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Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - SpamCan61 {P}
Evenin' all

My eldest daughter has been moaning about intermittant internet connection speeds, checked her PC and it seems it is sometimes connecting to someone else's network; speed is fine when it is connected to mine. The PC is running Win XP home SP2, the WiFi adaptor is a Belkin 802.11 b/g USB jobbie.

Poking around in the windows zero configuration options I can find no way of forcing the connection to only use the preferred access point. There does seem to be this option in the alternative Belkin SW, but that doesn't even recognise the adaptor.

I thought this would be an easy one to fix, but it seems not - any other suggestions to force the adaptor to use the right access point? Cheers.
Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - Another John H
If your XP home setup is like mine.... and using Windows for the wireless management.

click start/connect to/show all connections.
(or right click the wireless icon in the lower right of the screen, open network connections)
then right click the wireless network connection icon, choose properties,
click the centre tab wireless networks.

Here you can promote a prefered access point up the pecking order (top down), and also remove any which are a nuisance.

Provided you don't search for available wireless networks I'd expect yours to stay as first choice, at the top.


There might be someone along in a while who knows what they're talking about :)
Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - SpamCan61 {P}
Hi, thanks John - the process you describe is exactly what I've done, my network is the only one in the preferred networks list, and I've unchecked 'automatically connect to non-preferred networks' on the advanced properties tab, which I would expect to be sufficient to stop it wandering, but that isn't the case. :-/
Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - jbif
... the WiFi adaptor is a Belkin 802.11 b/g USB jobbie


If it is this one [F5D7050], which version is it?
www.belkin.com/uk/support/article/?lid=enu&pid=F5D...3
The user manuals for version 1,2, & 3 have instructions for XP from page 23+.

Make/model of the wireless router?

I suggest as a minimum for security, set up router to use WPA-PSK or better encryption, and not to broadcast your SSID. [for greater security, you can go further by limiting which devices with specific MAC addresses can connect to your router].
Then set up USB receiver with a profile to connect to that SSID.

Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - SpamCan61 {P}
>> ... the WiFi adaptor is a Belkin 802.11 b/g USB jobbie
If it is this one [F5D7050] which version is it?
The user manuals for version 1 2 & 3 have instructions for XP from page
23+.

Yep,thanks jbif, it's version 5 of that one. The Belkin SW does include the option to force use of preferred networks only, so it might persevere with getting that SW working rather than using Zero config.
Make/model of the wireless router?


Netgear DG834G
I suggest as a minimum for security set up router to use WPA-PSK or better
encryption and not to broadcast your SSID. [for greater security you can go further by
limiting which devices with specific MAC addresses can connect to your router].
Then set up USB receiver with a profile to connect to that SSID.

At the moment I'm using WEP, plus MAC address filtering; with 4 PCS with 3 different wifi adpators, 2 different wifi radios and a phone connected that's about all that will work reliably across all of them, current challenge excepted of course ;-)
Forcing WiFi adaptor to use a specific acess point - jbif
.. checked her PC and it seems it is sometimes connecting to someone else's network;


A number of people have been arrested for this in recent months.

A report in the paper we cannot link to here said:
"Two officers saw the 39-year-old man sitting on a garden wall outside a home in Chiswick, West London. When questioned he admitted using the homeowner?s unsecured broadband connection from his position on the wall. He was arrested ....

The first conviction for this offence was in 2005. Gregory Straszkiewicz, ....
He was found guilty of dishonestly obtaining an electronic communication service and his computer and wireless card were confiscated, he was fined £500 and given a 12-month conditional discharge. "

Another recent case:
www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3420-two-arrested-for-...l

Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - tyro
>>The Minidump files are all stored in C:WindowsMinidump, which assumes you have Windows installed in C:Windows.

I've now checked the laptop, and must confess that I have not managed to find the WindowsMinidump folder - or any minidump files. How do I find them - assuming that they are there?
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - SpamCan61 {P}
Quickest way is probably to use explorer's search function to look for files on the C: drive with the naming format previously mentioned.
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - tyro
So a search on "dump" or "dmp" should find any minidumps present?
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - SpamCan61 {P}
Search for *.dmp
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - tyro
Thanks for that.

