Computer Related Questions - Volume 98 - Dynamic Dave

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Clearing Google search history - Armitage Shanks {p}
Good Morning. At home I can clear my goodle search history either by clearing up old files at the end of the day or going into a drop down menu within Google and selecting 'Clear History' - no problem. At work we have a networked computer which is used by a number of different people, 18 hours a day. When accessing Google, as soon as one types in one letter of a search, a menu appears offering to auto-fill the search, offering a selection of all searches ever done, with that starting letter. This must be tying up a lot of space in the computer but there is no option anywhere, that we can find, to clear this auot fill facility. Bearing in mind it is on a network, we perhaps have to get the Administrator to do it? Any help would be welcome.
Clearing Google search history - adverse camber
It isnt going to be using much space.

You can clear it - it will be in the browser options clear form data or similar.

in firefox
tools->options->privacy->saved forms

The usual reason to want to clear this is because of embarassing entries in the list ?

Clearing Google search history - Armitage Shanks {p}
Thanks! Yes some 'awkward' searches have appeared for which we blame the bored and under worked night shift, natch!
Clearing Google search history - smokie
"bored and under worked night shift" - I remember that from a previous job. The IT dept thought that half of a department was gay as there was evidence in abundance on three or four computers (cookies and browsing history etc). When investigated, it was found to be the overnight operator, who thought he was being smart by using others' desktops instead of his own - but he didn't consider the date & time stamps on the files...
Clearing Google search history - Stuartli
As mark99 rightly points out it isn't going to be using much space - in fact as it's text it will be very small indeed.

If you use IE, go to Tools>General tab>History and Delete from there; also set days to retain History to 0 or 1 to have them removed automatically after that period.

Re the automatic completion of URLs, this is tied up with Word (or whatever word processor you use) in the form of AutoComplete. To adjust settings in IE go to Tools>Internet Options>Content tab>Personal Information>Click on AutoComplete>choose or delete the options required.

However, using History's Delete After (so many days) will get rid of entries after a period you decide

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Clearing Google search history - cheddar
If you highlight one of the entries and hit Ctrl-Delete you can remove them one at a time.
Clearing Google search history - cheddar
Sorry, just to say that is in IE6.
Clearing Google search history - Manatee
CCleaner can be set up to clear Google search history, internet caches, recent file lists etc and can also be set to run whenever the computer is restarted. I has never caused me a problem that I know about.

www.ccleaner.com
CCTV help - Pugugly {P}
This is not me being my usual materialisitic gadget orientated self. As an office we're buying a security system for a local charity, we've funded some pretty trendy digital recording kit for their CCTV system and have now agreed to upgrade their monitor. I'm looking for pretty specialist IT advice here, I want them to have an LCD screen, apparantly the kit has the capability to link via a std VGA connection but most definately has an AV connection (the type you twist to lock) any idea of a monitor that has this type of input.......I know that this will work without messing around with computer connections, so basically it's a small TV type monitor.
CCTV help - Altea Ego
You are very unlikely to find a standard lcd screen that has anything other than a standard VGA connector or standard VGA and DVI connector

If you let me know the name and model of the kit you are talking about I can tell you what you need.
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CCTV help - Pugugly {P}
Cheers TVM I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'll get it tomorrow.

PU
CCTV help - psi
I am assuming I know what connector you mean, thinking back to my CCTV at work
tinyurl.com/m9z39
CCTV help - Pugugly {P}
Spot on. Thanks for that.
Help! Spam - Robbie
How can I prevent spam which is now really getting to me?

The worst culprit is an American site that is trying to get me to buy worthless American stocks. I have tried using "Message Rules" in I.E. but it is still getting through. Blocking sender doesn't work because they use multiple addresses.

Any suggestions?

{Moved to the right part of the thread, as per the "PLEASE NOTE" message at the start of this thread - DD}
Help! Spam - arnold2
This is the best:

spamassassin.apache.org

Not too easy to configure; used by the best mail server/s (won't tell you that on their sites, though!) ....
Help! Spam - Stuartli
Switch to Mozilla Thunderbird and "train" its Junk filter to send such e-mails direct to the Junk folder.

