Thanks both.
So at present that's 2- nil in favour of Citroen. I should have made it clearer that the Picasso's £11,00 is about £3,600 less than list. I saw the new shape Berlingo Multispace at wwwbroker4cars at about £2000 off list - but you need to add ABS & aircon to bring it up to Picasso spec. - I estimated that you'd spend around £10,000 on the road to get the 2.0 Hdi Multispace with all the goodies (ABS, Aircon). Why is the Picasso so heavily discounted?
KB.
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Whatcar.com has a depreciation analysis, it shows the Picasso HDI SX to be worth more than the Kia 2.0 CRDT SE after 3 years. It depends what you think of the Picasso digital dashboard. I like it.
On paper, I suppose they are similar, but you will have to drive both of them to get a feel.
Ben
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That does sound like a very good deal on the Picasso. I've been looking at these recently and the best I could manage from Citroen was 11,995 for the Picasso HDI SX. I found the Berlingo (the Peugeot version of it in fact) more fun to drive and less bus-like, though that's not to say the Picasso drives badly at all. The Berlingo/Partner just felt more precise and less cumbersome to me, maybe because it's slightly shorter and the wheels are nearer to the corners. The boot space with the seats in place is much more useful too because of the squarer body. The HDI engine is excellent in whatever vehicle--quite a revelation in fact.
You're going to have to try them, because it's down to what suits you best. But these vehicles (Picasso and Berlingo) are both very clever, innovative designs whereas the Kia, I suspect, is just keeping up with what's going on elsewhere. FWIW I'm going for the Peugeot Partner Combi. It would have been the Berlingo, but Peugeot offered me a 3 year 0% finance deal that will save me about £1200 in lost interest and make the actual cost (including ABS and aircon) just over £10,000.
Chris
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Have you looked at wwwbroker4cars.co.uk?.......Berlingo 2.0Hdi Forte - 8479 + 510 A/Con + 553 Safetypack = 9542. Versus the 2.0 Hdi SX Picasso @ 11027 (or 10999 from Carfile). Both excluding metallic.
KB.
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Interesting.
My money would be on the Picasso, for image, ease of resale and availability of parts.
I'm not sure what either is like to drive, although I doubt that either is anywhere near a Focus in dynamic ability.
This is based on style, economy (11mpg better), ease of resale (the Picasso, though not exactly a resale champion, is at least recognisable and therefore easy to sell at a fair price), and availability of parts, especially non OEM ones.
If you drove the Picasso and really hated it, then the Kia's not so bad you shouldn't consider it, but I reckon that after 3 years and 50k, the Kia should be worth £5,000 and the Citroën about £6,000. (Don't quote me on that though). Additionally, you'll save another £1,000 in fuel with the Picasso.
That makes the Citroën much cheaper in whole-life terms, plus you don't have to explain to the neighbours exactly what it is you've bought.
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Thnks KB, yes I did. But metallic adds another 250-ish and then there seems to be a problem with the supply of Berlingo HDIs with options added (there was when I checked this out anyway, might not be now). Choice of colour might further delay things, apparently, but this isn't/wasn't the case with Pug. My suspicion is that PSA are shifting base model Berlingos cheap to get them on the road as quickly as possible without damaging the Peugeot brand--price differentiation in the Skoda/Seat/VW vein. Worth checking though. Too late for me anyway; we were prepared to pay a few hundred more to get exactly what we wanted. The plan is to keep it well beyond three years so it won't matter.
I was amazed by what you get for the money anyway.
Chris
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Im looking to buy a new picasso in the next few weeks.
The best I can find is 1.6 SX with met paint and alloys. &10,240 onr with 1 year tax and HDI &11,399 same as 1.6.....
1/Whats the cheapest picasso I can buy...must hav a/c....
2/Is it worth paying the extra for the Diesel...
Any and all info most welcome....
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I know they talking about no VAT now but can't belive prices will go up by that 17.5% 01Jan03...
Looks like Citroen need to keep the price low...
Any by the way this is a v cool site...Caio....
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