It now seems that no minidump was created at the last crash. We'll see if I can find one after the next one.
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - smokie
I missed the earlier thread on this, but minidumps need to be enabled in XP. Control Panel, System,Advanced, Startup and Recovery options.
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - jbif
It now seems that no minidump was created at the last crash


1) From Start > Run type: drwtsn32.exe
2) Look in the "Crash Dump:" path area to locate the path the dump file is located. Click Browse to go to the user.dmp file
Note: In addition to Smokie's point, note that Dr Watson window in my step 2 above should have the Create Dump file option ticked.

Edited by jbif on 03/09/2008 at 23:24

Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - rtj70
In the previous volume of this thread it was said the options to create a small memory dump were selected. And all old ones should be there too because the files have a date stamp....

Having said that it might be down to what you chose to do when Windows restarts. XP by default will use the last crash to send a report to Microsoft if you let it and this could point you in the direction of any relevant fixes.
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - Stuartli
Microsoft support on the issue:

support.microsoft.com/kb/315263

Also:

tinyurl.com/5syxsx

en.allexperts.com/q/Windows-XP-3282/Minidump-error...m

tinyurl.com/6qmvw9 (believed to be RAM related in this instance)

Just a thought. Have you looked in Events Viewer for other potential clues?

Edited by Stuartli on 04/09/2008 at 10:53

Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - tyro
Stuartli - yes, I have looked in the events viewer. I have found clues, but have been able to make nothing of them.

jbif - 2 questions.
1) Is the user.dmp file the minidump? If not, what is its relation to the minidump?

2) I am fascinated that when I follow the chain from the user.dmp file upward, it goes Dr. Watson > Microsoft > application data > all users > Documents and Settings > Local disc (C)

If I go to My Computer, I can then work downwards to Local disc > Documents and settings > all users - and then it stops. Application Data is not one of the folders I see - just Desktop, Shared Documents, Start Menu, and Favorites.

Why can I not see 'Application Data'? (I realise that this is off the main point, but I am curious.)
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - adverse camber
you have the viewer set to not show hidden/system files.

Its a long time since I used windows but its probably under view->file types or something like that.
Finding the cause of a crash (from vols 159 & 160) - jbif
1) Is the user.dmp file the minidump? If not, what is its relation to the minidump?

more info here:
www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2788295.php
www.cakewalk.com/Support/ProblemReporter/minidump....p
www.dslreports.com/forum/r19971239-Re-XP-Pro-where...p

Send the .dmp file to rtj70 [as per his offer in CRQ vol160 ] for debugging.
2) I am fascinated that when .... Why can I not see 'Application Data'? (I realise that this is off the main point, but I am curious.)

It is a hidden folder/file. Explanation here:
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/l...x
You may probably also have failed to find the .dmp files previously because in the using "search", you may not have ticked the "advanced" option and chosen top 3 options from the sub-menu that then appears.

Edited by jbif on 04/09/2008 at 12:28

Major shutdown - Dog
Upon starting up my 3 year old Mesh computer it got to an early stage in the start up procedure and then abruptly switched off.
Every time I tried to restart it did the same thing.
I got a page come up with a menu of safe mode + restart windows normally + restart to last setting ... none of this would work.
I hit F10 and a mesh page came up and it ran a check but stopped at 80% finished.
I hit del on start up and followed the advice on screen - to no avail.
I was just about to reach for a black sack and I eventually got the critter working (or it just fired up) and a MS warning came up of a serious error.
I filed an error report and it said I have a possible hard disc fault and I should back up my files on an external hard disc.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated - I'm not very computer literate but, being an auto diagnostician (car tuner) I won't be beaten :)
Thanks - Dog.
Major shutdown - Altea Ego
Dog

If you have the original windows disk you, you need to boot this and "repair" (one of the options) your windows installation.

One this is done you need to get your data (files) off to cd and then replace the drive and rebuild windows.
Major shutdown - jbif
I have a possible hard disc fault and I should back up my files on an external hard disc.


1) Stop using the failing disk!
2) Hard disks are cheap as chips nowadays. Buy one, or even two, straightaway.
3) Then make a disk to disk clone/copy/image, test that the image copy works, and then play with the old disk if you want to.

Information to get started here:
www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.sh...l
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_image
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cloning

Major shutdown - Dog
Thanks for that *valued* info Altea Ego and jbif ... I've printed all the details out and will "operate" in due course.
It started up eventually this morning - it kept turning over but wouldn't fire up ... the starter motor (disc drive) was making an awful noise, so I did what any City & Guilds chap would do - I gave it a clout and it fired up :)

Much obliged to you both - Dog.
Major shutdown - drbe
Dog, if your Mesh PC is the same as my Mesh PC, then you don't get installation discs - correct?