You can import all your Outlook Express settings and configuration to Thunderbird very easily (but ensure that you leave OE as the Default e-mail program initially until TB is installed).

I'm assuming you use OE...:-)
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Help! Spam - Dalglish
How can I prevent spam which is now really getting to me?


maybe not the answer you want to hear, but:

1. get yourself new email addresses (made up using a mixture of numbers and characters in addition to alphabetic letters).
2. keep them entirely separate for your personal, business, forums, etc. uses. so you know the source of leaks.
3. be prepared to start all over again when an address gets on spammer's list.
4. use the isp's filters or the email provider's filters (eg. hotmail, yahoo, etc.) to restrict emails to aprroved "whitelists" in addition to a blacklist.

Help! Spam - bell boy
my advice is have many email addresses from different sources that way you can keep your bestest ones for business and your unimportant ones for sites like this (sorry hj nothing personal)
Help! Spam - Armitage Shanks {p}
Check out Spamex.com. I think it is $20 a year for 1000 'disposable' addresses. use what you like and if anyone spams you thru one, delete it and pick up another. You only reveal you true address to log in and geberate the dispoable addresses.
Media Player recommendations - Chicken Vindaloo
My fellow Backroomers,

Does anyone have any experience of mp3/wma etc players which plug into HiFis and play tracks at random until the cows come home? I ask because I have just replaced SWMBO's Linksys WMA11B with a Freecom MediaPlayer-3. She has a Linksys wireless network based around a WRT54GS. The tracks which the WMA11B played were stored on her eldest offspring's PC. All was well until he decided to do something typically teenager-ish like watch videos from YouTube. This meant that the music via the WMA11B broke up like there was no tomorrow.

Whilst looking for some new blank DVDs on SVP's site, I noticed that under their Gadgets section, they were selling an 80MB Freecom MediaPlayer-3 for a reasonable price. It's a self-contained unit and the reviews seemed positive so I took the plunge. Whilst it is an impressive piece of kit, it does have two rather significant drawbacks. Firstly the LCD screen which shows what's playing is tiny and for an old man like me, is difficult to read. The onboard screen was a selling point over the WMA11B which we had to plug into a TV to see what was what. Secondly, the noise of the onboard fan is very intrusive. Thirdly (there are three drawbacks, not two!), if you have copied 8,500 album tracks to it, it doesn't seem to want to play EVERYTHING randomly like the WMA11B did - it will only play tracks in any one directory randomly. It can allegedly process playlists but Freecom support have so far taken three days to think about my email asking exactly how.

Has anyone out there got a MediaPlayer-3? If so, how do you feel about it? It seems to me to be a nicely executed idea, but like the WMA11B, the designers didn't think it through all the way. Is there anything else out there which would fit the bill? I'm not too fussed whether it's a wireless device or one which you update via USB.

All the best,
CV

P.S. The WMA11B is now chez moi and running very nicely indeed!
Media Player recommendations - Stuartli
Still puzzled as to why you would want 8,500 tracks to play at random and also just how you would find the time to listen to them, never mind collect and transfer them in the first place..:-)
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Media Player recommendations - Altea Ego
Yes with 8500 random tracks there is a chance you willl never hear some of them ever again before the grim reaper comes to take you away.
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Media Player recommendations - Chicken Vindaloo
"Still puzzled as to why you would want 8,500 tracks to play at random and also just how you would find the time to listen to them, never mind collect and transfer them in the first place..:-)"

I hate a quiet house and it's always a chore to go through the "what shall I listen to tonight?" routine. Radio (esp Radio 2) is dreadful - the same tired playlist along with "Brown Eyed Girl"/"Sultans of Swing"/"(Come up and see me) Make me Smile"/etc played ad nauseum. Having my own music streaming randomly gets rid of that, plus it also introduces songs that I've not heard before, i.e. on the albums I've bought for just one song and not bothered to listen to the rest.

Before I took the plunge and started copying all my CDs to HDD, I was a bit sceptical about the value of the exercise, but I am pleased I did it. Once I've decided on which route to take iPod/Other Portable Media Player-wise, I'll be well placed to listen to whatever I like in the car or on the move.

Hope this helps explain my initial request!

