Euro V diesels

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Fri 25 Feb 2011 13:22
Euro V diesels - ST Driver

Honest John mentions in his Peugeot 508 road test.

Peugeot only expects to sell 8,500 508s in the UK in a full year, split 50/50 saloon/SW and 80/20 diesel/petrol, though, once the public starts to catch on to the disadvantages of EU5 diesels, I expect a significant move back to petrol.

What are these disadvantages please? What are the petrol alternatives for high mileages?

Many thanks.

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Fri 25 Feb 2011 14:20
Euro V diesels - Armstrong Sid

The arguments against Euro V were explained by several people a few weeks ago

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=89552

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Sat 26 Feb 2011 07:17
Euro V diesels - ST Driver

Thanks for the link. It doesn't really say very nuch though! I was wondering if there was a diesel expert on here who could give the differences. I have a EU4 Mondeo (non DPF) do 20,000+ miles a year and was wondering what to replace it with. I suspect a diesel but don't really want to go down that road if I have to factor in new injectors (for instance) every 3 years. I have been replacing EGR valves every 25,000 miles in my Mk3 Mondeo!

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Sat 26 Feb 2011 12:46
Euro V diesels - john96

The logic behind what is being said here is that we should all buy petrol engined cars, accept the lower mpg, but avoid the inevitable big bill...

Or am I wrong??

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Sat 26 Feb 2011 14:39
Euro V diesels - ST Driver

Maybe, unless something major goes wrong I won't be changing mine for another 4-5 years anyway so I guess all will have changed and diesel cars will be on EU VIII regs!

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Sat 26 Feb 2011 20:36
Euro V diesels - Hamsafar

Just to be pedantic, roman numerals in this context are for commercial vehicles such as lorries and coaches.

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Mon 28 Feb 2011 15:11
Euro V diesels - ST Driver

Very sorry for using roman numerals. It is stamped in my sound deadening as IV. My CAR is not commercial though.

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Sun 27 Feb 2011 12:50
Euro V diesels - opahale

PSA claim to make some 5 million engines a year they exspect the ratio of diesel to petrol engines in europe to increase to 70%+ France,Belgium are now above 80%. A euro 4 2 Ltr straight 4 diesel engine costs 800 euro as against the petrol version costing 400 euro`s to make. The new euro 5 diesel will cost some 1600 euro`s to make. For that price they can make a very nice V6 petrol engine. However it is going to be what fuel`s are available that are going to control the market. BMW have a very nice euro 5 diesel 2 ltr engine now only it is a case of if you can afford the car. It is also claimed that the life of a euro 4 and euro 5 engine is dictated by the the user and the quality of the fuel he is tanking thus the aguement of VW, Bosch and shell over SHELL V.

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Mon 28 Feb 2011 16:21
Euro V diesels - madf

Hmm

When I see articles about the futiure of diesels..(which are only successful due to savings in fuel COSTS) ,,, and they ignore fuel PRICES.. then I treat them with the contempt they deserve.

Anyone think fuel prices are going to fall to £1 /litre? Thought not.

Or rise to £2 per litre?

Anyone like to forecast the future demand for cars doing under 50mpg when fuel is £2.50/litre? Hint: falling.

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Mon 28 Feb 2011 16:51
Euro V diesels - jc2

Not all EU countries tax diesel as highly as the UK.

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