Travelling to a place of work - Vol 1 - BB
I have noticed recently that a lot of back roomers have to travel some distance to get to work and back. If only to make myself feel better that someone else is doing the same journeys in the dark, I would like to know what you all do.

I have been travelling 60 miles each way (80% motorway) to my place of work and it roughly takes me 1hr - 1hr 15 mins each way. I travel in a 2.0 diesel montego and roughly get about 45 mpg and it works out to about £45-£50 per week in fuel.

What distance and time do you all have to travel to get to work, what car, and how much fuel do you need?
Travelling to a place of work - Jonathan {p}
I was travelling 40 miles each way over the Thelwall Viaduct for 18 months.

400+ miles per week.

Refuel every 4 days (320 miles) at £30 every fill

roughly 28mpg

40 mins on a good day 2 hours on a bad

Now 12 miles each way

20 mins good day, 35 mins on a bad

Jonathan
Travelling to a place of work - Blue {P}
What were you driving? Sounds a little thirsty...

Me, I just drive 3 - 4 miles to work, and back, at the weekends only, and if I feel like it, I can go to work through the week.

Normally have a 3 - 4 mile drive to Uni, through the City Centre, every morning though, I'm pleased to say that I still manage to enjoy the drive through the City at 9:45 am, and there's not many can say that. :)

Get about 30mpg overall, or if I take it a little easier, I can get 25 mpg.

Blue
Travelling to a place of work - Jonathan {p}
mazda mx6

belive me 28 is good, serious booting can deliver 18.
Travelling to a place of work - Steve S
Almost exactly the same as you BB, about 60 miles each way maybe 90% motorway.

1hr - 1hr 20 or so, except Friday evenings which can be 2 hrs.

Fuel I don't have to pay for (except the benefit tax) but my C70 does approx 420 miles to a fill up (62 litres or so) - whatever that is in mpg, say about 28?
Travelling to a place of work - wowbagger
What distance and time do you all have to travel to
get to work, what car, and how much fuel do you
need?


A few feet, a few seconds, Shanks' Pony, a cup of coffee and Weetabix.

I work from home.
Travelling to a place of work - M.M
Hmm very similar here to wowbagger.

No coffee, two weetabix and 50ft across the yard to the workshop.

Minimal commuting stress, boy does it make a difference to the day.!

MM
Travelling to a place of work - Toad, of Toad Hall.
14 miles. 9 miles motorway.

Takes 20mins to 3hrs entirely dependant on traffic.
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These are my own opinions, and not necessarily those of all Toads.
Travelling to a place of work - teabelly
Not quite such a short commute but 1.5 miles walk which takes 25-30 minutes (muesli and tea powered) depending on how spritely I am feeling or 2 mile commute by car if it is tipping down which takes 5 - 10 minutes. Not much commuting stress but heavy on petrol as the car doesn't get fully hot.
teabelly
Travelling to a place of work - Baskerville
Ah, there are others out there. Several coffees, no weetabix, and I take a rest in an armchair where I read for an hour. On summer mornings I go for a walk or bicycle ride instead. This routine was sometimes interrupted by some fairly hectic days of travelling with all kinds of clobber in tow, but they are less frequent now. I'm very glad I gave up working for other people. Recommended.

Chris
Travelling to a place of work - smokie
Another homeworker here. I work for a large company and have to go to customer meetings once or twice a week, often 100 miles + from home. But I mostly manage to make them at such a time that I avoid the worst of the M4.

