I'm generally pleased with this car but cannot believe how long it takes Nissan to source and supply parts.
Having waited 10 weeks for new shockers to be fitted I am now 6 weeks into a wait for replacement alloys.
I'm convinced that had I not made a fuss i would still be waiting for the shock absorbers until Christmas.
Is this typical?
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Was it an upgrade or something Halmer, the original shockers can't have been worn surely.
Whats wrong with the alloys?
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Hi GB
It's the second replacement set. It's a known problem and hundreds of the rear ones are failing but in their wisdom Nissan have apparently shipped out more faulty ones to dealers.
The two front alloys are showing signs of corrosion and this too is common along with a skwaking aux belt.
Other than that it's a decent petrol car.
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Blimey Halmer, the designer of the Nissan Bluebird must be pulling his hair out over what they've done to the memory of his 200K trouble free car.
Surprised they've let this become a known problem though without a swift recall and replacement with good ones.
Let me guess...the alloys are diamond cut and laquered?
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When I took my QQ in, they were able to supply and fit replacements by the next day. This may be because mine is a 4WD which apparently uses a different part to the 2WD variant.
The original parts being used have had a shocking failure rate, but latest replacements (including mine) appear to have come from a different source.
Edited by Steve Pearce on 13/06/2009 at 20:14
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I followed one of these the other day and the N/S rear was bouncing like a tennis ball about to be served. I did think how could the driver not notice it, it must have been rattling his fillings out.
Is this the problem?
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Hi GB It's the second replacement set. It's a known problem and hundreds of the rear ones are failing but in their wisdom Nissan have apparently shipped out more faulty ones to dealers.
And what else exactly are they supposed to do?
Think about it, if there is a 'known problem' then the parts well need to be redesigned, prototypes made, tested, then the suppliers have to ramp up production of the modified parts, then those parts have to move down the supply chain... this cannot be done overnight!
in the meanwhile, something has to be fitted to get the cars back on the road, or would you rather be walking?
think of the cost involved if everyone was put in hire cars.
of course, if there was a chance of accidents being caused, then the cars would be taken off the road. if you remember some cars have been recalled and modified, 2 i can think of are the early A class Merc, and the early Audi TT.
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Any minute now someone's going to tell us that this particular Nissan part comes from Renault.
Not like the old days when it used to rain Datsun cogs. :)
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>>rain Datsun cogs. :)
Thank you Avant for that historical reminder.
Now, how about the three rabbits called foot, foot foot and foot foot foot . ;>)
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6 months ago, I visited a Nissan showroom because my company car was due for renwal and I was interested in a Primera. I didn't know they had been discontinued, the salesman told me we don't do that size car anymore because everybody else makes them so we like to be different, he then showed me the Qashqai, needless to say, it wasn't my choice of vehicle.
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I thought Jap cars were supposed to be ultra reliable...
Edited by b308 on 14/06/2009 at 09:15
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Nissan were bombproof - but their reputation declined at the same time as they were taken over according to some.
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It's a well made car but not ultra reliable in my case. I've had a few niggles but then again I've never had a car that has been perfect in its early life.
Yes the back end does spring about - the shock absorbers basically come adrift as the rubber bush bonding fails.
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Why not stick some Spax or Koni's on em.
Nissan/Datsun have never bin bomb-proof - they've always trailed behind Toyota + Suburu + Mazda + Mitsi etc.
Still good cars though - my 1.8 Almera is, well - bomb-proof.
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Nissan/Datsun have never bin bomb-proof
Umpteen thousand cabbies would argue the toss with that one.
Was there a more reliable long service car than the many incarnations of Bluebird...with all due respect to Sir Malcolm Campbell's legacy.
Primera's are known for their durability too, and if you want to go to the deadliest places in the world...and come back, the Patrol or Landcruiser are still the best choices.
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I had two primeras, both never let me down, never had a oil leak, or a breakage of any discription.
May be the dealers were always rubbish, but in the old days you only saw them at a recall, or service time.
The qashqai stands at 11th place in the jd powers, yet appears to have more faults than all four nissans i have had together.
I honestly believe the days of japenese reliabilty, durablity are now over, short of a Lexus, which do not make a car i desire, all the rest are no better than a good european offering.
I will probably change my latest xtrail in four years time, by that time i will be looking at the korean offering again.
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Datsun's were rust buckets - well, the ones I saw were.
A weak spot on the Bluebird's were camshaft lobes
The latest JD Power thingy marks the Almera well down - must be a totally different car to the one I own!
If I woz going to buy a gnu car today, I honestly haven't a clue what I would go for, I've had me eyes on the QQ but I dunno - perhaps I'll keep the ole Almera 4 now.
I had it 2.5 years now - which is a long time for me!
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I appreciate shockers are not made in the factory.
But shutdowns and short-time working must have an impact on the production schedules of the component makers.
The supply of quite a few parts could be a bit hit and miss for the next few months.
Even more reason to have a main dealer onside.
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primeras and bluebirds were primarily know for their ability to rust. not many left now.
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When i was a kid my dad had a secondhand '83 Datsu Cherry and it was the reliability in the face of 100k of thrashing which ocnvinced him on japanese cars. He said it would sit at 90 all day foot to the floor and never miss a beat. Metallic rose red with tan interior, those were the days. In short, they have in the past made durable cars.
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my dad had a secondhand '83 Datsu Cherry in Metallic rose red with tan interior,
The amount of those I've tuned & roadtested in my days - Cherry + Sunny + Bluebird + Laurel and the Patrol.
Edited by Webmaster on 18/06/2009 at 01:48
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It was the early datsuns that rusted away, and also the first honda accord i had was rusting away at 2.5 years.
I had no rust on both my primeras, the last one i keep for four years, my lad then kept it for another 3 years, still with no rust. The last one had a 6 year rust performation warrentry anyway, can't remember if the first did, better in every repect to the bluebird.
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'primeras and bluebirds were primarily know for their ability to rust. not many left now.'
Well my Primera at 11 years showed no rust, same with wifes Almera. Also inherited a Cherry, That was not rusting at 15 years. Agree not many Bluebirds about, but, loads of 10 yr plus Primeras around here.
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primeras and bluebirds were primarily know for their ability to rust. not many left now.>>
Untrue - well certainly not as far as Primeras are concerned. They are known for going on and on and most died because their owners got bored with their reliability. My son's 2000W Primera has absolutely no rust on it at all.
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On our 2007 Mazda 2, we had to wait ten weeks for an HT Lead. The 2 was buit in Spain by Ford - based on the Fusion.
Mazda only fitted one then when I insisted they fit the Ford part (available the day after)
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The 70's Japanese cars did rust badly. So did the early BL collaborations with Honda - Triumph Acclaim & the first Rover 213, but they drove so smoothly, & what a gem of a gearbox compared to the BL ones. It's a while ago but I don't recall that many mechanical problems & no electrical ones; although no doubt someone will have a better memory than mine!
I guess it took a while for the Japanese to realise we throw large amounts of salt & grit on our roads every winter
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BTW, Halmer, your best bet is to wait until near the expiry of the warranty to replace the alloys, that way they should still look good when you come to sell it
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