When and why do you change your car? - Rattle
Just wondered when you change your car? I've had mine since March and I like it, I know it inside out but I am getting bored. However since I have fixed all significient faults I would be mad to sell it. My plan is to keep it till at least next March or longer (probably till next August) of course an accident or an engine failure woudl change that!

So I wonder why do most people here change their car? Is it due to the fact its no longer ecominical to repair, its a company car or you're just bored of it?

I've decided my next car will either be an Astra G or a late Focus MK1. I am thinking of a 55 reg and I already have a money tin I am putting at least £10 a week in to try and save up a little bit!

I would probably keep my next car for around five years.
When and why do you change your car? - perro
I've owned nigh on 39 cars over the years, I even bought a brand new BX 16TRS once - and outed it within 6 mths!
I kept my old Volvo 240GLT for about 6 years amazingly. (great car) I've had my present 05 Almera 1.8SE for 2.5 years now ... I nearly outed it after 6 months though for a V40 but - the Almera does everything I could ask of a car really, sure - there are more desirable cars out there but 2.5 years trouble free motoring + I can sqeeze over 40MPG out of the critter (if I mimse) ... to be honest squire - most modern cars bore the t-ts off me!
When and why do you change your car? - oilrag
"I know it inside out but I am getting bored."

But do you know the subframes, seams, brakelines and all those rusty nuts underneath?
Why not get some waterproof grease and slather it underneath with a brush, Rattle?
;-)

(why even consider selling a sorted car?)

Edited by oilrag on 16/08/2009 at 16:09

When and why do you change your car? - Rattle
The chasis leg certainly could do with some protection, its still solid and it looks worse than it is but but with a bit of protection it will be many years before the car suffers rust MOT issues. I would need to invest in some axle stands though, my 3.5 tonne jack is fine for checking wheel bearings etc but I would not want to go underneath the car with it.

Why consider selling it well its a small car with 82k on the clock so in order to keep any value I will have to sell it before it hits 100k. The brake pipes are completly rust free. The rear bushes might need doing one day but certainly nothing that will fail the MOT for a while as far as I can tell.


I am not planning of selling the car a while but thinking I can own a much newer and bigger car gives me some motivation and something to aim for. Its like I could ever get a mortgage etc.

I just don't want to be one of these many people that keeps the same car for years and years. I know somebody who owned a MK5 J reg Orion for 14 years since new. By the time it had 60k his crankshaft bearings had to be replaced. I don't know how somebody could put up with the punishment of such an awful car for so long.

Edited by Rattle on 16/08/2009 at 16:28

When and why do you change your car? - spikeyhead {p}
I usually sell my everyday cars when they're knackered, the MkII Mondeo went when a suspension leg failed.

Replaced it with a MkIII which I've now had for three years and 78,000 miles.

The weekend cars get changed on whims. The Porsche is for sale now as I'm working in the Netherlands so don't have any chance of driving it. I'll order an Arial Atom once it's sold.
When and why do you change your car? - Andrew-T
In order to keep any value I will have to sell it before it hits 100k ...


Forget its value, Rattle - that is probably not a lot more than scrap, realistically. If a car's resale value becomes the sole criterion for keeping it (running) then you are bored with it - i.e. no longer interested.

If you can afford only one vehicle, and it is essential transport, your decision is clearly different from a second 'fun' car. Recently I thought about a soft-top instead of my 'fun' GTI, so advertised it. A buyer turned up who was so keen that I could sell for what I paid three years earlier. But with a reliable workhorse in the stable as well, that option was possible.

It's probably better to keep a car you have got to know and rely on, instead of starting on the hassle of finding a (better) one, which we all know could take you months ... :-)
When and why do you change your car? - old crocks
I would probably keep my next car for around five years.

>>I just don't want to be one of these many people that keeps the same car for years and years.

You just can't make your mind up, Rattle :-)

Despite being from the south I think of myself as an honorary Yorkshireman. Every car is carefully chosen after much research, bought at a good price, and then run until the MOT man says no.

I often think it would be nice to change but can never justify the expense while the present car is still fulfilling all the requirements.