While homeworking has definite advantages which I wouldn't dispute, some of the disadvantages are:

Difficulty in taking a day off sick unless you are near dead
In my mind, a stronger feel to "prove" that I am available and "at my desk" (at least) 9 - 5:30 than I ever had in the office
No mates to go for a fag/coffee with, or discuss tv/sport
Lonely Office Party

Advantages include
If I need to work some extra time I can take a break (for tea, the family etc) then start work again later in the evening
Not having to having to take time off for tradesman/utilities/deliveries
Not sitting in traffic for 2 hours+ a day ruining my engine
Not having to dress up
1mb cable modem connection paid for :-) (and he ability to cruise the internet during breaks)
If I'm NOT busy, being able to do something useful with the spare time (mow lawn, wash car etc)

It took some time getting into home-working discipline, not just for me. Mrs Smokie thought that cos I was around I could go and do the week's shop, get some painting done etc. The Smokettes call up for a lift home from school, or cos they've forgotten an imortant text book. The cat with his wet muddy paws has no respect for the documentation strewn across my desk.

I don't miss office life, but I would quite happily go back to it...

Travelling to a place of work - Ian Cook
Semi-retired, so I only work two days per week.

Travel across old Severn bridge in my Citroen van (diesel, 45 mpg, 5 litres per day) and pay a whopping £8.90 bridge toll.

The journey is very relaxing - 15 miles of motorway and 10 miles of country road (not congested). The biggest traffic incident is usually a cow that has strayed from a field (Newport end) or a milk float with a puncture (home town).

Ian Cook
Travelling to a place of work - mark (aberdeen)
BB, similarly I noticed that some regulars are doing 70+ miles each way. We tend to complain up here if we have to sit in a queue for 10mins! We're pretty fortunate compared to traffic conditions south of the border.
I do 14 miles each way on relatively free-moving B roads, which can take 25mins or 1hr; given up trying to predict the best time to catch the quiet spot.
Similar to SteveS I currently (not for much longer) get company fuel and pay the tax, but 406 1.8 petrol probably does about 30-32mpg.
Mark
Travelling to a place of work - Toad, of Toad Hall.
My parent complain about Worcestershire.

Yet there are times of day when I simply can't travel. Traffic.

I blame the parents. If kids walked to school the problem would go away.
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These are my own opinions, and not necessarily those of all Toads.
Travelling to a place of work - RichieW
35 Miles each way (A19) plus park and ride at the end of it(Newcastle Metro). Costs about £30 a week in petrol with parking and Metro tickets on top. Have done this for the last two and a half years.

All this in a twelve year old 1.3 HCS Escort. I consider myself a Martyr. Theres a good chance that I may get put out of my misery in the new year though.
Travelling to a place of work - Dynamic Dave
7 miles, all on A roads.
Anything between 12 mins and 35 mins, depending on whether school traffic is about or not.
Longest journey time was 1½ hours.
24 mpg if only use car for work. 28-30 with other journeys included.
Travelling to a place of work - 3500S
16 miles, 14 miles on the M4. Takes 25 - 40 minutes.

Not the best start to the day even on a normal day. Constantly packed from J5 to J7. As for the middle lane drivers and the straight to fast lane Merc's and BMWs, it's frustrating and tiring.
Travelling to a place of work - PatriciaX
77 miles each way, or at least thats what the AA say.

All motorway, apart from the 1st 1 1/2 miles to the junction. I set off at 7 am and travel east, when everyone else is travelling west so I hit absolutely no traffic (apart from the odd occasion that theres been an accident).

I have done it in 58 minutes door-to-door, but it usually takes me about 1hour 10 mins. Its always faster in the morning, no idea why.

Its costing me about £50 per week for the 10 trips

Im just glad The Big Purple One has a CD player cos the local radio stations aren't up to much and I cannot abide Sarah Cox! Crank up my Moseley Shoals and away I go ... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Had the worst drive of my life this morning in the ice and freezing fog: saw 8 accidents including watching someone being cut out of their car, which was not a nice experience, and it took me 2 hours. Mind you, Im still in one piece - some drivers are just maniacs!

Patricia
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Travelling to a place of work - Steve S
"Had the worst drive of my life this morning in the ice and freezing fog: saw 8 accidents including watching someone being cut out of their car, which was not a nice experience, and it took me 2 hours. Mind you, Im still in one piece - some drivers are just maniacs!"