I have sometimes thought that it would be a good idea to save the stuff I wanted, format the hard drive - reinstall and start all over again!

If you don't have the Windows installation then you can't do that. Or is there something I haven't thought of?
Major shutdown - colinh
"if your Mesh PC is the same as my Mesh PC, then you don't get installation discs - correct?"

I had the same problem with a Dell desktop, but found there was a file on the hard disk which allowed a reformat and reinstall (Ghost image?) - try their support site

Major shutdown - Dog
Quite correct drbe ... obviously 3 years is a looooooooong time in grey matter terms, I was saying to Ladydog just a minute ago that I'm sure I haven't got an XP installation CD, and as you say - I haven't.
Thanks for that advice colinh, I'll check out the Mesh site.
The 1st time I used the internet was 7 years ago, and I was thinking recently how its changed our lives ... literaly anything can be researched on-line, and there are always folk willing to share their experiences and give advice - for free!

Cheers - Dog.
Major shutdown - ifithelps
I was thinking recently how its changed our lives ... literaly anything can be researched on-line and there are always folk willing to share their experiences and give advice - for free! >>


True, but the problem will always be provenance.

You can't be sure of the reliability of information supplied in any post - including this one.

Wikipedia is taken as 'gospel' by many, yet it contains many inaccuracies.

Much of what is on the net should be viewed with the same suspicion and taken as seriously as you would graffiti on a wall.




Major shutdown - Dog
>>>You can't be sure of the reliability of information supplied in any post - including this one.

Wikipedia is taken as 'gospel' by many, yet it contains many inaccuracies.

Much of what is on the net should be viewed with the same suspicion and taken as seriously as you would graffiti on a wall.<<<


Good point ifithelps, there is also much snake oil on the ww as well!

Dog.
Major shutdown - Stuartli
>>>I haven't got an XP installation CD, and as you say - I haven't.>>

Very few system builders supply one - it's a retail item.

The only Mesh system I've bought (on behalf of an elderly friend) came with a "Recovery" disk, which is probably the last thing you would want to use as they tend to wipe a hard drive...:-)

Incidentally, when I bought a Time system in 1996, it also came with a "Recovery" disk. At the time the youngest offspring, now an IT support specialist consultant, warned me never to use the disk.
Major shutdown - Dog
>>>Very few system builders supply one - it's a retail item.<<<

My Mesh has a system recovery built in Stuartli - not much good if ya can't fire the thing up though :)
The computer is fine at the moment, since I gave it a City & Guilds clout this morning, so I'm going to (gently) threaten it with the hoover & a fine paintbrush before I get the scapel out!

Dog. Obviously if I make a clone & transfer it all to a new hard disc, the system recovery will come into play - I think.
Major shutdown - Victorbox
A MESH PC probably has all the drivers needed by the PC in a folder under C:\ called Drivers. Copy this folder to a memory stick before formatting and reinstalling Windows as you will need some or all of the drivers after the reinstall.
Major shutdown - Dog
Yep - I got it ... Thanks for that Vic.

Dog.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 10/09/2008 at 14:40

Security Software - Recommendations Sought - Bromptonaut
Been a contented user of Norton Internet Security for several years currently using the 2006 version. With subscription about to expire I'm already being pressed to take an upgrade to the present version and I suspect 2006 will no longer be supported. Use NIS 2007 on some work laptops but find the interface less friendly and it ommits the very useful ad-blocker. I've heard that Norton no longer enjoy the best of reputations and my one expererince of their Indian call centre was very negative (reresentative politely acknowledged my instructions not to mess with my configutrations and lied about the absence of ad-blocker in he 2007 version.

Kids have been fine using the free version of AVG but I'm not sure I would'nt want a bit more and a more sophisitcated firewall than the XP offering. I occasionally connect via wi-fi hotspots, hotel bedroom connections etc. or dial up so lack the protection of the hardware firewall in the Belkin ADSL modem wi-fi thingummy at home.

Is Kaspersky any good - version on offer in local retail warehouse today seemed good value and includes the ad-blocker.

Thanks in anticiaption
Security Software - Recommendations Sought - JH
B,
yes. Or more fully... I've been using Kaspresky Internet Security for about a year now and I'm happy with it. I paid about £5 by buying an OEM copy. The latest version appears to use a lot less resource than the previous one and it's PC Pro's internet security product of choice.

