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I have been wondering what is the most economical car on the market in real life. I have heard the robin reliant can do 81 MPG at a constant 55mph. Can anyone beat this?
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I didn't know a Robin could even do 55mph, except in a straight line! The diesel VW Lupo quotes 78.5 mpg on the extra urban cycle, Citroen C3 74.3 and Renault Clio 76.3.
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I've got a Fiesta 1.25 and on a mix of motorway and town driving, about 208 miles per week I get an average of 38.9 mpg. I don't know if that's good, bad or indifferent, it's just my figures.
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Volkswagon had a prototype 2 seater - both seats inline - with I think 4 wheels and it gave ~300mpg if I remember correctly. I haven't heard any plans to mass produce it.
As for the Robin Reliant, it should be beaten ... with a very large stick and lots of welly.
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have had a 90bhp tdi(VW) powered car since 1994. Best mpg 78, worst 46. It is hard work getting less than 50, 55 to 60 is the norm.
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The hateful 530d managed between 58.8 and 61 mpg at a steady 70 mph on the M6 from Penrith yesterday. Figures from its trip computer (which I have no reason to doubt). Its funny how other people's driving sends the "MPGometer" crazy.By the way what a perfect way to discover how I hate mid-lane hoggers on a perfectly quiet motorway. Air con made a difference. By the way trip computer was zeroed on joining the road at junction 40.
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Hateful 530d? Whats the problem? Got my new 204 bhp 330d yesterday with six speed gearbox. Big difference over my last 150 bhp 320d and boy does it shift. Economy seems very poor about 28 mpg but thats only with 120 miles and short journeys - I'll keep you posted.
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The hateful 530d managed between 58.8 and 61 mpg at a steady 70 mph on the M6 from Penrith yesterday. Figures from its trip computer (which I have no reason to doubt). Its funny how other people's driving sends the "MPGometer" crazy.By the way what a perfect way to discover how I hate mid-lane hoggers on a perfectly quiet motorway. Air con made a difference. By the way trip computer was zeroed on joining the road at junction 40.
60mpg for a 3.0 litre straight-six? Do you really believe that figure, Pug? BMW GB would leap on that one if it was quantifiable, but I have to say I've never seen a figure like that quoted in the tech lit for that unit.
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In July-August 2002 (18 month old BMW 320d), in mainly gentle motorway cruising, I covered 2417 miles in 3 tankfuls (amounting to 182.2 litres). This calculates to 60.3 MPG.
As posted elsewhere, the short-runs MPG comes out at around 46-47.
Oz (as was)
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Citroen Xsara 2.0HDi - 61mpg in Norway Fjord country up and down mountains, 58mpg on British Motorways (except the M1 at 58 gallons to the mile mostly at standstill), day to day to the office 16 miles at 56mpg, short runs around town 50mpg.
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I spent £30 to do about 70 miles in this thing. No idea how that works out - no doubt someone will do it for me, 12ish at a guess.
www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?threadid=193303
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My Xantia does 27-34mpg with a certain device, 26-32 without.This gets me about 20 miles extra a tank
My primera 1.6 did (before the disatorous carb cleaning escapade) 36 mpg from a tank which was 220 miles of motorway at 75-80mph with 5 people and 250 miles of commute which involves a little light town traffic and fairly open roads at 30-70 mph.
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Scooby's car (not an Impreza or anything like it, btw) was getting just over 8 mpg at £3.50 per gallon.
My '89 Renault 19 1.7 gets about 28-30 mpg in the city and 40-45 on a run, depending on whether I'm cruising at 70 or 85.
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I must have heavy feet. I'm getting about 19mpg according to the trip computer.
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1999 Mondeo 1.6 33mpg driving quickly, mixed roads, 40mpg long motorway run below 80 mph
1997 Polo 1.9D 50 mpg driven fairly gently, below 80mph on motorway, never managed below 44 mpg on a tank full
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My 2.0l VTEC Accord does 29mpg urban and 32mpg (80mph+) on the long runs. Car is driven hard (but not abused!) would get much more if could be bothered.
Also use cruise control alot and not sure whether this is mor eeconomical or not. ie is the engine computer better at driving than me?
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"Also use cruise control alot and not sure whether this is mor eeconomical or not."