Absolutely.

Take some sudden freezing conditions, add a few rear wheel drive auto's with drivers who haven't looked at the temperature and Voila!

Automotive skating coming to a roundabout near you!
Travelling to a place of work - RichieW
.>> Its always faster in
the morning, no idea why.



Its alway faster in the morning for me too.

I reckon that in the morning everyone is rushing to get to work on time before 9am or what have you. On your way home theres no cut off time and you can be as late as you want. People relax a bit more and take their time. People are more tired as well and I guess that will slow them down and reduce traffic speeds overall.

Personally, if I am late, I am prepared to reduce my MPG in the morning by driving quickly to get to work on time but prefer to try and keep it at 70 on the way home to save on the petrol tax.
Travelling to a place of work - Steve S
Is it because people stagger their departures - but all leave at the first opportunity?
Travelling to a place of work - GS
I have been travelling from Surrey to Essex for the last five years in an Audi 100 2.6 Auto Estate. The 51 miles, each way journey can be accomplished in 55mins with a clear run however it has been known to take four hours due to traffic hold-ups.

The Audi has a 17.6 galleon fuel tank so at 30-31 mpg, with the climate control on, a 510 mile tankful is possible before the low fuel level warning appears. Cost about £58 a week. I have always used Shell regular unleaded. Optimax makes no difference to economy however engine response was slightly improved. The car has always run on Michelin tyres. The strange thing is that even when the journey takes four hours a tankful still produces 30mpg.

Happy travelling!
Travelling to a place of work - SpamCan61 {P}
I do Christchurch to Camberley & back : 130 miles per day. Usually takes 1hr 20 mins.

Roughly 65 miles each way : 75% motorway; rest of it pony/cow dodging through the New Forest.

Car is 1990 cavlier 1.8 ; average consumption this year 43 m.p.g.
Travelling to a place of work - BrianW
I do central Essex to the West End of London.
40 miles each way. (5 miles urban, 18 miles rural, 5 miles motorway/dual carriageway, 12 miles London traffic)
Time approx 90 minutes each way.
Fuel consumption 90 mpg. (4 litres per day)
Travelling to a place of work - Dan J
My drive is 45 miles each way. Middlewich to Horwich which is get on M6 J18, off at M62 Eastbound, onto M60 clockwise then up the M61 to Horwich.

Much bad traffic along that route and worse on the way home due to the ******* roadworks on the blasted Thelwall Viaduct.

Interestingly, my 2.2 Vectra, like GS's Audi does 29-31mpg regardless of whether I have a lot of clear runs or are stuck in hours worth of jams.

I get the opportunity to work from home several days a week but although I enjoy it I don't think it assists you careerwise. I certainly like the flexibility of my working hours though I definitely agree with Smokie that there is much more onus on you to prove you're available/working the right times/periods.

Still, this time of year I'd rather not be driving such long distances anyday - I wonder how much we're all increasing our chances of death by motor car with all these lengthy commutes?
Travelling to a place of work - CM
By foot - about 7 mins
By bike - a leisurly 3 mins
By car - about 15 mins
Travelling to a place of work - Hugo {P}
I travel about 15 miles each way to work.

It is all country roads until I get to Plymouth, when the busiest area is just before I turn off to my place of work.

Also, as we work a sort of flexi time, we can alter our travelling times to suit.

If I leave at 6.30 am it can take me as little as 25 mins, however at 7.15 am it can take 45 mins.

Longest journey times are when it snows as it stops me leaving early until we get the roads gritted in our village. I join the roads with everyone else that gets caught out and it takes me 1 and a half hours!

As for petrol, I spend around £20 per week.

