Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Snakey

Maybe its just around here in the North East, but all of the recent roadworks that boasted of improved traffic flow etc have all proved to create the opposite.

After 2 years of miserable roadworks on the Western Bypass, the traffic is now back to what it was before they all started, so £80 million or so down the drain.

In Durham, the Gilesgate bank roundabout now has traffic lights on it, thousands spent to create more congestion. And the same happening on the roundabout at the Leazes bowl.

North Shields Billy Mill roundabout, again thousands to be spent on lights that will (from all past experience) make a busy roundabout into a traffic blackspot.

So who signs off on these half baked schemes? I thought we were short of money these days

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - tourantass
Proberbly the same muppets that agree to speed bumps put everywhere that are not wanted or needed. Anyone one think there must be "incentives" offered.
Any - Roadworks of no benefits - oldroverboy.

I have friends over from geneva, where I used to live, and he goes to work earlier than he needs to by train from versoix to avoid the great unwashed and the traffic lights that seem to be set to allow 2 cars to pass and then change to let public transport through, with the obligatory camera to catch out those who disobey, and the huge jams for the 70000 frontaliers who go in every day from neighbouring france.

They have 30,000 cars a day (measured) passing in front of their house...

And the roadworks still take forever..

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Snakey

Theres more in the future here as well -another multi million pound waste of money to change the Silverlink A19 interchange roundabout. The problem is, everybody can see that it will mean the queue at the already useless tyne tunnel will simply stack up faster.

Some of the schemes offer laughably inaccurate 'traffic forecasts' as their justification - North Tyneside councils video shows congestion where it simply doesn't exist - unless we invent a way to drive more than one car at a time.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - FoxyJukebox

Never ever forget that at the moment private motoring is staggeringly cheap compared to public transport-so everybody drives!

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - focussed

Laydeez and Genleman I give you -- the Postwick Hub!

Close to where I used to live before I escaped the UK.

A monument to the stupidity of the Highway's Agency so-called traffic engineers.

It only cost 21 million and is now going to be "re-designed".

www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/the_21m_postwick_hub_outs...2

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Avant

Extract from that link (thank you Focussed):

He said: “Traffic modelling is done to national standards, but when you have real human beings using a road system you will find there are things you didn’t think would happen or people find other ways to use roads that you didn’t expect.”

He meant 'Traffic modelling is done in London by men in suits who commute by train, never drive anywhere except at weekends and have certainly never driven in Norwich'.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Vitesse6

A couple of years ago Torbay council spent several months and I don't know how much money redesigning a traffic light interchange at a crossroads. From the usual system of each road getting alternate goes, we now have a junction where each of the four arms gets it's own green light whilst the other three sit at red.

I was sceptical whilst they were doing the work, but in practice it actually works and the queues at the lights are actually smaller and the traffic flows better.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Snakey

A couple of years ago Torbay council spent several months and I don't know how much money redesigning a traffic light interchange at a crossroads. From the usual system of each road getting alternate goes, we now have a junction where each of the four arms gets it's own green light whilst the other three sit at red.

I was sceptical whilst they were doing the work, but in practice it actually works and the queues at the lights are actually smaller and the traffic flows better.

That sounds great, but my local experiences are the exact opposite. Such a waste of money as well.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Snakey

Extract from that link (thank you Focussed):

He said: “Traffic modelling is done to national standards, but when you have real human beings using a road system you will find there are things you didn’t think would happen or people find other ways to use roads that you didn’t expect.”

He meant 'Traffic modelling is done in London by men in suits who commute by train, never drive anywhere except at weekends and have certainly never driven in Norwich'.

Doesn't this show that traffic modelling is either a) useless as a concept or b) performed by people who haven't got a clue what they're doing.

In the case of the North Shields Billy Mill works, its both a and b!

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - Avant

Absolutely, Snakey - I think it'll always be both!

There can be no substitute for proper observation of the particular site in question: just as no two human beings are exactly the same, so no two road junctions are the same.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - barney100

M3 is a dirge now, mile after mile of average 50mph sections and you hardly see anyone doing anything. The odd bloke with a broom but it's been like it for years. There are so many stupid road narrowings and humps and bumps it's mindblowing.

Any - Roadworks of no benefits - veryoldbear

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you ... the Milton Interchange on the A34.