As a result of the above policy, in 37 years of driving I have never sold a car, except for scrap.
When and why do you change your car? - Rattle
I fear I might end up like that but I am not sure I would be happy driving a 100k scruffy £250 Corsa which is all my car would be by then. I used to have an old banger and I just wasn't happy with it but maybe that was because I didn't know the history of it.

However if my car works perfectly then no matter how bored I am I just cannot justify changing it. I do like cars so much though as much as I hate buying them!

One thing I do have in mind is to give my Corsa to my dad in a years time, as his Fiesta will be 13 years old by then and will have over 90k on it.

I wish I could justify a weekend car but I can't afford it :).
When and why do you change your car? - old crocks
I wish I could justify a weekend car but I can't afford it :).


Despite my careful approach above I also have a Westfield buried in the garage which I built myself years ago. If only I could find the time to resurrect it.

Please don't tell Humph, he'll only go all nostalgic!
When and why do you change your car? - stunorthants26
I have, since 1997, owned in excess of 60 different cars. Most of them I regret ( Volvo 460, Reliant Rialto, Suzuki Carry and Daewoo Matiz aside as they were all brilliant ). Ive wasted thousands of pounds and have little to show for it, so when I traded in my Carry van for my Charade, I swore I would try and stick to a car for a long time.

So far so good - 15 months and 18000 miles and counting. I still dont feel that itch to change it either. The misses thinks its partly lack of funds and partly because I have other things to spend my money on, such as our up and coming house purchase.
It is also quite frankly, the most useful car ive ever owned and to replace it would be pretty much a step down with the balance of running costs, practicality and reliability -ts only worth £1800 aswell.

Im quite chuffed with myself really and my dad is most suprised.

As to why one changes their car, thats easy - a combination of man-maths and boredom, both of which have emptied many a sensible mans wallet. Plus a true petrolhead simply has to try things they see - I think we transfer the notion of sleeping with many women to buying many cars instead - thats what the misses reckons anyway!
When and why do you change your car? - Alby Back
Too right re the Westie OC !

On the "normal" stuff though I confess to not really having a strategy. Nature of what I do is that some years I'm quite well orf don't y'know and others I'm totally borasic.

Resultantly my view of values and sense of financial responsibility changes accordingly !

On balance though, probably averagely avery 2-3 years. Having said that, I've kept some cars as little as 6 months and others for 5 years.

My back was injured quite badly in a riding accident about 15 years ago and since then I've found it to be very sensitive to the ergonomics of cars. Some which feel OK when trialled become agony when used for real. When I find a model which suits my ravaged old frame I tend to stick with it longer than I probably should. Like a favourite pair of shoes I suppose.
When and why do you change your car? - LikedDrivingOnce
I normally keep my cars until they become uneconomic to repair. I ran Nissans for years and was very happy with them. In 2006 it coincided with a mid-life crisis where I suddenly became desperate to have at least one "quality" car in my life. (Now well into my fifties, BTW)

So I emptied the piggy bank and searched behind the seats on the sofa and bought a new 3 series BMW, in which I've now done 51 thousand miles. I am hyper critical of it, but in reality it is a good car. However it doesn't fit the bill, because it isn't "me". I dream of a luxury cruiser that practically drives itself, instead of one which demands driver involvement. It also needs to look good. (Off-roaders and estate cars need not apply.)

So I am anxious to have another try at getting a car that I really feel good about, and am saving as hard as I can for a decent low-mileage example. However, what with the credit crunch, and the fact that I am not rich, I may have a long wait.

To put this into perspective, though, there are people in the world really, really suffering. My "problems" are as nothing compared to theirs.
When and why do you change your car? - gordonbennet
My "problems" are as nothing compared to theirs.


Good of you to spare a thought for the poor old MP's having to repay some of their ill gotten LDO..;)

Will you stay with BMW by the way, but maybe a larger auto for example?
When and why do you change your car? - LikedDrivingOnce
Will you stay with BMW by the way but maybe a larger auto for example?

Excellent question! You've really made me think.

BMW say that they'll definitely be building a 3-series hatchback (a smaller brother of the new 5 GT). I'd be interested in this, especially if the 8-speed auto box is better than the disappointing 6-speeder in my car.