H
Travelling to a place of work - Mark (RLBS)
1000 miles a week, mostly motorway.
Travelling to a place of work - Pugugly {P}
If I'm office bound. Office 1 is six miles away and takes 15 mins
Mixed limits 60/30/40/60/40/30 in that order see the same old boring cars (NI reg Montego Estate etc etc)

Office 2 is nine miles 60/40/30 and takes up to half an hour. Guess which Office I try to use most !
Travelling to a place of work - PST
Bang on 50 miles each way from M25 J17 to Romford, 5 days a week. Driving a recently acquired Omega 3.0 (as a result of the praise from this forum) and getting between 28 and 31 mpg. Journey takes about 1hr 5 mins bar the occassional pile up.

Biggest problem at this time of year is driving into a very low Sun in the mornings and then being blinded by the floodlights in the roadworks round by 21 in the evening.
Travelling to a place of work - BrianW
"Biggest problem at this time of year is driving into a very low Sun in the mornings "

I had this problem for a year in one job, driving into the rising sun in the mornings and the setting sun in the evenings.
Very tiring.
Travelling to a place of work - Steve S
"I had this problem for a year in one job, driving into the rising sun in the mornings and the setting sun in the evenings.
Very tiring."

In the UK? That must have been the year we had a summer.
Travelling to a place of work - HF
1000?????

The out and out prize-winner for mileage here so far, by a million miles!
Travelling to a place of work - borasport20
M60 clockwise then up the M61 to Horwich.


I cross over the top of J6 every day - your lucky you don't have to go in to Bolton down Chorley New Road every day. (but now the two public schools are shut, it takes about 20 minutes less and my petrol consumption improves by 5 mpg)




I have to grow old - but I don't have to grow up
Travelling to a place of work - Clear Spot
Milton Keynes to Central London.
Distance - 55 Miles
Time Taken - 1 hour average
Cost - £280 per month
Mode - Virgin Train.
Travelling to a place of work - Dave_TD
I'm presuming you drive for living then Mark? Or you commute to and from Leeds every morning and evening?
Incidentally, I went to RLBS twice on the trot yesterday, that'll do til after xmas...

My distance to work, well, as soon as I'm in the Skoda at 6 or 7am and switched on the two-way radio, I'm at work!! I can normally get a job over the radio from within half a mile of home to start me off.
I worked out I do 84,000 miles per annum in the car, which comes in at 1,615 miles per week. Although allowing for holidays, illness, occasional bursts of lorry driving and the seasonal ebb and flow of trade, my lowest week's mileage has been 1,200 and my highest 2,500.
Travelling to a place of work - vercin
Essex to the City and back.
Approximately 450 miles per week
1 hr 20 mins Avg journey time, good time 1 hour excellent time 50 mins.
Problems, Kens bus lanes and the permanent road restriction schemes. Inject the regular Met police/DVLA checks add 30-45 mins to the journey.

Regards

Vercin
Travelling to a place of work - HF
K you just took first place!! Although, since you drive all day for a living, and M's is all commuting, I have to say you are both vying neck and neck for the prize!
HF
Travelling to a place of work - Bromptonaut
Milton Keynes to Central London.
Distance - 55 Miles
Time Taken - 1 hour average
Cost - £280 per month
Mode - Virgin Train.


Variation on this theme:

Bugbrooke (Northampton dormitory village) to Chancery Lane, London WC2
Distance-77 miles
Time Taken-1:30 to 2:00
Cost-as above plus £70 a month diesel and £2.50 daily parking
Mode- Car (BX or Xantia Diesel 45mpg)/Train (virgin or Silverlink)/Folding Bike for the central London bit

Really odd today, dropped kids at 07;40, missed expected (were they still scraping ice?) jams at A5/A43, train at 08:20, sitting at my desk 09:20.

Then inbound tonight delayed 60 mins 'cos a road vehicle had hit a rail bridge at Bletchley.
Travelling to a place of work - Rob C
My office is only a mile away. I bought a SIII Land Rover to drive daily, but the thing drips condensation like a sauna in this cold weather, so I don't use it, even though there is a nice bit of green lane to use as a short cut. I drive the 3 litre Jap GT monstrosity instead.