Cheers,
CV
Media Player recommendations - Mutton Geoff
Before using Windows Media Player or iTunes to rip your CD's, can I strongly recommend a read of Chris Mydens excellent bestMP3guide.com website? Since using his method, I have created MP3 files that are virtually indisguishable from the originals yet 1/8 of the size.

Media Player recommendations - daveyjp
I have a Sony MP3 player with about 5,000 tracks. It can be set to play randomly, doing this does drain the battery more quickly than simply playing tracks as it has to spin up the HD after every track to play the next one. I connect it to a Bose Soundwave system and it works a treat.
Media Player recommendations - BazzaBear {P}
What you're looking for is a Music server. Exaclt the same as your Linksys WMA11B (or the Roku sundbridge I have), with the exception that they have their own storage so there's no ned to have a computer on elsewhere in the house, and no problems caused by network issues.
The Hifi manufacturers themselves are starting to get wise to this segment of the market, so you can get things like this:
www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=39
which has the advantages of fitting in with teh style of a hifi set up and being created by and for audiophiles rather than computer geeks.
Not cheap though, that one is based on the 640C CD-player which sells for £250, and costs £600. That's a lot of money for a hard-drive.

To approach it from another direction, perhaps the dropouts you're suffering if the computer is used for anything else could be solved by re-siting the wireless hub?
I had some issues with my Soundbridge when I first got it, but having found a better position for the hub I can now play my music collection from the computer (on random, I know where you're coming from even if others don't!) with no dropouts regardless of what I'm doing on the computer (playing very demanding games, surfing the internet, ripping music CD's, playing video from the 'net).
1.eTrust + AVG ok? 2.MS Security Update - andymc {P}
Hi all, three questions really but didn't have enough room in the subject line! Machine is a PC running Windows XP.

1.
My dad has had some trouble with this PC (the one I'm sitting at now) since he bought it some months ago from a well-known retailer in the RoI. He's fairly PC-illiterate, so I'm trying to help out where I can.
When I was last visiting he told me the machine was running very slowly (programmes taking twenty minutes to load, etc) and wondered if there might be a virus on it. I checked to see what AV software he was using but there was actually nothing of the sort installed, and no CDs/documentation etc to indicate that anything was bundled with the PC. I downloaded AVG, but the machine was still running very slow. A few weeks after I left, the whole machine locked up on him - wouldn't even start up. He contacted customer "services" but had a fair bit of aggro getting it picked up and eventually returned in working order.

It's now back with him and so far seems to be running fairly normally. The AVG I downloaded is still there, but there's now an installer for another AV programme which wasn't there before, called eTrustAntiVirus. I should point out that only the installer icon is on the desktop, in other words eTrust hasn't actually been installed yet. I'm reluctant to activate it in case it somehow conflicts with the AVG, causing a whole other set of problems. As an aside, part of me wonders was this supposed to have been pre-installed all along but missed out, and did the PC get hit with a virus which caused the early problems. Guess I'll never know!

Anyway - does anybody know anything about eTrust - is it much good, is it a better AV programme than AVG, should I uninstall either of them, leave both of them alone?

2.
There's a little yellow shield with an exclamation mark in the middle down in the right hand side of the taskbar - I'm pretty sure it's the icon for MS Security Update (isn't it?). When I hover the mouse pointer over it, a little text box appears, saying "Downloading updates - 23%". It's been saying that since yesterday, so obviously the updates aren't getting through. Neither double-clicking nor right-clicking on the icon make anything happen at all. Any suggestions as to the best course of action - should I ignore it, should I look for an up-to-date download from Microsoft, anything else?

3.
This may or may not be related to either of the above.
Yesterday, I had downloaded a backlog of updates for the AVG (it was the first time the PC had been connected to the internet since it came back from the supplier, so there were quite a few update files). It didn't indicate that the machine had to be restarted for the files to complete installation.
After that, the machine was left on all day, but after I went out that evening, my dad tried to shut it down - except that it wouldn't. It got part way through the shutdown process, then on the blue Windows screen (not "bluescreen", just the normal screen you see at startup and shutdown on Win XP) it displayed the message "Installing update 1 of 5". It sat like that for several hours. When I got home, I tried Ctrl/Alt/Del a few times , but it just returned to the same screen. As it obviously wasn't going anywhere after 4 hours, I pressed and held in the on/off button as a last resort. The machine was already on when I got up this morning, so I didn't get to see if any similar messages came up. It appears to be running normally at the moment.
Is it likely that the AVG update files would have caused this, or the MS Security Update, or is there a way of checking for anything else?