Yes I think it would be, so long as you get a good long burst using it. Many drivers waver between speeds without really realising it on motorways, and it is the acceleration which gobbles. Cruise irons that out. (Except maybe if you leave it active on a steep hill where some overcompensate)
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"Also use cruise control alot and not sure whether this is mor eeconomical or not." Yes I think it would be, so long as you get a good long burst using it. Many drivers waver between speeds without really realising it on motorways, and it is the acceleration which gobbles. Cruise irons that out. (Except maybe if you leave it active on a steep hill where some overcompensate)
not sure I totally agree there smokie, yes acceleration and maintaining a set speed up a hill gollops fuel.
I think that manual control (should that be foot control?) can gain a little better consumption than cruise control by keeping a constant throttle opening so that the speed slowly bleeds away up the hill, and then gravity helps to regain it on the other side. But there is not much in it I would say.
Not that I can ever be bothered with this in practice, too many other things to think about.
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Passat TDi 115 - chipped to 140. Normally 45-47mpg. Last fuel crisis driving/limping back from Manchester to Windsor keeping strictly to the speed limits with a very light foot - 69mpg.
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Passat TDi 115 - chipped to 140. Normally 45-47mpg. Last fuel crisis driving/limping back from Manchester to Windsor keeping strictly to the speed limits with a very light foot - 69mpg.
hi
saw your post. Just got a focus tdi and thinking about chipping it. Superchips and also another company are offering chips. Who did yours? do you think it is worth it? How did it effect your economy as apparently they work by providing a little EXTRA fuel to improve performance.
cheers, Glen
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BMW 530d estate (manual) 184bhp
Heavy right foot - good mixture of town and motorway (c.85-90) gets about 34-38 mpg
M'way - cruising about 75mph - 40-42mpg
London - 26-28mpg
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1.0 Yaris GS 3dr, trip computer figures- managed to hit 50mpg while running in (<3k rpm), but now settled down to 46mpg, consisting mostly of my wife's daily cross-town commute (and she's not a gentle driver).
Don't know how trip computer works this out- I think it's some sort of rolling average over the last X miles, where X is quite large.
John
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I've always wondered too...so how does the trip computer work it out? Guess sensors in tank but how many?
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The fuel is metered into the engine so it works it out by measuring those amounts.
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Up to a point. My car must be one of very few with a fuel computer but no ECU...
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1998 Mondeo gives 38-44 mpg
1977 Jag XJC V12 gives 12 mpg
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2002 Fiesta 1.25
Round the town - 35mpg
On a motorway, about 45mpg if on a decent run.
Blue
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XJC eh......now there's a proper car
Have you 'Broadspeeded' it?
Why do governments have to supress the masses by keeping gas at crazy prices anyway?
Should be no more than £1 a gallon.
Even a 350ci V8 would be an 'economy' car!
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Also K-Jet Golf GTI's
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In my ancient Jetta 16v, before I stuffed it, I used to get 37-38MPG on my usual london to Newcastle drive. In traffic in London i used to get about 28MPG. The 2ltr Mondeo i have at the moment appears to return about the same on a run, i have done 340 miles since i filled up and there is a fair bit left. I am quite impressed by the economy of this car considering its a 2ltr compared to the 1.8 in the Jetta. A friend of mine had a 16V Golf mark 2 with an 8v fifth gear in his gearbox, he used to get 40mpg and over.
Ben
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Recent thread on this topic. Fuel is metered accurately into injectors, but tests on SWMBO's Clio suggests that although ECU controls injectors correctly, metering is not accurate in absolute terms: computer says overall 45 mpg, monitoring at pumps over 1000 miles says 40-41.
Calculation on Clio accumulates until tripmeter is reset, and updates every second or two.
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Andrew,
Carrying out your test on Golf GTi 1.8T the computer was about 5% 'better' than actual consumption.
However on SWMBO's Yaris the opposite is true - computer about 10% 'worse'.
C
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I wonder if Toyota changed the operation of the trip computer? In my 00W 1.0 GLS it is purely a trip computer - i.e. it resets when you turn the ignition off. However, I have seen others suggest theirs works over longer periods of time.
As for consumption on that, about 50 on the motorway as long as you don't push it much beyond 70, 40 to 60 around town depending on the length of journey and traffic and 50 to 60 on longer runs, with 70 possible if you really pussy-foot it. I'm sure I could get 99.9 out of it (it won't go above 100) but you wouldn't get very far very fast...
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It would also be interesting to compare what you actually get and what is officially quoted:-
www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search_form_basic.asp
I bet your own consumption is always worse.
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Almost on topic...
I don't think it's quite the 1st of April, yet:
Article in the paper today (31st) relating to discovery of the original plans for Charles Nelson Pogues vapoursing carburettor (circa 1933).