I won't draw attention to the two mountain bikes gathering dust in the garage.
Travelling to a place of work - DavidHM
10 minute walk or 6 minute bus ride to the station, 5 miles into central London, 5-10 minutes on the bus.

Total time is 35 minutes on a good day, 40-45 average, 55 nightmare, all on public transport. Biggest cause of delay is not being able to get on a train that has stoppped in the station. It's very rare for me to get a seat.
Travelling to a place of work - BB
Apart from the back roomers who drive for a living (DTD). The winners are:
1: Mark -1000 miles a week!
2: Patricia X & Simon Butterworth -77 miles
3: Spam can -65 miles
4: Me & Steve S - 60 miles
5: Clear Spot - 55 miles
6: GS - 51 miles

Apologies to whoever I have forgotten, if anyone can beat the 1000 miles a week from Mark, I feel sorry for you!
Travelling to a place of work - Dave_TD
Mark - do you drive to work, or get the train?
Travelling to a place of work - Mark (RLBS)
I drive.

I have offices in Didcot, Watford, Coventry, Solihull & Wokingham, and so it depends which office I am working in that day and whether or not I am working in it all day.

It is an issue. Believe it or not, the 1000 miles is an average. Some weeks it can be a lot more.

And I don't drive for the job, other than going to & from our offices.
Travelling to a place of work - FergusTheDog
I drive to one office, 150 mile round trip usually in a Focus TDCi - takes about 75 mins each way but I have to be on the road before 0600 in the morning. Get about 45mpg.

I use the train to the other office - sheer hell of 110 minutes each way and 86 quid return fare. And then the tube...

Travelling to a place of work - Daedalus
BB

Half as bad as you! 30 miles each way, 26 miles of motorway and I get to work in 30 minutes at 06:15 in the morning (M62/M60). Journey back takes 35 minutes at 16:00. When I use the Blackbird! Car is 35 minutes in the morning and 50 minutes at night or far longer like 2 hours once. The bike has never been longer than 50 minutes either way.

I think that the more speciallised the job you do, the further away you live. Or you have one that pays for you to live on the doorstep.


Bill
Driving to work - top turkey
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3008567.stm

Suggests that we are now more likely to resit relocating for our careers and are more willing to commute.

How far do people drive daily in order to get to work? To start the ball rolling, I do 84 miles a day from Sutton Coldfield to Nottingham. I have an office based job there and do not travel as part of my day to day work. Spend a minimum of 10 hours a week behind the wheel.


Cheers.

TT
Driving to work - teabelly
I have a two mile drive to work so I usually try and walk the shortcut so I can either be there in 10 minutes driving or 25 minutes walking. I must admit that when the weather is bad I am much more inclined to drive than walk than I used to. I must be getting old!
teabelly
Driving to work - Dan J
I have been driving 90 miles a day from Middlewich up to Horwich. It was a large factor in deciding to move to a new job - current job is okay but not worth me moving closer for.

Like top turkey I am spending a vast amount of time in the car, 10 to 12 hours, and to be frank I have better things to do with my time. Also it puts massive mileage on my car and drastically increases service bills etc.

At my next venture I will be living about a mile away. May walk in the nice weather but that 2 minute drive is going to be absolute bliss!

Bye bye back-box :)
Driving to work - Morris Ox
I spent two-and-a-half years driving from Newark to Leeds everyday.

Three hour round-trip, five days a week equals 15 hours a week at the wheel. Average of about 40 weeks a year doing it equals 600 hours. Divide that by 24 equals 25 days.

So nearly a month every year doing nothing but commuting.

Life is too short for that.
Driving to work - peterb
10 minute walk to station. 30-40 minutes on the train and tube.