By all acounts you may have trouble persuading NIS to leave though!

Why not download the free trial and see for yourself before committing?

JH

Edited by JH on 07/09/2008 at 19:19

Security Software - Recommendations Sought - Altea Ego
>occasionally connect via wi-fi hotspots, hotel bedroom connections etc. or dial up so lack >the protection of the hardware firewall in the Belkin ADSL modem wi-fi thingummy at home

No but they have a much better firewall than your belkin thingamummy at home.

The windows sp2 firewall is sufficient, as is MS defender. All free and supported and current.
All you need is a AV programe.
Security Software - Recommendations Sought - melstin
I'm an IT professional and at home I use AVG free, Spybot and Sygate personal firewall. All of these work very well and they are free available from FileHippo.

For the internet I use Firefox, with Adblocker Flashblock and Sandboxie Control, all of which available for free.

All routers, unlike modems, have a feature called address translation, whereby the IP address visible by everyone on the internet is translated into an internal one, which is not visible from the outside world.

Sometimes I get involved with domestic PC's issues and I have to say that 95% of all the problems I encounter are caused by users failing to ensure that both antivirus and antispyware programs are up to date. There is also the need to do a scan every now and then.

You can learn an awful lot as to how works and doesn't from this place:

www.theregister.co.uk/security/
Security Software - Recommendations Sought - Stuartli
There's also:

www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/resul...p

I use Comodo Firewall Pro (freeware) after discovering it outperforms ZoneAlarm, which I had relied on for many years.
Security Software - Recommendations Sought - Dog
I've used Norton + Lone-Alarm + AVG freebie, I'm now using PC Tools security suite, which I downloaded from Computer Active mag ... The full security suite is no longer available free I believe.
I'm so pleased with this security suite that I might bung them a few quid when my freebie expires.

Dog.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - FotheringtonThomas
Wanted, a portable computer disk, 250GB+, pref. USB powered, cheap. Any recommenations?

Edited by FotheringtonThomas on 10/09/2008 at 13:40

Portable computer disk recommendation? - Stuartli
One of the Seagate/Maxtor models will prove satisfactory, such as this example:

www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=736361

Other possibilities:

www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-19-409-0

I have a 400GB Seagate One Touch external drive which I use for regular backups. It uses BounceBack Express software for backup purposes, but you could also consider Karen Kenworthy's excellent freeware example from:

www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp

Just had notification of this offer:

www.ebuyer.com/product/136212

Edited by Stuartli on 10/09/2008 at 13:59

Portable computer disk recommendation? - smokie
If you want USB powered then you will usually be looking at a 2.5" drive not a 3.5" - most of which require external power adapters which reduces portability. here's a pageful - eBuyer are generally fairly good in my experience, and delivery is free over £50.

www.ebuyer.com/cat/Hard-Drives/subcat/External-Por...s
Portable computer disk recommendation? - Altea Ego
you can get some external portable drives that use TWO USB ports to derive enough power without needing a power supply.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - rtj70
An external 2.5" drive has the advantage of being lighter. Capacities have gone up so you can get one in the size you require. But you'll either pay more for the convenience or get lower capacity than one would from a 3.5" drive.

I would not call a 3.5" based external drive portable. Just picked up one for work which is quite small and has an inbuilt USB connector and it is apparently shock resistant - I won't test it just yet. It's a freecom ToughDrive but only 120Gb (but costs about £45).
Portable computer disk recommendation? - Stuartli
My Seagate is perfectly portable if required - it's very little larger than the disk platter overall.

Unfortunately this particular model seems to have been discontinued after the arrival of the ESATA 500GB version. See:

www.ciao.co.uk/Seagate_Hard_drive_400_GB__6464247

for an illustration.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - FotheringtonThomas
eBuyer are generally fairly good in my experience and delivery is free
over £50.


Bother. After perusing various posted links, I purchased a LaCie 320GB (with bundled S/W) from Dabs. I've been done. I have *wasted* a potential couple of pints, or three. Oh! Calamity!
Portable computer disk recommendation? - rtj70
And if those pints could have been at a pub... lost income = leading to recession. You should be embarrased.

Assume you bought something like this but via dabs cheaper:

tinyurl.com/5zhzjk

I'm not pushing MD but they are my nearest. Ironically the parent company I work for does portable 2.5" external USB drives and yet my bit of the company buy Freecom which I think uses Seagate drives. Madness.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - rtj70
And powered off I've tested the solidity of the drive. Just given the outside a good bashing when off! Really. Still working. Tried it again (it's not mine) powered up and still working.

