ steveieb - at that price I guess it must have been a Xenon bulb, in 166k and 11 years of motoring I've replaced just one of the bulbs, just once.

All - Cost of bulbs - brum

Anyone who thinks there is any significant difference in quality over a 30p indicator bulb (21w type) and a £6 one in a supermarket is deluded. Only difference is packaging. You dont need precision alignment for an indicator bulb. Only avoid chinese (ebay) bulbs because of short life.

All - Cost of bulbs - gordonbennet

In hard use Brum, lorry use in particular i'd beg to differ.

My company still buy in Lucas bulbs which can stand the state of our third world road surfaces when the vehicle is empty, one place i worked where previously Lucas were used, the bulb salesman sold my then boss literally thousands of bulbs of a high street make at knock down prices.

A standard bulk tipper trailer in those days (before fairy lights) had 8 x 5w side light bulbs 9 if the number plate light was on its jack, on a normal empty run across from Widnes via Buxton to the Notts/Yorks coal fields (remember those before a certain PM had her way) a 2 hour run would see 6 of those elcheapo rubbish blown, that didn't happen with Lucas.

All - Cost of bulbs - galileo

In hard use Brum, lorry use in particular i'd beg to differ.

My company still buy in Lucas bulbs which can stand the state of our third world road surfaces when the vehicle is empty, one place i worked where previously Lucas were used, the bulb salesman sold my then boss literally thousands of bulbs of a high street make at knock down prices.

A standard bulk tipper trailer in those days (before fairy lights) had 8 x 5w side light bulbs 9 if the number plate light was on its jack, on a normal empty run across from Widnes via Buxton to the Notts/Yorks coal fields (remember those before a certain PM had her way) a 2 hour run would see 6 of those elcheapo rubbish blown, that didn't happen with Lucas.

Usually agree with you GB, but if you were a rail commuter in the South East (or relying on Eurostar) would you consider RMT's current actions fair and justified? Considering what similar tactics achieved for the NUM and Arthur Scargill, I think they may come to regret it

All - Cost of bulbs - gordonbennet

Out of all the industrial sectors in Britain, the rail workers have done better than nearly everyone else, so yes i do respect what they do.

Oh i have no doubt that sooner or later the powers that be will have them over, automation will take over, and the last net blue collar contributor to our economy has been made redundant and we subsidise over 50% of our working (in our wonderful service industries..pause for guffaw) population, and we have a national debt of £2trillion we can't ever pay back...just not sure as this auto utopia will be quite as wonderful when we get there, but as usual i digress.

Transport sector of road haulage allowed itself to be taken apart piece by piece, our jobs deskilled and semi automated leading to further deskilling, the roads are not safer for this, many of our workers demoralised and brainwashed into unions are bad mindframe, which is as far from the truth as its possible to get.

Thing is unions are not the general secretaries, nor the politicos nor the social or greasy pole climbers, the union is the members at local level paying their small dues and sticking togther to negotiate decent deals for themselves on a local level.

I've been in TGWU (now Unite) for many years, i've driven lorries for 40 years, i've had bad jobs and i've been lucky enough to have been in some of the best jobs in the sector at any given time...didn't manage to get onto Ford's own car transporters mind which is probably the best industrial job in the country, not that lucky..:-)...but all the good jobs i've had have been unionised with proper terms and conditions, partly why i stayed on the car tarnsporters for so many years, and believe you me there are some really bad lorry jobs out there in surprisingly household name companies where drivers are working 70 hour weeks (yes its possible) to make only a liveable wage.

The poor end are not unionised, hence they are taken advantage of.

Being unionised doesn't mean we take advantage of the company, though it must be said there are those who do take advantage of rpoper sick pay etc, but there are enough of us who do know which side our bread is buttered to make up the shorfall for short sighted selfish idiots...which it has to be said teh company itself employed, not us genuine workers who would not have given them the time of day.

Most of us have enough grey matter to know if you have a good job you look after it or it won't be a good job for long.

The rail workers did not allow their jobs to be deskilled, they stuck together, they still have industrial strength, no sorry i do respect them and long may they continue to be a bunch of well paid union members who support each other and stay at the top earnings levels, they are people who those in other industries should seek to emulate not decry through the modern politics of envy.

By the way Aslef and RMT are the only two unions (as far as i know) who recommended Brexit for their members, that speaks volumes.

There, bet you wish you never asked..:-))))

Edited by gordonbennet on 13/08/2016 at 23:29

All - Cost of bulbs - brum

GB, I specifically said the 21w indicator bulb not the 5w "fairy" light bulb. Vibration kills those 5w bulbs when they are lit and most fragile and that is why most cars have at least two sidelights per rear quarter. The heavy filament and low useage of a 21w bulb is completely different matter.

A lot of retailers such as H usually sell a tier 2 product such as Ring as own brand, you can get genuine Osram bulbs from ECP for 60p, which means 10x more expensive for an inferior brand.

Edited by brum on 13/08/2016 at 23:48

All - Cost of bulbs - gordonbennet

Fair point Brum should have read and digested your post, its usually the orange paint peeling off which scraps indicator bulbs now.

All - Cost of bulbs - Cyd

Anyone who thinks there is any significant difference in quality over a 30p indicator bulb (21w type) and a £6 one in a supermarket is deluded.

If you could sit where I sit every day, you would know that that statement is utter t***.

In general it is always true that “better quality” goods cost more, that’s market forces for you. I would agree though that some outlets overprice the good stuff, so if one is careful where one buys one can often get better ‘value’ from a carefully chosen outlet.

There are many aspects to “performance” and Leckie touched on a few, but you’ll just have to take it from me that high quality bulbs from the likes of Osram (and others) will out “perform” just about anything else in any measurable or qualitative attribute.

As an example, when I bought my Saab, I particularly wanted xenon headlights having driven a few cars with them. However, they were hardly even as good as the halogens in my Rover 800 Vitesse. Discussing this at work (with our lighting boys) they assured me the lights should be way superior to the Rover’s and suggested I check the bulbs (it should have had Osrams as OE fit by Saab). I found she was fitted with fairly cheap (but branded) bulbs. On the advice of my colleagues I bought Osram Night Breaker Unlimited HID bulbs. The difference was night and day (pardon the pun) and would have been obvious to anyone not registered blind! 6 years and 80k later I still have the same bulbs - I drive with dip at all times and can discern no fall off in lighting performance as yet. The lighting performance also now befits a car capable of covering ground at a prodigious rate. The purchase price was a bitter pill (even purchasing carefully) but was money well spent.

All - Cost of bulbs - brum

What has your rant got to do with a 21w indicator bulb?

If you bothered to read my posts in full, I pointed out you can get a genuine Osram bulb for 60p, (even less for a Neolux, which is Osram in value packing) so why pay £6?

I had a Saab once (when they werent Vauxhalls in drag) worst car Ive ever owned.