Overcrowding on train and tube is getting worse and worse.
Driving to work - Wee Willie Winkie
Just over a 100 mile round trip every day. A fair proportion on the M56 - which seems to attract drivers who enjoy crashing into each other and the central reservation etc. Hence about 2.5 hours a day sat behind the wheel contemplating life.
Driving to work - Dan J
Yes - I found that as well when I used to travel it. It and the M6 Cheshire stretch compete daily for the title of "suicide run".

God knows why, it's hardly like it's a "complicated" stretch of motorway or has any particularly bad junctions.
Driving to work - Andrew-T
God knows why? Lots of others do too. It's because thousands of other drivers do the same thing.

And to revert to the first post on this thread - suggest? it's been obvious for years, if one looks back more than a decade or two. When I started paid employment, quite a few still cycled to work, and several buses used to turn up at 5pm to take workers home. In the eighties the buses went, and huge areas were turned into car parks which not long after were found to be too small. And people still find it strange that our road system is overloaded.
Driving to work - Alfafan {P}
Dead right Andrew. Way back in the 60's, the place I worked at in Hereford shut its Birmingham factory and many staff relocated. Several of them moved to a small town about 14 miles away (the properties were cheaper). All the locals thought they were mad, giving themselves such a long drive every day.
Driving to work - smokie
No problem for me as I work from home.

However when I eventually change jobs, I would be more inclined to travel further than move as I feel that tehre is little loyalty from companies to their employees these days, and they could easily pay you a relocation package to the back of beyond only for the bean counters to decide you are redundant after three months...

Driving to work - Ian (Cape Town)
anywhere between 25 and 70 minutes in to work in the morning - 25kms, all dual-carriageway, but dependent on accidents, catching the lights correctly, weather, time I leave the house.
Return journey normally 25-30 minutes, I won't leave town if the traffic looks bad (for any of the above reasons), so will stay at work/go for a pint.
Public transport here is minimal, and what there is is dangerous!
Driving to work - SjB {P}
A colleague has just moved from Bracknell to Brighton out of choice, when his office is High Wycombe!

Five hours a day (and then some, on some days) of M25 + Mwhatever.
Mmmm. lovely!
Mad in the head, or what?

Yes, I know we have incredible freedom, and I like driving as much as many other people, but actually, this type of commuting by choice is an almost obscene waste of resources, IMHO.

In contrast, in my wife's home country of the Czech Republic, if you live 2 miles from work you?re a long distance commuter, and as I have found out, even having parents 50 miles away is unheard of too!
Driving to work - SjB {P}
Oh yes, I'm lucky: I either work from home, or take a quick drive to the airport to go abroad. Stopping my daily 20 mile (each way) commute last year, which is very short by many standards, has had a beneficial impact on life beyond my dreams. Wish I'd done it sooner!
Driving to work - Nortones2
I used to drive 80 per day, M6 and M58, taking 1.5 to 2 hours total. On bad days, 3 hours on return trip north! Did this for 5 years. Worst problem was staying awake on the return drive!
Driving to work - Flat in Fifth
It is all Thatcher and Norman Tebbit's fault. "On yer bike" so we did.
Driving to work - martin
Commuting was put at second to house moving as the most stressful factor of modern living according to a recent gov report. I have also heard that commuting leads to a generally unhappy way of life (this was in one of those week end suppliment magazines).

Personally, unless you have wedded youself to your house, I would always consider a move to a location that is at least within cycling distance of a job, 10-15K. Who want\'s to wreck their car for the sake of their job, surely you have to consider the costs also to your health and general well being.