The story suggests they got 200 mpg, and the thing was buried by a political cover-up, having caused oil stocks to crash.. Pogue went from poverty stricken inventor to manager of a factory making oil filters.
A google search suggests it was real.
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Cavalier 1.8 ; mostly congested motorway driving 42 mpg
Omega 2.5 V6 ; congested motorway 29 mpg; round town 24 mpg.
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Something to think about. 1992 2.0L Cavalier (No Cat) returned 40+mpg when cruising at 90 on Motorways and about the same in lightish traffic. 1994 2.0Li Cavalier (Virtually identical car but with Cat)36mpg under exactly the same driving conditions. 1996 2.0SRI Vectra 34 mpg on motorways and 27mpg around town.
I was once told when the older Cavalier had its MOT that the emission figures would satisfy the requirements for a catalyst equipped vehicle! Were the legislators very sensible in opting for Catalyser technology instead of lean burn?
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Over a 3½ year period covering 33,500 miles, my Alfa 75 2 litre Twin Spark has averaged 30.27 mpg. The worst figure was 21.36 mpg over 200 miles shen I was only driving about 6 miles a day. The best was 37.6 mpg on a journey from Haywards Heath to Hereford.
My 1992 Celica has averaged 28.5 mpg over 2,800 miles since November 2002.
I?ve kept detailed records on all my cars for years, principally Alfas with the 1.5 litre boxer engine but also a 1988 Celica 2 litre. They all averaged between 28 and 31 mpg, with a best of 38 mpg in a 1983 Alfasud and a worst of 24 mpg in a Sprint.
I put the similarities down to driving style and to a consistent mix of long and short journeys. Depending on my mood, I tend not to hang about, but am not a boy racer (at my age?)
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The legislators did not specify catalyser technology; as stated it is possible for a non-catalytic car to pass the 'CAT' test. Unfortunately it seems all manufacturers decided the easiest way of passing the 'CAT' test was to fit catalytics unilaterally.
Personally I'm hanging on to my non-catalytic cavlier for as long as possible as the better economy saves significant money over 35K miles per year.
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Steve,
On SWMBO's 2001(51) Yaris there are 3 possible mileage readings on the dashboard display - 2 trips and the overall miles. The trips record for all journeys until you reset them.
The computer records average speed, average consumption, and instant consumption. Again both average readings are cumulative and certainly do not reset when the ignition is off.
C
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Cardew,
Yes, I have the odometer and two trip counters on mine as well. However, the two average readings definitely reset when the ignition goes off (or if you stall as I annoying found when I first got the car and wanted to know how well it did on a long journey).
I'll have a look in the book and see if there is any comment there about this. Personally, I'd prefer the option of both - cumulative would be nice, but per trip is handy on occasion.
As for the accuracy, it seems a tad low on mine as well - on a recent motorway trip it showed about 49 average but filling up gave about 51, but then again I did a couple of miles after filling up initially and I don't know how exactly it was filled both times.
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I'm pretty satisfied with 43mpg from my Volvo S80 2.4(170) auto, obtained on a 45 mile commute down the A14.
I can remember when getting 22-24mpg from a 2-litre Cortina (ah, them were 't' days!) was good going - maybe my right foot was a bit heavier in those days......:-)
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I can offer a suggestion for the least economical car. Consumption figures for the TVR Griffith 500 I owned a few years back:
On a motorway, constant speed roof up - 22mpg.
Round town, stop/start - 9mpg (yes nine).
And it needed Super Plus.
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Bentley MkVI 4250cc: on a run about 14mpg
Towing a caravan (once only, whilst moving house) 5.5mpg...
Least it runs on unleaded though....
O
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01Y Skoda Octavia SDi: between 48-56mpg in mixed driving. Best 64mpg on long motorway run, worst 44mpg (at 100mph for 2 hours!)
99T Mondeo 2.0 16v Ghia: between 32-38mpg, mixed driving. Haven't been on a long run in it yet!
8 years ago: 81W Ford Escort XR3 (stage III head, blueprinted) 0-60mph 7 sec, average economy 14mpg.
90H Maestro 700 Diesel Van at 50mph to Swansea and back: 91mpg!!!
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I did a 500 mile round trip on M ways/dual carriageways to Plymouth and back 3 weekends ago and got 49mpg from a Peugeot 206 90hp HDi and I have just done another 500 miles on A roads and slower and got 59mpg.
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I think it would be helpful if posters clarified whther these are calculated figures or simply pulled off an 'on-board computer'
I used to have great fun in a Renault 25 Turbo by zeroing the computer at the top of a steep incline and obtaining stunning figures by coasting for a couple of miles.