Test was take the drive and hit the desk side on with it four times powered on and off. Data also on other systems at the moment. But it works....
Portable computer disk recommendation? - ifithelps
...a portable computer disk, 250GB+, pref...

Can't imagine how anyone could need that much storage.

My company recently changed my desktop and my output over the last eight years fitted - easily - onto a 1GB memory stick.

Perhaps I need to work a bit harder....

Edited by ifithelps on 10/09/2008 at 21:00

Portable computer disk recommendation? - smokie
My work lappy has a 40Gb drive which, with about 7 years of project stuff on, is only about 75% full.

But the home computer is a different matter. Internal storage totalling 800Gb, plus 1 x 1Tb USB drive for "media storage" which is around 3/4 full, another 1 Tb to backup the first one to and a 500Gb USB drive to hold the backups and disk images of the 5 computers we have around the house. Oh, and I only have about 3 DVDs on hard disc, which is what really gobbles it up. The bulk of it is music...

Not sure I could play harder... ;-)

Portable computer disk recommendation? - Stuartli
The problem with storing a lot of music is that you never really get a chance to listen to it, as you are so busy recording even more...:-)

I have several hundred YouTube musicals videos on my hard drive (downloaded using Save2PC), yet rarely manage to watch more than half-a-dozen or so a week.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - rtj70
My previous iPod was an old 20Gb item. Now an iPod Touch 16Gb. To fit some files on like video I manage the music on it. And still I listen to only some of it. To have all your music available is just silly. The idea when they were 5Gb maybe but the Classic was available as 160GB until the new one (120Gb).

... who can listen to or view that sort of music/video. Putting on favorites and some extras does me. I have music I will never listen to probably.
Portable computer disk recommendation? - rtj70
My music files are about 25Gb, some video (lots more never sorted out yet from camcorder) easily more than that, and pictures about 30Gb (current camera a 10MP dSLR). Ordnance survey maps for MemoryMap about 4Gb.... the list goes on.

So I have a need personally for lots of storage. Work wise there are virtual systems in VMWARE but ignoring them.... 10Gb should do it ;-)
Portable computer disk recommendation? - SpamCan61 {P}

>
My company recently changed my desktop and my output over the last eight years fitted
- easily - onto a 1GB memory stick.
Perhaps I need to work a bit harder....


LOL...you need to add more stiupidly high resolution images to documents, easy to turn a 100K document of useful information into a 10Mb monster that won't email that way. Well that's what mot folk do where I work anyway ...

Thinking about it most of the work on my laptop would probably fit in 1GB, most stuff is stored on remoe servers anyway. At home then a different matter, video at 2GB per hour soon eats up a hard drive!
Portable computer disk recommendation? - Stuartli
>>..various posted links, I purchased a LaCie 320GB>>

To make you even more annoyed.....:-)

www.ebuyer.com/special/1746?eblt=main_banner
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
SWMBO was given a new laptop by her employers. It hasn't got a dedicated printer socket, only USBs.

I bought a USB to parallel printer cable, which included a mini CD.

The CD doesn't 'auto start' when I insert it, but after exploring it I found several 'set up' files which I loaded.

I can't print. All I get is a communication error.

I've removed and re-installed the set up files, I've re-booted and unplugged the printer all several times.

The printer works fine to other PCs.

I went to bed last night (this morning) in a foul mood!

I'm running XP professional, the printer's an old Epson stylus colour 480.

Any suggestions please to a non-expert?
USB to parallel printer cable - Pugugly
Administrator's permission required ?
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
Sorry PU, can you expand that please.
USB to parallel printer cable - Pugugly
On my work Laptop you need admin rights to be able to add software, maybe that's the case.
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
It let me add the printer driver without any apparent problems. That and another couple of icons related to the printer cable driver have appeared on the desktop.

I haven't had any messages other than :
A communication error has occurred.
Click OK and then check the interface cable type, all cable connections and make sure that all devices are on. If the error persists, unplug the printer then plug it in again.
USB to parallel printer cable - Pugugly
Try downloading fresh driver's from t'internet. What is the connection is it USB both ends ?

I would remove the software you loaded, install the driver from the web, try to plug and play it thereafter.

