Vista isn't great. I'd try making sure your software is all up to date (Java updates, Flash updates, Windows updates).
If they're all sorted and it's still not working, try installing Firefox, update that and see if it's any better using FF.
Facebook uses some very recent technology on its pages which in some ways is good but for example, the technology doesn't work too well on mobile Safari on my iPod touch.
Edited by Pugugly on 26/10/2008 at 23:03
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One of my offspring is an IT support consultant for one of the UK's largest employers, whose views on Vista are generally scathing, to put it mildly.
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.. Windows Vista. Now when i use Facebook i cant use the 'chat' function
Problem may be due to Facebook chat software/drivers issues, rather than Vista.
.. IT support consultant for one of the UK's largest employers, whose views on Vista are generally scathing, to put it mildly.
I think that says more about his job than Vista. The clue to his problems may be in the words "UK's largest employers". [Not the gubermint by any chance? Even if it is in the private sector, the clue still holds].
Vista is not backwards compatible with many legacy systems/software/hardware that many large Companies just do not have the need or the cash to replace.
On the other hand, those who install everything new [from private individuals to small companies] have found that Vista has been stable at a far earlier stage of its life than any MS OS since windows 98. It is easy to forget how long it took for XP to be accepted to be a good and stable OS since it first went on sale.
[If Vista is so bad, IT support guys should really love Vista as it creates employment for them!].
Edited by jbif on 27/10/2008 at 10:01
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It is easy to forget how long it took for XP to be accepted to be a good and stable OS since it first went on sale.
XP was well regarded as soon as it went on sale as the new stable platform for running windows. Microsoft finally stripped out the 'shell in a shell' subsystem approach that went back to Windows 1.0, and put NT into a media-friendly family PC for the first time.
There's nothing breathtakingly awesome about Vista, which is why people aren't going out there way to buy it.
IMHO the best three releases of Microsoft home PC OS have been 3.1, 95 and XP.
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Windows Vista with its SP1 is as stable as any XP install, and considerably more secure.,
Now that more companies have hardware capable of running it, OEM software vendors are writing software for it, and Sp1 has come along, most companies are running trials and planning to roll it out.
I suggest stuartli's son learns to love it or he wont have a job.
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>>I suggest stuartli's son learns to love it or he wont have a job.>>
Er, actually he will...:-)
The remarks arise from people's personal use, rather than a business environment.
I've had XP Pro for several years and it's the most stable OS I've used over what is a considerable period of time.
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Tend to agree with Stuartli and SP3 has both extended XP's life and its advantages over Vista.
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Vista will likely be old hat in the not too distant future in any case - its replacement, Windows 7, formerly tagged Blackcomb and then Vienna, has been underway for some time.
Don't forget either than Microsoft and, for example, Dell bowed to pressure from many businesses wishing to stick with XP rather than move to Vista. Hence the final support date for XP has been put back.
Edited by Stuartli on 27/10/2008 at 13:43
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Baskerville
Nice one..:-)
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Baskerville Nice one..:-)
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And it wil be three years late!................
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And it wil be three years late!................
If it's on schedule I'll open source my hat.
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Tend to agree with Stuartli and SP3 has both extended XP's life and its advantages over Vista.
SP3 has changed nothing - it was a packaged roll-up of previous fixes
Its adavntages over vista are? (apart from being able to run on old hardware, people dont make money on old hardware )
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XP SP3 is more than simply a bundle of previous fixes. In addition to Network Access Protection protocols which gives XP SP3 the same compatibilty with Server 2008 as Vista has and thus makes it even more appealing to corporate users who were reluctant to move to Vista (and has also made Server 2008 more appealing to corporates that might be / had been looking at Linux servers).
Also it is said that numerous refinements speed up the OS and make it a little less memory intensive to the extent that it can run up to 20% faster than XP SP2 on some systems, and XP SP2 was already typically faster than Vista.
It is true that MS have tried to keep Vista as the "premium product" by, for instance not including IE7 within SP3 (though most who download SP3 will already have IE7) though the inclusion of the NAP protocols is a clear acknowledgment that Vista does not cover all bases.