We haven't had the 16V TDCi C3 for long enough to know about that, but the other two in the fleet are
Suzuki Swift 1.0 GLS (Petrol) Consistent 55 mpg (calculated)
Daimler Ferret About 9 mpg on-road, 5 or 6 off
R
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Also speedo reading can be 5-7% over as well.
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Apparently a tank in the Iraq desert does about 0.5 mpg.
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No wonder they headed for the oil wells first...
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my 2001 golf gt tdi pd usually manges about 55mpg but on a long journey and with a light foot ive squeezed 65mpg out of it
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Vauxhall Corsa 1.2SXi average calculated from brim to brim fills: 45mpg
Can drop to low 30s around town but gives 50 on the motorway.
Daihatsu Charade 1.0CX (1987) gives about 48mpg average. Not bad when you consider the life it has - either running from cold for a 1km journey (I know it is 'bad' for it) or climbing mountains and very steep hills all over NZ. Am very impressed with it. Although on the mountains it guzzles oil at the rate of a pint every 200km ish - but they are steep mountains - around town it doesn't use anything.
Other cars: Rover 216Si 'N' reg - 35ish in mixed driving.
Vauxhall Omega 2.5CD ('M') 32mpg mixed driving.
Merc C180 Esprirt ('N') mid 30s mixed driving.
Ford Escort 1.3 Encore ('J') mid to low twenties until recently on very short trips - now 30 ish.
A friends Toyota Corona 1.8 does about 7 mpg around the mountains here - but you can also open it in many ways without the key and taking the key out of the ignition doesn't really stop the engine running either! I know this doesn't affect the mpg - just a general description of the car.
Paul C
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Mate of mine in the long ago had a big old Austin 16. He reckoned that if he got it up to 80, it would be using a gallon every 3 minutes. That's 4 mpg. Dunno how he worked it out though..
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taking the key out of the ignition doesn't really stop the engine running either! I know this doesn't affect the mpg
er... yes, it does. Assuming you're not moving when the key isn't in the ignition, you're getting 0mpg while that happens. When a car is only giving 7 mpg it's costing you thousands per year at least at our fuel prices, if you're driving any significant distance.
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Point taken - although they normally ensure the engine is off before leaving it anywhere. I should have said that it is possible to remove the key from the ignition but still keep the engine running.
Paul C
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I should point out that the Charade is being run on 91 octane petrol. Super in NZ is only 96...
Paul C
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Here are my figures for a 2001 Seat Arosa 1.7 SDi, driven 500 miles per week @60-65mph over same route, never thrashed, oil change every 5,000 miles (semi-synthetic), no exaggerated blagging (data provided over 18 tankfuls):
Fuel MPG
Shell Diesel 80.2
BP Greener Diesel 74.5
Tesco Diesel 71.9
Regards,
Daryl
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1996 Civic 1.5lsi auto, driven 'sensibly', mostly motorway commuting:
Average 40mpg; best 44; worst 35.
I have noticed a fluctuation in my figures which seems to have some correlation to the different brands of unleaded i use. I'm trying to rule out whether this is down to a dodgy pump, if not then i suspect the quality of fuel does vary quite significantly between my regular filling stations.
Ed.
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1994 Vx Omega 3.0 Auto.
Consumption for the last 9000 miles;Motorway figures from my regular Watford-Invernes-Watford trips, A roads figs from Inverness/Highlands and Urban figs from Watford/London
Motorway (Under 65-75mph)- TC 35mpg / Actual 32mpg
Motorway (75-90 mph) -T/C 30.mpg / Actual 28.mpg
A roads 50-60mph - T/C 37mpg / Actual 33.5mpg
Urban -T/C 21.5mpg / Actual 18mpg
Chad.R
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Chad - I'm very jealous of you! Do you regularly go to Inverness on business or pleasure? It's my favourite place to be in the world (well Dingwall ten miles north is!)
To return to the thread, I have a 1986 Granada 2.0i Auto and managed about 36-37mpg on my last trip from Lancashire to Dingwall with SWMBO, two rugrats and a full load of luggage. Not too bad really for an old car!
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99T 2.0 16v Vectra GLS - I usually get 37-38mpg with a mix of motorway & urban driving. That's with Shell Optimax; I have run it on lower grade petrol (in France) and with that I get around 33-34mpg.
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I forgot to sat that's with the air con on, I never switch it off.