I'm only staying with my dad for a couple more days, so I'd like to get this sorted for him and leave him with a smoothly running machine, as I won't always be here to help him out. On behalf of my dad and me, thanks very much for any suggestions!
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andymc
Vroom, vroom - mmm, doughnuts ...
1.eTrust + AVG ok? 2.MS Security Update - psi
1. Leave AVG as it is.
2. Go into Internet Explorer ---> Tools ----> Windows Update and run the updates (you are right about the yellow tray icon) manually.
3. That is related to Windows Update, not your A/V. See 2 above for the solution.
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Mazda-Man
Hi all - an easy question I hope :)

Just bought a USB wireless multimedia keyboard and mouse for another PC which is running XP SP2

Read the 'japachinenglish' instructions and it says I have to uninstall the current keyboard/mouse software on the PC before loading the new stuff. Is this true or is it only applicable to W98? The instructions provided really aren't clear.

I'd hoped it'd be a simple plug and go exercise and am a bit concerned about being left with no way of controlling my PC if I uninstall the current keyboard/mouse and then do something wrong.

Remember you're dealing with a novice here so please be gentle with me :)

Cheers guys!
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Peter D
If the keyboard uses USB then no need to uninstall anything. Rememer that you can not get into the set up menus and bios using a wireless kayboard as it does not turn the link on until the machine has booted. Regards Peter
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Stuartli
for another PC which is running XP SP2>>


You can either install the supplied drivers (do this first as it's a USB set) or shut down the system, connect the keyboard and mouse, and then reboot. The Windows XP mouse drivers will probably cover all the features you require (it does for my set) and these will be installed after bootup as Windows "Finds New Hardware."

You will most likely have to push the relevant buttons on the transmitter and the keyboard and mouse in a certain order before being able to use them; this is to configure the wireless side. Details will be in the manual for the set.
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Stuartli
PS

To follow up Peter D's point, it's worth keeping a corded keyboard and mouse handy just in case you ever need to go into the Bios or have problems with the wireless versions (not unknown, or you might experience flat batteries and have no replacements)
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Mazda-Man
Cheers guys - excellent point about keeping the corded keyboard and mouse. Nobody ever told me that!

So just to recap cos I'm thick. I load the drivers supplied (that's no problem as I have the disc) using the old keyboard/mouse then I switch off the PC, disconnect the orginal equipment, connect the new cordless stuff and switch on again?

If something goes wrong, however, and I can't get the new hardware to work for some reason, how do I reconnect the old stuff?

Cheers!
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Stuartli
Using the PS/2 ports to which they are currently attached (colour coded green and purple).

The best way to start with the new keyboard and mouse is to read the instructions first...:-)
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Citroënian {P}
I'd try another way - assuming you're not running '98.

Plug the receiver into the USB port on the computer and try the mouse and keyboard to see if they work. You might be surprised. IF they do, unplug the current mouse and keyboard and see if they still work. If they do, put the old ones somewhere safe as Stuart usefully suggests!

If you're feeling cautious, take a system state snapshot (via START - Help - etc) so you can roll back to the current point if it all goes terribly wrong (remembering to unplug the new and replug the old to do the restore!)


-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Stuartli
>>system state snapshot>>

Are you thinking of System Restore?

If so it's via Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Restore.

I don't think you will be able to use two keyboards and a mouse at the same time, although as you point out the two may work just by being plugged in as the drivers will already have been installed.

My wireless keyboard and optical mouse work using the PS/2 ports (the keyboard connection has a USB/PS/2 adapter) and the mouse's short connection runs alongside it to its port.

I've tried using a rear panel USB port for the keyboard and the PS/2 port for the mouse but it just freezes both of them...:-)
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Citroënian {P}
>>Are you thinking of System Restore?

Yes, that's it thanks! Couldn't recall the name last night!