Edited by Pugugly on 14/09/2008 at 12:24

USB to parallel printer cable - Stuartli
Normally with USB devices you have to install drivers etc first, but you seem to have done this already.

If the printer is detailed in Device Manager, try Uninstalling it and then Rebooting - Windows should Find New Hardware and you can then direct it to the drivers' source using Browse when requested.
USB to parallel printer cable - Pugugly
My reading for the post was that the CD came with the cable - don't understand that.
USB to parallel printer cable - Altea Ego
My reading for the post was that the CD came with the cable - don't
understand that.

Because they are unsupported devices, makers have to provide the drivers with the cable.
USB to parallel printer cable - Altea Ego
Serial to USB cables and drivers are flakey at the best of times and were only invented as a cludge to overcome a transition or provide UNSUPPORTED support for old serial devices.

The answer is to dump the serial printer. It should now be considered unsupported technology. You may not like the answer, but its the technically correct one.
USB to parallel printer cable - ifithelps
The answer is to dump the serial printer. It should now be considered unsupported technology.>>


You can still download a driver from the Epson website, which is support, surely?

My work printer is an ancient Colour Stylus 640 or 740.

It only now works in "black and white", but it's in an office, not a playpen, so the lack of colour doesn't matter.

When my spankers new Dell desktop was installed, our IT man downloaded a driver to make the old printer work.

He would have had 'administrator status' so, as has been said earlier, the download route might not work for the OP.
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
>>The answer is to dump the serial printer.

I thought that would be the answer when I first saw her new laptop, but I kept quiet until she wanted to print something.

The USB to parallel lead and CD were a fraction of the cost of a new printer, so I thought it was worth a punt. I'm also looking at a pile of five new black and five new colour cartridges - I saw them going cheap! I suppose there's always Freecycle.
USB to parallel printer cable - Altea Ego
You can still download a driver from the Epson website which is support surely?


No its not - the driver was written for a physical printer port configured in a particular way. Some of that physical configuration is not availble on a USB/parralell converter
You are now at the mercy of THREE device drivers. The printer one, the built on OS support for parralel devices and a cludgy device driver written by the makers of the cable

The cludgy one is not supported. by anyone. MS or the Printer makers. parrallel printers are unsupported devices on machines that dont have a physical serial port. It may work it may not work but you have no comeback or guarantee of a full solution.

Edited by Altea Ego on 14/09/2008 at 13:27

USB to parallel printer cable - ifithelps
I knew I shouldn't have tried to reply to a computer question. :)

What does cludgy mean? Sounds like a good word to me.
USB to parallel printer cable - NorfolkDriver
If you go into Control panel and then Printers then click on Ports, which port is the printer currently pointing at?

If its the LPT1, change it to USB.

I have only played with one of these devices once (USB to LPT) and that worked first time.

USB to parallel printer cable - Stuartli
You can also configure the port by going to Start>Settings>Printers and Faxes>highlight the printer>right click>Properties>Ports tab (a list of the ports will appear; tick USB).

I've also only used one of these Serial-USB cables in the past (on a mate's business system) and it worked OK.
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
I was there (about 2.00AM I think). I configured the port, but couldn't find my exact printer model, so I tried a few close ones. In the end I reverted to re-loading the driver from my original printer disc with the USB port option.
USB to parallel printer cable - Another John H
Has the admin disabled the USB hardware on the laptop?

If a USB stick doesn't work on the laptop, it's probably been knobbled as company policy.

In that case it is probably P45 territory to enable it. (and the BIOS settings will be password protected.)
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
Mouse and modem use USBs.

I managed to print what she wanted by copying it to a memory stick via USB, and then using (very) old laptop connected to printer to print from memory stick.
USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
If it's a work laptop, what make is it? When we get laptops we also get a docking station (or port replicator). My current laptop does not have parallel or serial ports but the ports replicator provides these with an additional 4 USB ports, a separate higher powered PSU (to handle USB powered devices), a video and DVI/HDMI port, LAN, Firewire and proper PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports etc.

Can she now ask for a port replicator for home? Then she might get a supported parallel port? My laptop certainly supports it in the BIOS but physically only has it when docked.

Rob

Edited by rtj70 on 14/09/2008 at 23:25

USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
Docking station? Don't make me laugh.