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Skoda Octavia 1.4 16V Classic (no computer, calculated on refill)
41 mpg, winter defrost and commute
46 mpg, summer commute
51 mpg, taking it steady on long motorway run
42.5 mpg, car full of family and stuff on high speed continental run (90++)
Only managed to once get below 40, exploring pyrenees!
I wish it had aircon though!
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Ford Focus Ghia Est TDCI Diesel (2002)
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Lots of Town/National speed limits. Putting the car through its paces, red lining it, etc.
450 Miles per 52ltrs/11.44 Gallons
39.33MPG 8.65 MPL
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Mixed standard driving, motorway / town etc
530 Miles per 52Ltrs/11.44 Gallons
46.32MPG 10.19MPL
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55MPH Lots of motorway work.
674miles per 52Ltrs/11.44 Gallons
58.91MPG 12.96MPL
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RE, my other message:
i get 950miles (1,528.87KM) to a tank of diesel on my TDI Passat M reg, which equates to:
* 12.6 miles a lt
* 20.38 KM a lt
read it and wimper!
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Liters to Gallons for those of us in the modern world:
3.79lt = 0.83 gallons
75lt = 16.65 gallons (or my full tank)
IF you are yanky then these figures don't apply of course, and i can't be bothered to work out what they would be......
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Sorry got that mixed up above:
1.00 gl (UK and everyone else) = 4.54lt
1.00 gl (USA) = 3.79lt
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Are we to assume that you ran the tank dry prior to filling up and then ran it dry again in order to arrive at such accurate figures? ;)
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1 year old Ford Ka, the old engine:
Combined is about 41-42 mpg in winter, and 46 mpg at other times of year. Never had less than 40 mpg. Driving is mixed motorway (70 mph) at weekends and short commuting to work and shopping etc (legal limits). 48 mpg is typical (outside winter) and easily achieved.
I calculated it by working out how much fuel added to the tank and how many miles done according to the mileometer. I know the speedo overreads by 5mph (checked with GPS receiver) so I do wonder if the mileometer is accurate. No doubt I'll check this.
Mind you I got poorer figures from a Micra 1.0 (40 mpg) which has a much better official consumption (47 mpg versus 42 mpg) than the Ka, and the same 5mph speedo over read. Odd.
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Sadly I log all my refuels and mileage in an application on my Palm PDA. These are the stats for my 6 month old Passat 2.0 Sport (air con always on), 50/50 split motorway/city
Fuel Stats:
Total Litres: 2063.91
Avg Cost Per l: £0.752
Avg MPG: 26.92
Max MPG 30.44
Min MPG 24.61
Avg Dist on 1 fuelling: 313
Max Dist on 1 fuelling: 363.7
General Stats
38 refuels
Total Miles: 11,893.2
Total Days : 185
Total Costs: £1551.54
Avg Cost Per Mile: £0.1305
Avg Miles Per Day: 64.3
Avg Cost Per Day: £8.39
Oh, and when I tried Optimax the avg MPG was 26.27, lower than 95 RON!!!
Sorry to be so thorough!
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Thought i'd boast this with the B roomers. Just finished a tank of diesel on my M reg VW Passat TDI after getting 950 miles (1,528.87KM) from it. Take into account that i almost ran the motor dry and that also I never went above 60mph or 100kmh becuase i mainly take RN roads or D roads which are barren desserts in comparison to UK roads.
Can anyone beat this? I imagine that a newer diesel or one of the new generation of VW cars may be able to do so.
* 12.6 miles a lt
* 20.38 KM a lt
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Well, when touring, but still at a reasonable lick, my Honda Hornet 600 motorbike will run it reasonably close, but will give me a whole lot more fun in the process! :-))
Unfortunately, it's time to look for a garage every 140 miles though, and I'll never forget my last trip in France on a Sunday. It was almost impossible to tour, not just because most garages were closed, but also because the ones that were open only took French credit cards. So much for the EU! We ended up (there were seven bikes) giving a wad of cash to a kind French lady (driving a Caddy of all things) to use her credit card to fill all the bikes up! By then, I really was running on the fumes.
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7.8 mpg over a 'busy' shift in a Disco 3.9 auto...!
(Wouldn't have been my best if I'd being refuelling it with MY cash!) ;-)
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See other thread on similar lines to this one.
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=11...4
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Thanks, i did'nt see the other thread, but this is essentially just a repetition so goto the MPG thread!!!!
MG
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I\'ll attach it to the other thread and combine them. - Done.
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I've been pleasantly surprised with the 38mpg my Ibiza Cupra has averaged out to over a few thousand miles.