I have extreme respect for BMW, and my local BMW dealer has been wonderful. OTOH I *LOVE* Audi and Mercedes-Benz - though I've never been able to afford either!

I am also intrigued by the new Audi A5 Liftback. The prospect of a handsome coupe which is also practical and comfortable is irresistible.

So, on-topic, here is my answer to the OP. I'll just waiting for the model that I want to come on the market, then I'll get a low mileage used one.
When and why do you change your car? - gordonbennet
The prospect of a handsome
coupe which is also practical and comfortable is irresistible.


I'm surprised you haven't got your eye on the 2007 on 3 series coupe then, if i was changing tomorrow i'd be having one of those, such a beautiful car so sleek and capable.
I'd like a 335i....maybe a 335d but i'm unconvinced about the long term ownership of ultra modern Diesels, however the torque of that Diesel could prove irresistable to me.

Luckily (or not) we have 2 more years before the house is ours so nothing will happen till then.

As to the OP, we change when we find a vehicle that fits our main criteria of something that doesn't bore us to tears and our present vehicle is no longer fulfilling the role it was bought for.
When and why do you change your car? - LikedDrivingOnce
I'm surprised you haven't got your eye on the 2007 on 3 series coupe then
if i was changing tomorrow i'd be having one of those such a beautiful car
so sleek and capable.


GB - you are so right about the looks. Some people think that the 3 coupe is too understated. Personally, I love its looks.

Please don't laugh, but the only thing that stops me wanting one is the fact that it only has a boot. I'm limited by the fact that I need more practicality. That's why the Audi Liftback is so intriguing. It will probably not be as good as the BMW, but at least it may tick ALL the boxes.
(And you can get it in quattro form, with a DSG gearbox)

But I really, really, really wish that the 335d Coupe had a hatch!
When and why do you change your car? - Old Navy
We are lucky to live in an affluent country, our bangernomics would be considered luxury in some parts of the world. I have been in taxis where the drivers heels have worn through the floor, and where cars are repaired or bodged, not "component replaced". They replace their cars when they are beyond any repair, not economical repair. When do I change my car? After about 6 years or 100K miles, still almost new.
When and why do you change your car? - Armstrong Sid
My car changing habits have altered with age - and the money which goes with age. I started driving in the mid 70s when there were still credit restrictions - try explaining them to the kids today (but also try explaining them to bankers and we might not be in quite so much of a financial mess)

For the benefit of those who weren't car-buying in the 1970s, if you wanted a loan for a car, regardless of the price of it, you had to have 33% deposit and pay off the balance in 24 months. eg If the car was £1500, you had to have £500 (cash or p-ex) and then you had to pay the remaining £1000 over two years. So in those days I used to take the biggest loan I could afford, and then immediately start the countdown until my two year loan was paid off so I could change my car and start another two year loan, and then look forward to when I'd paid that one off in two years so I could change my car again and start another loan etc etc.

So I used to change cars religiously every two years, purely because of the finance regulations of the time. I would've like to change more often, but I couldn't afford it in those days

Now I can afford to change more often if I wanted to, I just can't be bothered. I keep them for three, four, five years until I feel like a change of scenery.
When and why do you change your car? - alfatrike
i got given my current car, mk 2 Mondeo saloon 2L petrol. had minor accident damage and the guy just wasn't interested. i found the required bits cheap, patched it up and used it ever since. over 155K miles now and going up. it does what it says on the (rusty) tin. when the time comes to get rid i'll stick it on ebay, someone will buy it.
When and why do you change your car? - Sofa Spud
Soon and because they are both 15 years old and wearing out!
When and why do you change your car? - Kevin
I used to change my cars like I changed my shreddies - at least twice a year.

I think I've settled down a bit though, now I'm getting older.

At the moment I have a daily-driver XJ that I've had for six years and a weekend-hooligan Chevy that I've had for thirteen years. There isn't a better car than an XJ for rush-hour commute and the Chevy is a pure fun blue-collar brute.

When I change the Jag it will be another XJ so there's no rush. If and when I change the Chevy it will probably be an Ultima.

I think I've settled down a bit though, now I'm getting older.