When this laptop arrived it had XP professional loaded that wouldn't support tabbed browsing. The first few days connected to the electric web thingmy were taken up with downloads. I can't imagine where they got them from.
USB to parallel printer cable - Altea Ego
Docking station? Don't make me laugh.
When this laptop arrived it had XP professional loaded that wouldn't support tabbed browsing. The


Cos windows XP prof standard build (probably xp with sp2 slipstreamed) didnt have IE with tabbed browsing.
USB to parallel printer cable - cheddar
IIRC even XP SP3 has IE6 not IE7 I guess so Vista has more of a differential though IE7 is offered by Windows Update to any SP2 or SP3 XP machine, XP Pro SP3 with IE7 is the best combo currently IMO.

EDIT: IMO added.

Edited by cheddar on 15/09/2008 at 00:13

USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
If a work laptop is it supported centrally and are there any web based applications (e.g. expenses or timesheets)? If yes do not think you should/can change anyway. Check employment contract etc. It's not your laptop.

I work for a large IT company and current standard build is XP Professional (32-bit) with IE6. We have some web apps we need to use that still need updating. So a new laptop (I got one a few weeks back) is not running the latest software.

I am happy however it is not Vista or XP/IE7! Quite nice having over 3Gb RAM and a 2GHz dual Core Intel CPU.

If I did upgrade to IE7 I could but if the apps I need to use (mobile phone reimbursement, timesheet, holidays, resource request, change management, etc.) did not work... I have a problem. Most if not all do work (tried it once) but there is an IT policy.
USB to parallel printer cable - Stuartli
>>didnt have IE with tabbed browsing.>>

See:

tinyurl.com/5mjulw
USB to parallel printer cable - cheddar
>>didnt have IE with tabbed browsing.>>


My point above was that XP SP3 has IE6 not IE7 so Vista has more of a differential though IE7 is offered by Windows Update to any SP2 or SP3 XP machine.

USB to parallel printer cable - Stuartli
>>My point above..>>

My point, equally, was confirmation of the fact that SP3 (surprisingly) only offers IE6.
USB to parallel printer cable - cheddar
the fact that SP3 (surprisingly) only offers IE6.>>


Perhaps not surprisingly, XP is still in great demand particularly in the corporate world, IE7 gives MS an added reason to present Vista as a premium product.
USB to parallel printer cable - Stuartli
XP is still in great demand particularly in the corporate world,>>


That's true. In fact the younger offspring, an IT network support specialist, is scathing about Vista....:-)

Not surprising in this case, especially with the problems many have, for instance, with Vista for networking and flash cards use.

Edited by Stuartli on 15/09/2008 at 14:17

USB to parallel printer cable - Altea Ego
In my neck of the "IT support specialist world" vista is now reckoned to be stable, and most companies are now starting to employ small scale test deployments. There is now nothing "scathing" about Vista.

I personaly have installed several dozen "vistas" and once patched to SP1 levels they are stable resilient and just as fast as XP (albeit requiring more hardware horsepower)

Vista is now as good as XP, and very much more secure.
USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
"It hasn't got a dedicated printer socket"

Try buying a new printer with a parallel interface ;-) The new laptop/PC printer interface is either USB or wireless. The laptop has the ability to print. Your printer does not have the ability to serve.

Can she not get a printer from work being a home/mobile worker. Or is the employer a skin flint.

Edited by rtj70 on 15/09/2008 at 01:58

USB to parallel printer cable - SpamCan61 {P}
SWMBO's Dell 5150 ( USB only) is connected to an ancient Epson 400 via a Belkin USB -Parallel converter, this works fine about 90% of the time and prints pages of gibberish characters the other 10% :-/
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
I can't see her getting a printer from work, the laptop's more a perk than a necessity.

I suppose it'll learn me for buying the cheapest. I'll have to fork out another tenner for something that works.
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
I've just been looking at one of the following questions: Printer Advice please.

There's my answer. Canon MP210. Thirty seven quid on Amazon, with free delivery and fifteen quid cashback. Why am I faffing about with cables and drivers?
USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
I've just had a close look at what's included, and there doesn't appear to be a connection lead. D'yer think a cheap one will do? ;>)
USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
"D'yer think a cheap one will do?"

USB is digital so yes a cheap USB cable will do - it either works or doesn't.

There's quite a few of us on here who have been thinking why you've been trying to get an old printer working. Apart from the time the cost of a cheap printer is about the same as the cable - and the cheapest is probably better than your old one ;-)

If you don't need the scanner functionality, then for a little more there are some brilliant Canon printers out there. I am still very please with my old Canon Pixma iP5000 which does lots, e.g.