On hard run it'll do 15-20 to the gallon, but that's counterbalanced with the 40+ it'll do when I choose to pootle around at a steady 50-60mph.
Certainly a lot better than the 28mpg I got out my 2.0 VTEC Accord.
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1991 E30 BMW 325 Sport - 25.9mpg from the OBC over the last 6 months
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My Skoda Octavia 1.4 16V Petrol has just averaged 47.8 on holiday in France (round town, 60-70 mph and 85mph+ cruising) using 98 Ron Unleaded. Thats a range of 500 miles from full to orange light!
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This is gonna upset kurnal, see TDCi mpg thread, but my Mondy has just achieved 49.6 mpg acc. computer, probably around 47+ true, driving in G London including within and around the edges of the kengestion zone. I thought that was quite good, bet the petrol version does not get that.
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My Civic Type R is getting about 32mpg +/- 2mpg. This is with mixed driving and calculated by refilling tank using same nozzle in same station to first click. Also using Optimax, which seems to improve economy a small amount.
These figures aren't bad for the performance you get and very good in comparison to similar cars.
But then, I didn't buy it for economy!
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Borrowed my parents 110tdi passat last week for a trip to Reading from Soton and recorded 77.4mpg heading up and 71.4mpg heading back on the trip comp (generally 1-2mpg over reading). That's driving at 55-60mph up the M3 and generally driving very very carefully with no heavy acceleration on the way up and booting it at junctions a couple of times on the way back. Week before got 61mpg keeping at 70mph. Must admit that driving this gently for a prolonged period of time was very very boring!
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My F-150 averages 18 mpg on a run. But then my gas costs roughly 25% of yours so I reckon cost-wise for the purpose of this exercise I'm getting the equivalent of +/- 72 mpg from a 4.6 ltr V-8. Yee-haw!
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Since the thread has been resurrected, thought i should update my figures. Rolling average crept up to 42mpg, best was 49mpg. Which i think is pretty good for an auto. Thank you Honda.
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1999 Mondeo 1.6LX Best 40mpg with 300 miles of motorway at a very sedate 70mph and 150 other assorted gentle-ish driving. Worst 33 mpg when driven hard and fast. Typical 37mpg from 80-90 mph motorway journeys.
1997 Polo 1.9 CLD Best 55 mpg on my mostly motorway 35 mile commute at 60-70 mph during the fuel crisis last year. Every other tankful seems to calculate to about 45 mpg from 80-90mph motorway journeys and cross-country minor road journeys.
All calculated properly brim-to-brim.
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I'm a bit of a spod when it comes to MPG, here's the rundown on all the cars I've owned.
VW Polo Mk2 Hatch 1.0L - 33mpg, not great.
Pug 106XL 1.1 - 45mpg and peaked at 63mpg, nice engine shame about the rest of it.
Pug 306XLTd - 60mpg, loaned for a month waiting for the above car. Great turbo diesel engine.
Rover 620Si Auto - always returned 32mpg, great engine and gearbox, very tempting to use sports mode :)
Rover 623GSi Auto - around 27-31mpg depending on fuel, Optimax seemed best, heavy foot = 24mpg :(
Rover 3500S - V8 power with uprated carbs, 22mpg normal, 18mpg on a lengthy motorway run. Optimax with octane booster & LR dose.
Rover 2000TC - a poor 23mpg, carbs need adjusting.
Rover 75 CDTi - so far on three tank fulls - 43mpg, mixed driving owning to the terrible state of the M4 between Windsor and Slough, roll on September.
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Pug 306XLTd - 60mpg!
What were you doing, pushing it? I had a 306 DTurbo - same engine, almost the same car and it was lucky to get over 40mpg. I think you may have miscalculated there, mate. Friends who own them vary by about 3 or 4 mpg either side of 40mpg and the book figure is 42mpg.
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leather - I've had an M-reg XRdt and a P-reg XTdt (different turbo). Both managed 52-54 mpg over 10K miles - admittedly mostly motorway at 60. Current HDi does 60 mpg.
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two tanks on a prado 800km = 38Gall =13.15mpg.Not bad Eh.
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Has anyone ever owned and run a Austin Champ.?
I had a couple in the 80s and i am sure that 8 mpg was good and that was on the road, if you went off road then ...forget it...
But you did have 5 reverse gears and fully independent suspension,4 x 4 and all this in 1952......eat your heart out Hummer......
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'95 Cav V6. Mullered consistently for 4 yrs. 20-30mpg. Rubbish mpg but it always sounds nice and I don't do many miles. Luckily
How are birds supposed to know its a sanctuary?