Edited by cheddar on 27/10/2008 at 16:39
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I've had XP Pro for several years and it's the most stable OS I've used over what is a considerable period of time
IMO - It was only after SP2 that the multitude of BSODs were got rid of.
not including IE7 within SP3
AFAIK - The reasons for that are legal [ EU and US anti-trust suits ], and nothing to do with trying to "keep Vista as the "premium product"". However, consumers are free then to install IE7 or Firefox or Opera, thereby getting around the legal limitations.
Edited by jbif on 27/10/2008 at 17:05
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>>IMO - It was only after SP2 that the multitude of BSODs were got rid of.>>
My comment relates to both before and after SP2 - the sheer bliss of not having to sort out, for instance, Windows 98 and 98SE on a regular basis is still fondly remembered.
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AFAIK - The reasons for that are legal [ EU and US anti-trust suits ] >>
I dont think so, after all IE7 is bundled with Vista. And XP N etc was made available to get around media player anti trust issues.
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I dont think so, after all IE7 is bundled with Vista
This claims to give the real reason:
blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/05/05/ie-and-xpsp3....x
"If you are currently running IE7 on XPSP2, Windows Update will offer you XPSP3 as a high priority update. If you choose to install XPSP3, Internet Explorer 7 will remain on your system after the install is complete. Your preferences will be retained. However, you will no longer be able to uninstall IE7. If you go to Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs, the Remove option will be grayed out.
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If you install IE7 after you install XPSP3, then you will be able to uninstall IE7 at any point and be reverted to the newer IE6 version that ships in XPSP3. "
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I've just checked your observation regarding IE7 - you are perfectly correct...:-)
However, the few additional features added to SP3, apart from covering all the previous updates to the time of its release, are of little consequence to most XP users.
Interestingly, some of the WindowsUpdate updates for a couple of months or so after SP3 was made available in Final form were stated to already be on your system if you had installed SP3.
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However you will no longer be able to uninstall IE7. If you go to Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs the Remove option will be grayed out. .... If you install IE7 after you install XPSP3 then you will be able to uninstall IE7 at any point and be reverted to the newer IE6 version that ships in XPSP3. "
jbif, I dont think that explains why IE7 is not bundled with SP3, yes it is true that you can remove IE7 though you can uninstall SP3 itself and revert to SP2 which enables you to revert to IE6 and still get all security updates etc so the choice is still there.
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XP SP3 is more than simply a bundle of previous fixes. In addition to Network Access Protection protocols which gives XP SP3 the same compatibilty with Server 2008 as Vista has and thus makes it even more appealing to corporate users who were reluctant to move to Vista (and has also made Server 2008 more appealing to corporates that might be / had been looking at Linux servers).
Of no consequence - no-one is rolling out server 2008
Also it is said that numerous refinements speed up the OS and make it a little less memory intensive to the extent that it can run up to 20% faster
20% faster? ROFL- it is said It is also said the earth is flat by some people - both are rubbish and even denied by microsoft
Lets see what MS says about SP3 shall we?
Windows® XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released updates for the operating system. This update also includes a small number of new functionalities, which do not significantly change customers? experience with the operating system. This white paper summarizes what is new in Windows XP SP3.
Now as they make it - i think they know about what they speak.
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Now as they make it - i think they know about what they speak.
Microsoft is in a tricky position. On the one hand Vista was horrible at release and a lot of people lost confidence in MS. Many of those early adopters still have the underpowered hardware they started with and for them Vista is still horrible, but Ubuntu Linux runs very well indeed. On the other it wants its existing customers who have XP to believe it is behaving responsibly and supportively by continuing to keep XP updated. It needs to sell Vista, and later Windows 7, so it can't do anything to XP to make it better. In fact in its current business model Microsoft would be insane to expend any energy on improving XP beyond security updates. The enormous Netbook market must be a nightmare, since XP has suddenly been pressed into service again out of necessity on the less powerful hardware.
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Having just evaluated a dell inspiron mini net book, I have to say that its underpowered even for XP
Netbooks are made for linux territory,
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Lets see what MS says about SP3 shall we?
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Now as they make it - i think they know about what they speak.
Yes marketing speak, they want to keep Vista as the perceived premium product though at the same time enhance XP because they recognise that Vista either doesnt cover all bases or doesnt warrant the cost to upgrade/relearn.
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Well, that's the platform wars at a pause - did the OP get Facebook working in the end then?
:-)
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