Oops, did I say that already?

Kevin...
When and why do you change your car? - mike hannon
Rattle, if you are getting bored why are you considering buying an Astra or a Focus?
I used to change my cars quite frequently, mainly due to boredom and then I found the secret - buy cars that aren't boring!
When and why do you change your car? - BobbyG
I would second that Mike, no offence to Rattle, but at this stage his aspiration is to change to a Mk1 Focus and keep for 5 years! I would just stick to the Corsa.

I usually change my car every 3 years when it comes out of manufacturers warranty and this usually also coincides with the loan being paid!

However my Seat is just past its 2 year mark and I am really getting itchy to change but I am determined to try and keep this car for 5 years!! Sometimes I wonder if it is getting the new car, or, in a perverse sort of way, its the enjoyment I get from looking for a new car that is greater!

You know the sort of thing, it starts with some comments to the missus about this or that maybe being wrong or annoying with the car, see what reaction you get. Then step it up a bit to maybe commenting on car adverts in the paper or pointing cars out while you drive. Then as soon as he starts to admit that she likes the look of car x then you know you're in there, the car hunting process can begin! Yes it might take 6 months but thats when the fun begins!

But sadly for me , I think it will be another 2 or 3 years especially when I look back and realise the sheer amount of money I have spent on cars and the reality that if I had kept with my first "proper" car, a ZX Turbo Diesel estate, it would probably be still on the road now and in return I could have better holidays and probably could clear my mortgage !!
When and why do you change your car? - andyfr
We buy new and change both our cars at 5 years/40,000 miles. By that time the depreciation has levelled out, apart from tyres and maybe brakes nothing has usually needed to be replaced.
When and why do you change your car? - astrabob
Only replace cars when I have to.

1st car - VW Polo - 97k - Written off Jan 1988

2nd car - Austin Maestro - 61k - Unreliable - Sold June 1988

3rd car - Ford Escort - 152k - Written off April 1993

4th car - Peugeot 405 - 220k - Unreliable - Sold Oct 1996

5th car - Peugoet 405 - 222k - Written off Feb 2003

6th car - Vauxhall Astra - 212k - now the wife's car

7th car - Vauxhall Vectra - 41k (company car)

So my reasons for getting rid of a car are generally someone's driven into the back of it, or else it costs a fortune in spare parts.
When and why do you change your car? - Mapmaker
When I have to:

2001: Renault 21. MOT failure list as long as arm.
2003: MkI Polo. Drinking oil & stinking in the cabin.
2004: W123 - nicked
2004: W123 - nicked
2005: Audi 100 - died
2009: Vectra - finally chucked the hated item. Did I *really* drive it for that long?
When and why do you change your car? - DP
My commuter gets changed when it becomes unreliable / uneconomical to repair. I won't spend more than a couple of grand on whatever it is because it gets knocked to kingdom come in public car parks and it's just not worth the tears. The Volvo sports several parking dents and two bumper scrapes, none of which happened while the car was even occupied, never mind in motion. It currently gets a clean bill of health every MOT and it wafts me to work in smooth, spacious, well equipped, "orthopaedically designed seated" comfort, and without incident.

While that remains the case, and barring a stupid hike in fuel prices, there is just no sense in changing it. Old and leggy as it is, it's not a rattlebox or a heap, everything works, it's supremely comfortable, has everything I need (and lots I don't) in the way of kit, and still goes well enough to play in the fast lane if I so choose. I've been in cars costing ten times what I paid for it which feel cheap, harsh and brittle in comparison.

The family wagon was changed last on reliability grounds. We loved our old Grand Scenic, and in functional terms it was THE perfect family car. Unfortunately, at 60k, it started failing with power steering problems, random electrical faults and bits of the interior falling off. A four figure bill out of the blue for a clutch failure with no prior warning was the final straw. Off she went. Current Golf is doing sterling service, and finances dictate it will need to for some time. Just don't have the money to throw at cars at the moment, but at least we seem to have two which won't be a chore to keep for a couple of years.