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Peugeot 406 2.1TD GLX 1998 R-Reg.
Daily Commute around 120 miles.
Bought Car with 100k. Since added 72k in 2 years.
Service every 6000, "fuel saver" device is fitted.
Hope this is legible...
Date Tank M Total M Cost Litres Gallon p/litr MPG
29/1/02 725 128403 £51.22 73.3 16.11 72.9 44.99
6/2/02 688 129091 £55.69 79.7 17.52 71.9 39.26
21/2/02 619 130596 £50.79 69.7 15.33 72.9 40.41
25/2/02 462 131058 £38.31 52.5 11.55 72.9 40.02
5/3/02 717 131775 £52.57 72.1 15.86 72.9 45.22
13/3/02 596 132371 £45.45 62.3 13.71 72.9 43.46
19/3/02 844 133215 £50.38 67.3 14.80 74.9 57.05
24/3/02 505 133720 £37.52 50.1 11.03 74.9 45.80
30/3/02 616 134336 £40.52 53.4 11.74 75.9 52.45
7/4/02 565 134901 £49.36 64.8 14.25 75.9 39.66
15/4/02 579 135470 £50.54 66.6 14.65 75.9 39.53
21/4/02 609 136079 £52.01 68.6 15.09 75.9 40.37
26/4/02 548 136627 £40.95 54.0 11.87 75.9 46.21
28/4/02 381 137008 £40.95 53.9 11.87 75.9 32.11
2/5/02 416 137424 £33.72 45.1 9.93 74.7 41.91
1/6/02 626 138050 £53.34 70.3 15.46 75.9 40.48
12/6/02 622 138672 £49.48 66.4 14.61 74.5 42.59
24/6/02 674 139346 £49.27 67.1 14.77 74.9 45.66
11/7/02 1530 140876 £99.00 130.0 28.60 54.2 53.50
22/7/02 606 141482 £51.38 70.0 15.40 73.4 39.34
2/8/02 424 142543 £42.67 56.2 12.37 75.9 34.29
8/8/02 692 143235 £55.82 75.5 16.61 73.9 41.64
26/8/02 568 144537 £47.09 64.2 14.11 73.4 40.22
3/9/02 649 145187 £51.32 69.9 15.38 73.4 42.21
12/9/02 565 145752 £50.77 69.2 15.22 73.4 37.13
19/9/02 552 146304 £46.76 62.4 13.73 74.9 40.20
22/9/02 491 146796 £37.74 50.4 11.08 74.9 44.31
27/2/02 723 147520 £54.36 73.6 16.18 73.9 44.69
8/10/02 679 148198 £50.08 67.8 14.91 73.9 45.54
12/10/02549 148748 £42.49 57.9 12.73 73.4 43.14
19/10/02660 149407 £54.84 70.4 15.49 77.9 42.59
24/10/02645 150053 £55.26 74.8 16.45 73.9 39.22
31/10/02555 150608 £46.75 63.3 13.92 73.9 39.88
12/11/02571 151179 £49.54 67.0 14.75 73.9 38.73
1/12/02 557 151736 £46.03 62.3 13.70 73.9 40.66
9/12/02 633 152368 £53.18 72.4 15.92 73.5 39.78
15/12/02499 152868 £40.50 54.8 12.06 73.9 41.41
19/12/02603 153471 £43.76 59.2 13.02 73.9 46.29
27/12/02523 153994 £43.33 57.1 12.56 75.9 41.63
30/12/02741 154736 £57.17 77.3 17.01 73.9 43.56
31/12/02636 154799 £5.29 67.9 14.94 77.9 42.58
5/1/03 562 155361 £46.17 61.2 13.45 75.5 41.79
11/1/03 495 155857 £37.42 50.2 11.05 74.5 44.80
17/1/03 732 156588 £60.29 78.5 17.27 76.9 42.38
14/2/03 619 157208 £52.22 66.2 14.56 78.9 42.55
16/2/03 662 157870 £52.91 77.9 17.14 77.9 38.61
26/7/03 695 158564 £55.02 71.0 15.62 77.5 44.47
27/2/03 273 158837 £20.12 25.8 5.68 77.5 48.07
9/3/03 629 159544 £51.63 64.6 14.21 79.9 44.26
14/3/03 651 160116 £49.93 60.7 13.35 81.9 48.78
18/3/03 480 160596 £40.07 50.1 11.03 79.9 43.49
20/3/03 440 161035 £37.08 46.4 10.21 79.9 43.10
22/3/03 637 161672 £54.28 67.9 14.94 77.5 42.63
6/4/03 700 162372 £56.77 70.2 15.44 80.9 45.35
12/4/03 573 162945 £46.19 57.8 12.72 79.9 45.06
28/4/03 563 163508 £48.73 62.6 13.76 77.9 40.92
3/5/03 467 164976 £39.70 51.0 11.21 77.9 41.66
7/5/03 649 164625 £56.75 72.8 16.00 76.9 40.55
11/5/03 623 165247 £48.86 62.7 13.80 77.5 45.16
14/5/03 611 165858 £54.97 72.4 15.93 75.9 38.38
21/5/03 698 166556 £56.52 74.5 16.38 77.5 42.60
30/5/03 698 167254 £55.04 70.7 15.54 77.9 44.93
6/6/03 731 167985 £60.28 76.4 16.80 78.9 43.51
12/6/03 801 168786 £60.04 76.1 16.74 78.9 47.86
26/6/03 883 169669 £58.56 78.2 17.20 72.9 51.32
30/6/03 775 170444 £55.45 74.0 16.28 74.9 47.60
7/7/03 779 171223 £51.46 68.7 15.11 73.9 51.51
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OK - you win the anorak prize.