It's pot luck with the double keyboard mouse thing, but I know that my Dell Dimension 4300 will run both if plugged in (one USb/one PS2) - at least in Windows. Quite interesting to move both mice together!!


-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Altea Ego
you can run loads of keyboards/mice under certain circumastances.

You can run ps/2 style keyboards/mice and 1 set usb keyboards/mice together as they use different interfaces.

You can also add extra usb combos, as long as you use a different root hub. That could be an extra smart hub or an additional interface card

I have had 4 keyboards running

Yes sad I know
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Stuartli
>>as long as you use a different root hub>>

I have my cheap, long standing but reliable four port USB1.1 powered hub attached to a USB2 port - I attach USB1.1 devices to it to save USB2 ports for devices that benefit from them.
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Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Mazda-Man
Thanks guys. Have just re-read this thread and realised I haven't necessarily made myself entirely clear. The current keyboard and mouse are actually USB corded devices so does that alter any of the advice so kindly given?

Cheers :)
Installing new RF keyboard & Mouse - Citroënian {P}
I'd do the System Restore thing Stuart describes then just plug them in. See what happens!


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Locating my ISP - Armitage Shanks {p}
I have an ISP No which is apparently issued to many people who use AOL. Having put it into Google I was then offered the facility of locating it on Get Mapping thru a web site called the Internet Frog. This came up with a location in Buckinghamshire, near Bledlow Ridge and a very accurate Lat and Long. When I put this into Google Earth it took me to the right part of the country but to an empty field about 100 yards from3 very expensive looking farmhouses! I would have thought an AOL facility would have been a big industrial building with a lot of cars parked out side it! Any ideas? The location is

N 51.6667 W 0.8333 - very accurate but nothing there!
Locating my ISP - psi
what's the number?
Locating my ISP - Adam {P}
Maybe it's a secret underground bunker.
Locating my ISP - psi
or this: tinyurl.com/rmb7w
Locating my ISP - Armitage Shanks {p}
Thanks psi, that is a little way South of the location I got from the Frog! When I went to the ref your link gave me I thought I had struck gold. A vast Car park at 51.39.39.86N 0.49.55.71.W - it turned out to be a car boot sale in full swing on the day the Google sattelite went over, One has to laugh! Thanks for your effort and interest though!
Locating my ISP - Armitage Shanks {p}
Thanks Adam and psi. One of my anorak interests is bunkers and stuff and SFAIK there is nothing there, although it is close to an RAF HQ at High Wycombe and Daws Hill. The URL is 195.93.21.99
Locating my ISP - Altea Ego
A fellow Sub Brit member then AS
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Locating my ISP - Armitage Shanks {p}
TVM - yes indeed! You and others might be interested in this link

homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-turnbull/secret.htm

Locating my ISP - Altea Ego
Have actually fully explored one of those sites, a disused RAF nuclear bomb store.
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Locating my ISP - Stuartli
Not quite as exotic but I have been privileged to be taken on a guided tour of the underground bunker at Longley Lane, in Preston (a short distance from junction 32 of the M6).

Somewhat of a strange experience when weighing up the purpose for which it was created.
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Locating my ISP - JH
Perhaps not in the same league but I've been round Hack Green nuclear bunker. it's full of comms equipment and old (British!) computer equipment, the sort of stuff I was looking at when I started work :-(
JH
Locating my ISP - Armitage Shanks {p}
I am a bit of an anorak but not as much as a friend of mine who has paid money to go on tours of old East German bunkers! Stuart - you may be speaking of a bunker at a place called Goosnargh? I used to point it out to my students when I was doing flying instructing round there. If you knew what you were looking for it was slightly obvious!
Locating my ISP - Stuartli
>>you may be speaking of a bunker at a place called Goosnargh?>>

Not far out...:-)

If you turn east onto the B5259 from Broughton traffic lights on the A6, you turn left after about a mile to reach the bunker - Goosnargh, a delightful village with some cracking pubs, is straight on.

