Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - Project C

Hi all

Random Q. Is there a such thing as an optimum rev range to keep a car within to preserve the engine? Eg; I generally keep within 2 & 3,000 rpm on my petrol Corsa (change up at about 2750-3000) and imagine this would be lower for a diesel. I would imagine driving TOO economically in terms of revs (ie constantly changing below 2000 in a petrol) would cause the engine to labour and have a negative effect?

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Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - NARU

If the car has a turbo, especially one with variable vanes, its important to give it some revs from time to time, or things can seize up.

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - HandCart

It would have to be quite a flexible petrol engine to be able to 'constantly' be changing up below 2000 rpm.

I consider driving 'economically' to be when I manage to change up before 3000 rpm with a petrol engine (at least not a large V8 or V6),
If making 'standard progress' it would be between 3 and 4000,
and if getting a move on, I will extend it to the edge of the red-line in each gear.

But these are fairly grand generalisations.

Normally, just drive the car in the rev range where the engine 'feels' sweetest and happiest. Yes, labouring it at low revs is bad for it. Constantly running at high revs isn't good either, but you need to give it a good cardiovascular workout reasonably regularly to minimise the risk of things gumming up, like EGR valves.

Be gentle with the engine until it has completely warmed up, use correct-spec good quality oil and filter, changed at least once a year or 10,000 miles, whichever comes soonest - that's your best chance at preserving the engine.

Oh and get some reasonably brisk longer journeys done on A roads or motorways - at least 40 miles - if your car normally just does city traffic trips.

Edited by HandCart on 09/05/2016 at 11:14

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - RT

Find out what rpm the engine develops maximum torque and maximum power - as far as the engine goes, economy and longevity are best if it runs at max torque rpm most of the time - but it needs to get up to max power rpm from time to time.

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - galileo

Find out what rpm the engine develops maximum torque and maximum power - as far as the engine goes, economy and longevity are best if it runs at max torque rpm most of the time - but it needs to get up to max power rpm from time to time.

Theoretically, I've no doubt you are correct.

Many small-ish petrols develop maximum torque at 4000-4600 rpm and are geared 20-21 mph/1000 in fifth . Running most of the time at these revs would mean exceeding NSL or being in third or fourth gear, which doesn't sound either relaxing or economical.

1960's cars typically had max torque around 2500-2700 rpm and were geared about 16mph/1000 so max torque would be 40-ish mph.

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - RT

Find out what rpm the engine develops maximum torque and maximum power - as far as the engine goes, economy and longevity are best if it runs at max torque rpm most of the time - but it needs to get up to max power rpm from time to time.

Theoretically, I've no doubt you are correct.

Many small-ish petrols develop maximum torque at 4000-4600 rpm and are geared 20-21 mph/1000 in fifth . Running most of the time at these revs would mean exceeding NSL or being in third or fourth gear, which doesn't sound either relaxing or economical.

1960's cars typically had max torque around 2500-2700 rpm and were geared about 16mph/1000 so max torque would be 40-ish mph.

I'm well aware that gearing can alter that, hence my comment now in bold

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - John F

labouring it at low revs is bad for it

I suspect this, together with punishing it when cold, is responsible for much undue wear, rather than the actual speed of ratotion. I wonder if there is any evidence that autos, which protect the engine from such abuse, use less oil at 100,000m+ than their manual counterparts.

Our last family car (auto Passat 2.0GL) did over 240,000m on cheap oil changed every 10 - 12K. My records show our present auto Focus 1.6 had a (cheap) oil change in Oct 2014 at 102,800 - exactly 4litres to bring it to half way between the min/max mark. Since then I have added 1.5litres. I am about to change it now that it is at the minimum mark at 113,900. So that's about 6000m per litre. Might have been a bit better with more expensive oil every 365days but perfectly acceptable to me. These days you certainly don't need to change oil just because 365 days has gone by.

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - HandCart

You probably don't strictly need to change the oil after 365 days, but it may depend on what type of use your car gets:

If you've done 10,000 miles, then it's a good idea,

If you do less than 1000 miles a year by making say ten 25-mile journeys, then it's probably okay,

But if you do less than 1000 miles a year in the manner say of the 90-year-old guy opposite me and just travel 2 miles from a cold start twice a week, it may be good to change it anyway because it's probably got an unhealthy quota of petrol/carbon/condensation in it.

Optimum rev range for petrol & diesels - Engineer Andy

Even though I only do about 3000 - 4000 miles in my car (Mazda3 mk1 1.6 petrol), I do mostly mixed and longer journeys on dual carriageways/motorways, but even so, I still like to 'use the entire rev range' on every month or two (i.e. an 'Italian tune-up) above the normal 2000-3500 revs (70mph in mine is about 3500 revs or so) to clear any gunk from the engine and to ensure, if and when needed, that rev range (and thus power/torque band) is available should I need it for a swift overtake, etc.

I think my car's manual even said I should do so (after the original 'running in period' when new) to a dgree to ensure this, a bit like someone exercising regularly, including both sprints and longer distance running so that their tendons don't get short.

As others have said, labouring the engine, especially up hill and/or loaded up, is never a good idea - modern cars don't mind being revved a bit more than those of yesteryear, especially those like mine with variable valve timing technology or turbos that are specifically designed to get extra performance when needed occasionally by various methods, but essentially by giving it a bit of 'welly' near the top of the rev range. My car definitely feels more 'loose' after me giving it an Italian tune-up.