Cheers
DP
When and why do you change your car? - Dodge
Used to buy new regularly, all at discount thru brokers. however the scrappage scheme has led to few discounts so will now hold off til next year when second leg of this depression will kick in and discounts back on agenda. You could easily get £3k off a supermini last year, these have disappeared this Spring.

Answer to original question "when the new car smell fades ie about 12 months"
When and why do you change your car? - stokie
Tend to buy 8 year old cars and keep them 4 years. Dispose of them when the boredom level exceeds the will to carry on repairing
When and why do you change your car? - TheOilBurner
I generally change mine every 9 months on average. Although since having kids finances have dictated that I stretch that out a bit. The last three have been 13, 22 and then 19 months.

To me, longer than a year seems an eternity!

I think I enjoy the process of looking for, buying and selling cars and get a buzz out of it. And I get bored with new purchases quickly too.

I should probably make a living selling cars, but I'm too ugly and it might scare the punters off! ;)

Last change was 1 month ago, I swore blind that I'd keep it 3-4 years when I got it, but then I always say that...
When and why do you change your car? - William Stevenson
Buy sensible car relatively new. Keep for 10-15 years with only minimal problems. Reject concepts such as 'boredom' in relation to cars.
When and why do you change your car? - jase1
Alternatively (and this is my trick for the second car):

Buy cheap Korean car at about 3 or 4 years old for about £1200. Keep for 8-10 years with only minimal problems, and haul to the scrapyard when it falls apart.

Depends on how much you can reject "boredom" concepts really. For a second car I just don't care!

Both of ours are aging now and both are up for test/tax soon. If either fails test (and the Nissan's PAS pump is noisy, a potentially expensive repair) then I will be out shopping again soon.
When and why do you change your car? - perro
>>> Reject concepts such as 'boredom' in relation to cars.<<<

There are 2 types of car owner comrade Stevenson - one buys with the heart and one buys with the head ... un-fortunately, I fall into the former but - at 57 I'm learning fast?
When and why do you change your car? - TheOilBurner
BReject concepts such as 'boredom' in relation to cars.


My head agrees with you, my heart cannot!

I've had the same dishwasher, oven, washing machine, fridge and freezer for 9 years now. I'm not bored with them because they're purely functional devices.

The day cars become simple, functional devices, is the day when sites like this one stop existing! Who wants to go and spend their spare time talking about a snazzy dishwasher you saw the other day, or comment on how the neighbours look after their washing machine? ;)

There has always been and always will be an emotional aspect to cars and driving, and with the good emotions like joy and exhilaration come the negatives one like pride and boredom...
When and why do you change your car? - perro
>>>I've had the same dishwasher, oven, washing machine, fridge and freezer for 9 years now. I'm not bored with them because they're purely functional devices.<<<

Pre-cisely! ... I've had my old washer for 13 years now and have every intention of *NOT* replacing it in the near future (AEG) but cars, well - say n'more squire (haha!)
When and why do you change your car? - Tornadorot
I've had my A3 1.6 for over 8 years (and about 120k miles) now, but that is due to end tomorrow, thanks to VW's special scrappage offer on Golfs, and a 1.4TSI sitting at my local VW dealer due to a cancelled order :-)

I didn't really intend to keep it so long, but it's soldiered on without any really major work being required on the mechanicals (biggest job I think was a new water pump and cambelt change a couple of years ago) and there's not a lot I don't like about the car - can't say boredom has ever really been a problem for me! On the other hand, the bodywork has been going a bit rotten round the edges for a few years now, and it's a bit of an uphill struggle trying to keep it looking neat.

It goes against the grain to scrap a car that could still have a good few miles left in it (even at 172k on the clock) but at this age I suppose it could become an economic write-off at any time anyway.

Edited by Typ 8L on 17/08/2009 at 15:40

When and why do you change your car? - Rob81
I've usually changed mine when I realise they were bought without thought of practicality (recent examples include a Citroen Acadiane, xantia activa, xm petrol turbo estate and a cx 2.5 auto). Being a community nurse and skint, my current £200 Bx is proving reliable enough and Citroen enough to last me a little while. Having had 21 citroens in the last 10 years, I console myself with the thought that none were so expensive I lost fortunes when I sold/scrapped them a few months into ownership.