I prefer straight on and the pubs to be honest....:-)
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Locating my ISP - Citroënian {P}
Broughton, had many a pint in the Golden Ball, meals at Burlingtons - got married in St Johns!! Good Chinese takeaway in Barton, excellent post office in Whittingham...have they got around to doing anything about bypassing the lights at Broughton? Spent many, many hours in queues at those lights in the evening and the other way into Preston in the morning.

Lovely area though, apart from the bottlenecks!


-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Locating my ISP - Pugugly {P}
No Adam, it won't have any unused harrier munitons there.....!i
Dell laptop battery recall - Mazda-Man
HI guys - I usually find myself unable to add very much to this very interesting and helpful thread but thought this might be of interest to some of you.

Dell has apparently announced a major recall of li-ion notebook batteries for safety reasons. Apparently the affected laptop computers were sold between Oct 2004-Oct 2005 and the Dell website gives full details.

Hope this is of some help to some of you.



Dell laptop battery recall - Stuartli
Some 4.1m laptops, in fact, have been recalled...:-)
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Dell laptop battery recall - Altea Ego
Its worse than that Man Mazda.

April 1, 2004 to July 18, 2006
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Dell laptop battery recall - bell boy
if you have one of these i would get it changed without dell.ay
Dell laptop battery recall - Altea Ego
oh my giddy aunt.
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Dell laptop battery recall - bell boy
wel there is no charge...........
Dell laptop battery recall - daveyjp
Batteries were manufactured by Sony, could it therefore affect other brands?
Dell laptop battery recall - Altea Ego
not mentioned yet, but it might.
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Dell laptop battery recall - Mazda-Man
Read one report somewhere that the problems were only with Sony batteries fitted to Dell machines but I'd double check if you're in doubt.
Dell laptop battery recall - Adam {P}
Didn't the power supplies for some Sony PSP Slimlines get recalled last year too? I think Amy's was one of them but she never bothered replacing it. What harm could it cause?


Back in a bit - I can smell smoke.
Dell laptop battery recall - Mazda-Man
Found it!

www.ft.com/cms/s/8479c0d2-2c4c-11db-9845-0000779e2...l
Dell laptop battery recall - Stuartli
Let's hope it's not terminal damage.....
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Dell laptop battery recall - adverse camber
www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/08/14/dell_laptop_recal.../

has various stories which have been around over recent months - the video of the one going bang is quite good. (Adam take note!)
Dell laptop battery recall - psi
good grief I can't take any more of this acid wit
Dell laptop battery recall - Stuartli
Been featured on BBC TV News today and showed some of the pix of burned laptops that have been posted on the Internet.

Described as a good way of forcing the manufacturer's hand...:-)
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Links from this site to others - Mutton Geoff
I'm curious as why links from this site to others containing video or music are banned or de-html'd by the moderators. It's false to assume that those links eat up HJ's bandwidth because they don't. Any reader clicking on them will simply be directed to the new site, either in a new window, new tab or same window depending how their browser preferences are set. It certainly doesn't rack up the bandwidth of this site.

What it will do is report to the new sites logs that the user originated from here, but that's normally no issue.

I think there is a bit of confusion where if I linked to an image from here on another site then it's considered bandwidth theft, eg if I put the image located at www.honestjohn.co.uk/media/nav_bar/NavBar_01_04060...g into another persons site, then HJ's bandwidth is being gobbled up each time the image is loaded on someone's PC from that site. Links to other places, files or music don't use up HJ's money at all.
Links from this site to others - Citroënian {P}
I prefer the lesser spotted www.honestjohn.co.uk/media/nav_bar/NavBar_01_05010...g

Would tend to agree with you about the linking, unless there's some kind of caching going on at the Khoosys servers although I can't think why.


-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Links from this site to others - Dynamic Dave
I'm curious as why links from this site to others containing video or music are banned or de-html'd by the moderators.


www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=41...8

If you want, I will *try* and get a further explanation from someone at Khoo systems.

DD.
Links from this site to others - Citroënian {P}
Don't pester them for me, DD; "Portalled" is a new one on me, if Stephen & HJ say it's bad news, that's enough explanation for me.
-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Links from this site to others - No FM2R
I think it originally came from some confusion over the fact that an image on another [slow] site would cause your session on this site to slow and consume bandwidth as it downloaded that picture into your display. Amd I think most of that came from the rubbish advertising server [and approach/policy] that this certainly was linked to and may still be.