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Right! And be honest! What's yer car & what do you get to the gallon? I've got a 2002 Laguna 1.9dci 120 & easily get 40mpg. 46-50 on a good run.
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www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=11...4
sorry, not good at putting in links but this is a well trodden topic. Do a search on \"mpg - what do people get\" if the link doesn\'t work.
Splodgeface
link amended. Just needed a space in front of it. DD
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2003 Golf 1.6SE average 42-44mpg better than I excpected (1000 miles a month)
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31mpg.
2003 Honda Civic Type R.
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27mpg - 1995 Nissan Maxima QX 3.0 auto
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Audi TT Coupe 180BHP
33.6 mpg according to the computer. (mixed driving)
Only got 31 mpg for the first 10K miles until it loosened up.
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Laguna 1.9 dCi 120, 2,800 miles up so still stiff.
Managed to get a brimmed to empty tank calculation, with a 50/50 mix of crawling commute journey, and motorway work, with an average speed over the whole tank of 27 mph.
44.5 mpg actual, trip computer said 46.5
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Renault Family {P}
Same car myself, & yes the trip computer tells porkies. About 5% over-reading!
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I second (third) that. I reckon 2000W Clio computer is about 5% optimistic. It calculated 52mpg on 800-mile trip to Scotland at 60mph motorway & 50mph A-road. 'Proper' measurement gives just about 50mpg, being very slightly generous.
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Yup as my post below on a second test reveals the computer is giving a consistent +5% error. Seems to be a Renault average. Thats ok, not a problem as long as you are aware of it, makes it a usefull tool if you know its accuracy.
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Good God!
Anoraksia doesn't even begin to describe your problem!
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Got on hire at the moment a new Fiat Punto Active 1.2 petrol. Fuel consumption is averaging 50.2 mpg over the last three days including cold starts according to the dash computer. This included being stuck in a traffic jam yesterday for the best part of half an hour.
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Just yesterday drove for about 3hours at around 70mph along the M25, M3, A303, A30 in the diesel Yaris and got just over 67mpg. Great little car but must go soon in favour of something a bit bigger. Can't imagine much else doing that sort of mpg. At a steady 60mph what would it have done???
KB.
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Blimey, engine getting a bit loose now. Just done 689 miles on 57.6 litres diesel. (thats 12.6 gallons) Works out at 54.3 mpg
(trip computer claimed 56.7).
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6N VW POLO 1.4 TDi (2000 X)
Mostly Motorway 60-70mph
630 Miles from 45ltr tank
Have managed 680 miles before refuel.
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New Audi A8 3.7 - 690 miles at 25mpg and new Vectra 2.2DTi Auto - 435 miles at 44mpg.
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1990 cavalier 1.8 petrol last 3000 miles 44.1 average brim to brim. I think it likes the hot weather.
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Skoda Fabia 1.9tdi. Trip from Costa del Sol to Sheffield (toll/motorways) 5.2 litres per 100 km accoring to the car's computer. Distance around 2500 miles
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Alfa 156 Sportwagon 2.4JTD
Averaging 38-41 mpg no matter what I do with it, (although a 90-100mph run to the alps with a roofbox and a car full of ski gear dropped it to 36.
If I don't reply it's nowt personal, I'm just working!
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