May be I\'m just a fussy pink fluiffy dice though, but i can\'t stand the idea of wasted fuel or car journeys. My car is for pleasure, not so i can get to work and earn the money to pay for my getting to work.
Driving to work - Nsar
I think I'm right in saying that the cost of moving house is somewhere in the region of £3-4k not including stamp duty if applicable. That's a lot of wear and tear on your motor never mind the lifestyle upheaval, changing schools for the kids etc. This is why when bypasses and major roads open they're quickly choked - that otherwise impossible journey is now do-able and hey, it's only another 20 mins each way
Driving to work - Andrew-T
Having always avoided the decision myself, I recognise that the fundamental crunch issues are (1) the cost of a house nearer a new job and (2) the fact that jobs are no longer for life, or even for next year. So many people avoid these decisions and jump in their cars. Especially if that car comes with the job.
Driving to work - top turkey
>May be I'm just a fussy pink fluiffy dice though, but i can't stand the idea of wasted fuel or car journeys

Martin, I appreciate your point of view. I'm not sure where you live, but in the sunny delights of Birmingham, it would take me about 1 hour to travel 10 miles if I worked in the city centre, and I am sure that this is the same for many urban commuters. It would actually take me longer than 1 hour if I used public transport.

In that time, I can travel 42 miles to Nottingham! Whilst neither journey would be particular good for my car, I would have thought that the second option would be less wear and tear on the brakes, clutch etc, although perhaps more in fuel?


Either way, retiring at the age of 30 following a big lottery win would take all these worries away.....

TT
Driving to work - Sheepy-by-the-Sea
I agree with you smokie - the insecurity of modern employment means we're reluctant to move.

One problem we have here (Blackpool) is that my employer (no names) has three sites around the town, and can send us to any one of those sites. For instance, I can walk to work at the moment, but could easily be moved to a site ten miles away. Not far enough to relocate, but far enough to need a car and add to the congestion. Unnecessarily, since we're IT people and could do our job anywhere.

That sort of thing must go on all over the country.
Driving to work - Mark (RLBS II)
>>has three sites around the town, and can send us to any one of those sites.

If you´re not driving a company car, do check you have full business use on your car. Some policies are "to and from one permanent place of work" only.
Driving to work - zedzedeleven
Was`nt there a letter in today`s paper about I.T. job losses due to employing Indian or Russian firms at a significant saving ? You are right of course , I.T. can be networked from anywhere , our help desk is miles away. As far as commuting goes though I have cycled the two miles to work for thirty four years , through hail rain sleet and snow. I just do it , don`t think twice about it. Been offed a few times as well. Worst was a freak gust of wind that blew me into the kerb and over the bars . Car behind didn`t even stop , and they worked at the same place as me.
Driving to work - Dynamic Dave
How far do people drive daily in order to get to work?


I believe there's been a similar question like this been asked before. I'll do a search later and post the link if I find it.
Driving to work - SpamCan61 {P}
This one guv?

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=i&t=93...2
Driving to work - Dynamic Dave
Spamcan61, yep that's the one. I'll amalgamate the two threads together to save repetitiveness.
Driving to work - eMBe {P}
A few years ago, I was part of a bid to bring a new business to an area which suffered high-unemployment, and most peole commutted 20 miles or more to work. The council wanted to give us planning permission on condition that we employed locals. We persuaded them in the end that this was not enforceable in Law equal opps. & anti-discrimination, etc.); and that although we would endeveour to recruit locally and the Company would prefer & benefit from local employees, the jobs would be filled by the right people with the right skills. Guess what, even though the skills were available locally, the end result was that we had many people commuting to this business from 15 to 20 miles away, while the many locals who would have easily got these jobs continued to travel out!
I believe there\'s been a similar question like this been asked
before. I\'ll do a search later and post the link if
I find it.

DD: Now that Spamcan has found the link, how about joining the two together and naming the thread \"Driving to Work, Vol I\" or simialr?

Done DD.
Driving to work - VIVEK BISHNOI

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Edited by Avant on 30/04/2020 at 00:23

Driving to work - Engineer Andy

Oh dear - reviving a 17 year old thread to post an obvious spam link about something as important as the current pandemic with a fake vaccine. That's really low.

Driving to work - alan1302

Oh dear - reviving a 17 year old thread to post an obvious spam link about something as important as the current pandemic with a fake vaccine. That's really low.

Can't see it is anything to do with the current situation - just general vaccinations when going to certain countries abroad.