I think it was then taken that this must mean that any links to somewhere else were bad.
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But no posting a link to another site doesn't do anything at all except confirm to that site where the referral came from.

But bless, some people are happier with a supportive belief system, irrespective of reality. After all, that's how all the best religions begin
Links from this site to others - Citroënian {P}
>>But bless, some people are happier with a supportive belief system, irrespective of reality. After all, that's how all the best religions begin

^^Get out of the wrong side of bed again Mark? 6:34am and already being sarcastic - need to change from Ristretto to decaf methinks.

We don't pay to use this site. If the people who pay and are paid to run it make a polite request, can't see a problem myself.







-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Links from this site to others - cheddar
We don't pay to use this site. If the people
who pay and are paid to run it make a polite
request, can't see a problem myself.


I tend to agree, on the otherhand although I have never felt the need post video or music links it is perhaps not unreasonable to ask why such a policy exists.

Of course simply adding s p a c e s in the URL avoids the issue anyway.
Links from this site to others - mfarrow
Of course simply adding s p a c e s in
the URL avoids the issue anyway.


I'd sooner everyone just leave out the http:// as IE puts that in for you when you copy and paste, as getting rid of spaces in the URL is tedious.

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Links from this site to others - cheddar
Fair point!
Links from this site to others - No FM2R
>>need to change from Ristretto to decaf

God no. At least with super doses of caffeine I become my normal, gentle and loveable self as quickly as possible. If I had decaf I might stay crabby all day.

And I do adhere to the request because, as you say, its their website. Doesn't stop me thinking its daft though.

Anyway, wasn't that more facetious, condescending and fatuous than sarcastic ?
Links from this site to others - Altea Ego
No
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Links from this site to others - No FM2R
Damn you're in a gabby mood lately. Can't you quieten down and let someone else get a word in ?
Links from this site to others - Phil I
Keep the noise down boys please. I've only just got up and you are making my head ache this earfy in the day :-)

Phil I
Links from this site to others - Citroënian {P}
>>wasn't that more facetious, condescending and fatuous than sarcastic

Laughing, yeah ok fair enough.

Re-reading my post over a nice sandwich and a lunchtime cup of tea, it does look a little harsh. Think I'm beyond the help of caffeine; it takes the nymphs of the day a couple of hours to start my cheerful glands...


-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Links from this site to others - Dynamic Dave
We don't pay to use this site. If the people who pay and are paid to run it make a polite request....


I wish. Moderating is purely voluntary. I never even got to see the ploughmans Mark promised me.
Links from this site to others - Citroënian {P}
DD, if you're ever up in West Yorkshire or make it to a legendary NW meet or the soon to be arranged that I've just invented, Adam's Christmas Autumn meeting extravaganza, I'll stand you a pie & chips

-- You know, it\'s not like changing toothpaste
Be quick if you.. - Stuartli
..want the latest Microsoft mouse:

www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/108195/rb/21081585728
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What\'s for you won\'t pass you by
Be quick if you.. - borasport20
system requirements - 35 meg to install the software for a mouse !
time was when the biggest pc only had 30 meg !

I wonder how many they sell at £533 +vat !


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Go on, get out of the car...
www.mikes-walks.co.uk
Be quick if you.. - mfarrow
I wonder how many they sell at £533 +vat !


But you do get 45 of them!

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Mike Farrow
Be quick if you.. - Stuartli
>>But you do get 45 of them!>>

But there's only nine in stock...:-)
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Be quick if you.. - Baskerville
I wonder how many they sell at £533 +vat !


Don't forget, if you buy a piece of hardware you can get Windows XP cheap. Bargain!
Be quick if you.. - bell boy
ive got the comfort model with the remote keyboard thrown in £24.99 for both plus vodka at macro a few weeks ago,the only thing i dont like is the position of the "end" buton on the keyboard ,the mouse works on one battery that i cant understand as it needs 2 but was showing as low battery when they were both fitted?
Norton Internet Security - drbe
When booting-up I get a message to the effect:-

'Norton Internet Security expires in 13 days '(and counting down)

'Renew now or

'Renew later

If I don't renew, am I still protected - but don't get updates? Or am I not protected at all?
Should I:-
1. Renew
2. Buy the 2006 version
3. Wait for the 2007 release
4. Uninstall Norton and install free AVG
5. None of the above

As usual your advice would be much appreciated.