- print on printable disks
- two paper feeds (useful tray underneath)
- duplex (i.e. double sided) printing
- cheap to run
- print from a camera/phone directly using PICTBridge.
- absolutely stunning quality on photos - not that I print many

Replacement models cost a lot less than I paid too.
USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
I should have added Canon printers are renowned for being cheaper to run. Cartridges on mine are clear plastic so you know if there's ink or not. And mine has separate cartridges for:

- Black for text (bigger cartridge and cheaper ink)
- Photo Black
- Cyan
- Magenta
- Yellow

The printer you refer to uses a single cartridge for colour so when one colour runs out you replace it completely. And if I remember right (I got one for the mother in law ages ago in Tesco) it is not transparent.

I personally would pay the extra for a Canon Pixma iP4500 (or better). About £60 on Amazon. Unless you need the scanner.

EDIT: And the ink cartridges and print head are combined on the MP610 (like HP does) so not as cheap as the cartridges used elsewhere on Canon printers. Print head is separate. And mine is still going strong. Maybe this is why it's cheap. Like HP they will make the money back on the ink/print-head cartridges.

EDIT2: Sorry but had to say the cartridges it comes with are lower capacity ones too... so how much printing do you expect to do? The more expensive iP4500 could be cheaper to run.

Edited by rtj70 on 15/09/2008 at 18:35

USB to parallel printer cable - bathtub tom
>>D'yer think a cheap one will do? ;>)

Was meant to be ironic! Hence the smiley. I'm still smiling.

We do very little printing at home. If she's got much to print off she does it at work on much faster printers.

Thanks everyone for your input.
USB to parallel printer cable - rtj70
My advise was given in case others needed it ;-) It will be useful when someone does a forum search in the future too. Oh hang on too few search first ;-)

Cannot comment on how long the cartridges in the MP610 last (mother in law prints very little) but my iP5000 lasts forever on a set. Far better than the HP printer I had before. In fact I got rid of that because a high capacity tri-colour cartridge was way too expensive.
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Printer Advice please - BobbyG
Looking for an all-in-one printer/scanner/ copier for use with home computer, low usage, kids homework , occasional email, maybe use it for printing the occasional photo as well.

Now they all seem to be much of a muchness but I know the big cost of printers is usually the ink so is there a make of printer which is known to be substantially cheaper for ink cartridges?

I am looking to spend no more than £75, £50 preferable. At that price is there any printer that is recommended over another? Should I just go into Tesco and pick up whatever one is on offer?
Printer Advice please - Statistical outlier
Canon printers come recommended. Much cheaper to run, and much less prone to the print heads drying up than some others. Also has the bonus that the ink tanks are just that. just tanks. In mist cases there is no chip to prevent you refilling them, and you can use an outfit like CartridgeWorld to refill most cartriges 3 or 4 times without risk.

Disclaimer: I worked for Cartridgeworld for a time, but only as a skivvy, and haven't for years; can thoroughly recommend them.
Printer Advice please - Stuartli
You can still buy the basic Canon MP210 for around £30-£35 and then claim £15 cash back from Canon...:-).

This is similar to the offers earlier this year pricing the Canon at around £20, but with no cash back.

See:

www.canon.co.uk/mp210cashback/

www.ebuyer.com/product/132443

Tesco was also selling the excellent Epson DX440 for £30 in its stores - could still be some around.

Cheapest place I've found for cartridges, including compatibles, is:

www.diskdepot.co.uk

Buy two or three sets to make the most of the delivery charge.

Edited by Stuartli on 15/09/2008 at 13:01

Printer Advice please - Altea Ego
One of the Canon MPxx range will fit the bill. I have an MP30 - best printer I have had and les prone to gumming up the heads (like all my previous epsons did)

Avoid Lexmark. Nasty things with expensive ink.
Printer Advice please - BobbyG
Cheers for that advice, just ordered the Canon one from Dabs for £42, then I will get the £15 cashback so feel I can't really go too far wrong with a £27 Canon printer!

Thanks once again.
Printer Advice please - rtj70
Unless you print lots. The MP210 uses a combined 3-colour cartridge/print head and it's quite small. The more expensive printers use separate ink tanks and the print head is not included. In the long run it could work out more expensive to run than a more expensive Canon product.

I have recommended Canon lots but my Pixma iP5000 has 5 cartridges including a high capacity pigment ink for text.