Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - focussed

Now it's Renault's turn.

Hmmm- French carmaker owned 20% by the French state investigated by state fraud investigators.

Anybody like to bet on the outcome?

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Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - slkfanboy

Being in the EU, it's most likely to be swept under the carpet. Had the US been involved then it might be more of an issue for Renault.

Edited by slkfanboy on 14/01/2016 at 12:42

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - Steveieb

Is that right that no French or Italian cars are imported into the States?

Why have these manufacturers decided to opt out?

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - SteVee

Ferraris, Maseratis - and Fiat 500s are imported into USA

I don't know of any French cars imported into USA.

I don't think they decided to opt out - they got pushed out of the market, much like Rover was pushed out.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - RT

Americans will buy European premium and supersports cars, but not mainstream models - the French don't build anything the Americans want.

Rover didn't get pushed out - the cars they built at the time never deserved to succeed anywhere - when the 800 was sold in the US as the Sterling, the build quality was appalling and Rover Group had to send a significant team from the factory to rectify the cars as they came off the boat and deal with all the warranty claim work that just overwhelmed dealers.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - gordonbennet

Doesn't the American consumer get a much better deal on warranties, especially concerning the d*****ine, exhausts and the like?

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - RT

100,000 mile powertrain warranty is common but less common to get long full warranty.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - xtrailman

Americans buy lots of jap cars including Mazda cx-5, Nissan Rouge etc.

Most will not pay the premium prices that the German makers sell.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - Engineer Andy

They also want cars without rock-hard suspension to cope with their poor roads and more rural areas - driving a BMW with ultra-low profile tyres on a badly surfaced or dirt road every day would not be a pleasant experience.

The modders tend to go with Japanese cars as they are generally designed with more bunce in their engineering parts so they can take being amped up to 11 or more. Somehow I can't see any such Yanks buying a Clio or (the Brit modder's car of choice) a Saxo - more like a Civic Type R, Subaru Impreza/BRZ or suchlike, depending on budget.

Back to the story - Nissan surely msut be involved, given they use Renault diesel engines in their tie-up. I wonder if any more makes are going to be dragged into this, given how many source their diesels from other makes or share their development.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - xtrailman

Into to what?

Nothing as yet has been found.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - Smileyman

have Renault & Nissan divorced yet? if not then is there any danger of Nissan being dragged in?

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - xtrailman

No Nissan still use renault engines.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - ExA35Owner

It's closer than just sharing engines. Renault owns over 40% of Nissan; Nissan owns 15% of Renault.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - xtrailman

Although i have little interest in French cars, the Renault engine in my last Xtrail was really good, only lacking low end torque for towing.

It was in my 2009 173ps XT 2L diesel and revved much like a petrol car, with 100% reliability of the 4.5 years i had it. So i don't think theres a lot wrong with the Renault engine from my experience.

Renault - Renault investigated for emissions foul play. - Engineer Andy

The issue isn't about reliability/performance but whether they have had NOx 'defeat devices' (including software in the ECUs) fitted like VAG cars (nothing wrong with their diesels' performance either), hence why I earlier said (assuming anything IS found) that Nissan would be involved too, given they share engines.