Don
Norton Internet Security - harry m
i was in the same boat tried to renew online went through the install got invoice number but nothing had happened e-mailed norton who said it had not gone through.got norton 2006 from amazon and going to install this instead.
Norton Internet Security - bell boy
no. 4
Norton Internet Security - Stuartli
Avast! is equally as effective as AVG but not only updates automatically (yes, I'm aware that AVG can be set to do so as well), it also informs you both verbally and via an onscreen message.

It's an install and forget AV (apart from updated versions about every three to four months).

See www.avast.com and look for the Home version. If you do decide to install it, when registering make sure you tick the box that it is being used only for home purposes; if you don't you won't get a registration e-mail extending the free licence from 60 days to about 14 months.

Frankly there are so many excellent free spyware and AV products readily available that I'm surprised some people are prepared to pay for commercial versions.

One problem with Norton is that it virtually takes over your system and is very difficult to get rid of afterwards...:-)
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Norton Internet Security - Adam {P}
Stuart,

Your excellent computer knowledge is much better than mine but - just one thing! I had Norton and switched to AVG and was very impressed - not least because it uses so little system resources but that automatically automatically (i.e. as default - no need to be set) downloads updates and tells you when it's doing so on screen. In fact, when I turned my computer on before, a little box appeared telling me it was updating and then disappeared when done.

Of course, I've never used Avast so it'd be unfair of me to compare the two but so far AVG has been great on all our PCs. I think we're both in agreement that both would be far better than Norton though!
Norton Internet Security - Stuartli
I did say that Avast! and AVG are equally good..:-)

I changed about a year ago from AVG after installing Avast! on an elderly friend's computer system - updating was something that he couldn't really get stuck into.

When I realised just how simple Avast! is to use, even for those who are newbies, I installed it on my own system and have never regretted it.

Interestingly my son, an IT Support Consultant with one of the UK's biggest employers, also uses Avast! on his home system which is, believe you me, absolutely stuffed with every software program you can think of, all the peripherals including a server and can be used anywhere in the house or called up on the front room TV..:-)
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Norton Internet Security - cheddar
NAV 2006 will be good value at the moment, cheaper than an upgrade of 2005 no doubt, it has one annoying feature where it constantly warns you if Windows/Microsoft Update is not set to auto however I prefer to decide myself when to run updates. Otherwise it is a good product.

I have used NAV for many years and will probably continue to do so on my PC though I think I am going to install AVG on the Kids PCs where the NAV 2005 subs have just expired.

By the way you are still protected after expiry though you wont get any new virus defs so should renew, upgrade or replace within a month or so max.
Norton Internet Security - drbe
Thank you all for your responses.

I shall probably take Stuartli's advice in a few days time.
USB wireless adaptor - tyro
Dumb question, I suspect, but here goes -

I'm finally taking the leap and getting Broadband. AOL tell me that they will provide me with a wireless router, but that I also need to go out and purchase a USB wireless adaptor. Being totally ignorant of such things, I wondered if there were different kinds of USB wireless adaptors, and if so, what kind should I get.
USB wireless adaptor - Stuartli
Do you only have one computer system?

If so you won't need wireless, just a USB ADSL modem such as the Sagem F@st800 or Speedtouch 330.

An example of a USB wireless adapter:

www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113771

PS

Most ISPs provide a free ADSL modem and a couple of splitters/filters for your phone sockets (if you have phone extensions or add-ons such as a Sky box you will need additional splitters/filters).
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USB wireless adaptor - tyro
Thanks Stuartli

That looks like the sort of thing. I've one computer upstairs, one downstairs, both regularly connected to the internet.
USB wireless adaptor - Stuartli
This might prove even better:

tinyurl.com/pepzy

I use the two port combo ADSLMax/ADSLMax2 modem router model from this company (plus one of its dialup modems!).

PS

Even cheaper USB adapters:

tinyurl.com/nq24s