Another Fifth Gear Thread - Pendlebury

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{Originally titled "Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night", but renamed as per all the previous 5th gear threads. DD}

Just to let you all know 5th gear starts again on Monday.
I think I will watch 1st episode to see if it is as bad as usual and if so will make sure I am out on Monday's or take up knitting.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 05/02/2008 at 19:28

Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
Don't be so mean spirited. You might be surprised and enjoy it. At least you might find some articles that relate to motoring as we mere mortals know it, unlike that other programme shown on the BBC, which now is legendary now due to its stale format, unfortunately.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - bell boy
you wont find me on the log roll of watchers monday night i would rather sit on a hair pin,much more exciting i bet
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - backtodiesel
I agree very painful programme!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Dynamic Dave
Actually the last series wasn't too bad.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - wazza
I am going to watch it because i love mental torture
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - scotty
and I'm going to watch it just because I like VBH ! OK!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - dxp55
VBH was OK before she went to the school of shouting - squealing and arm waving.
I also shall be sitting on a hat pin.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - milkyjoe
i would rather eat my own hair than watch fifth gear, whens jeremy and the gang back soon i hope
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
i would rather eat my own hair than watch fifth gear whens jeremy and the
gang back soon i hope


Call yourselves motoring enthusiasts? Not, I would imagine.

I'm fast approaching 70 and enjoy everything motoring related, including the Used Car Roadshow!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - ForumNeedsModerating
VBH was OK before she went to the school of shouting - squealing and arm waving..

Yeah, she had much more gravitas & seductiveness before adopting the rather giggly-girl persona - seeing a woman being serious about cars & driving technique (and all things associated) should be in the Daily Mail's women's page top-ten-tips on how to bag Mr Right.

Mind you, giggly-girl mode isn't confined to the female presenters on 5thGear - Tiff's gurgly man-giggle & wan smile irritates me nearly as much as those pictures of motoring journalists with cheshire cat grins, heads tilted with open palmed hands pointing skywards - what is that all about?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - milkyjoe
hey old git dont forget to book your medical and your eye test!!!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
I think that at my age, I am more 'with it' than a lot of people around here. And, by the way, my health is not in question. Now, who use to say that? Yes, I know the answer to that question, by the way. The late, great Mike Dickin - greatly missed.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - milkyjoe
the late great mike dickin, i used to listen to him on talksport wheezing and gasping through the night with his phone in , very entertaining tho and i believe a trained barrister to boot
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - GregSwain
Actually the last series wasn't too bad.


It was marginally better than previous snippets I saw before changing channel due to boredom. Not a patch on Top Gear though. It's awkward, there's no chemistry between the presenters, I'm sure VBH was prettier on the BBC too! ;-)
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Tomo
Thanks, I might have missed it. On checking I find it's immediately after the drag racing on FiveUS, it's a wonder they are not at the same time.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - mike hannon
And five gears is just so last century, isn't it?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - dxp55
Either we are all getting old or this forum is filling up with wipper snappers who have been fed a diet of big bruvver and all other purile reality shows and they think 5th and top is quality TV - £135 or whatever for total rubbish most of time - bring back "what's my line" and in B/W
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Clk Sec
>>>bring back "what's my line" and in B/W

And the Grove Family !

Clk Sec
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Lud
And TWTWTW with cheeky Millicent and Lance Percival who I once had as a punter in my minicab in Clapham (he eyed me narrowly and addressed me as 'Sir' throughout the journey)...
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - rtj70
Showing my age... never saw TWTWTW but for some reason thought I wonder if this stood for "That Was The week That Was". 8 years before I was born.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Lud
Quite right rtj. But you are very young.

I don't suppose you've even seen a monochrome TV set except in a cheap Chinese takeaway, have you? :o)
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - rtj70
Used to have a BW portable actually. And with the old ZX-80 computer we even had (for goodness knows what reason) a stick-on plastic green screen at one point! Why?

I might be (only) nearly 37 but due to an irregular heart beat at times on beta blockers at the moment though! Had other pills recently too.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - neil
"I don't suppose you've even seen a monochrome TV set except in a cheap Chinese takeaway"

Er, Lud - isnt that Monosodium Glutemate?!

;-0)
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
Quite right rtj. But you are very young.
I don't suppose you've even seen a monochrome TV set except in a cheap Chinese
takeaway have you? :o)


"We want Muffin, Muffin the mule. Dear old Muffin playing the fool. We want Muffin, everybody sing. We want Muffin the Mule.

Now that is old - remember watching it, in the very early fifties, on a 9" b/w TV with a magnifying lens over the screen. That was television at its best.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Lud
early fifties on a
9" b/w TV with a magnifying lens over the screen. That was television at its
best.


Not sure I can really agree there og, have to say I welcomed 625 lines and the Sony Trinitron tube on one level, and sixties and seventies drama, satire and current affairs on another.

In the fifties my parents scorned television as a timewaster for vacuous idiots (an attitude not uncommon among the middle classes in those days), so we didn't have one. I used to envy people with more relaxed parents who conversed at school about matters closed to me, and quoted many catchphrases I didn't really get. No doubt this early deprivation explains the hours I spend now yawning in front of schlock movies and scrolling irritably through the channels of carp looking for something to keep me awake.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
We did not own that TV. It was a neighbour or rather a nice family's, whose mother used to 'do for us' and look after me and my sister. We were too poor to own the TV but my father did eventually succumb and we rented TVs for the next 30 years or so from the now extinct Radio Rentals.

Sob, sob, sob.....................
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Tomo
"television as a timewaster for vacuous idiots "

So what's changed?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - bell boy
a magnifying lens over the screen. That was television at its best.


I bought one of those in the sixties with lots of springs to hold it onto the tv,it worked quite well till a tv presenter came on with a suit with stripes in the material,then the picture went crazy
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - drbe
Lance Percival who I once had as a punter
in my minicab in Clapham (he eyed me narrowly and addressed me as 'Sir' throughout
the journey)...


Yes, I think it's called irony ; - )))
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Big Bad Dave
The last series was quite an improvement over the series before, entertaining and watchable. Won't bother with it on Monday though but I'll catch the repeat on Saturday morning while I'm rotting away in bed.

I thought Tim Lovejoy was ok who's that bloke they replaced him with? Seems completely bereft of any kind of personality.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pugugly {P}
In fairness there were some half decent tests on it (see YouTube for clips) Plato can't half drive. I feel its a more worthwhile watch than TG which is aimed at a different type of audience. I enjoy bits of TG as well by the way.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - ForumNeedsModerating
And TWTWTW ..

Referred to as TW3 if you're 'kewl' , or as it was the 60's, 'groovy'.

Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - rtj70
Not sure how to show right on here properly but mathematically TWTWTW = TW^3. TW3 is three times TW whereas TW * TW * TW is TW raised to the power of three. So yes years before I was born it was referred to as TW3 but that was incorrect ;-) Groovy/Cool maybe but incorrect.

Again before I was born but is this the same series/programme with Clease and the two Barkers (before Two Ronnies) with the "I look up to him" scetch?

Fifth gear... must watch that to make a comment. I thought VBH a little foxy on TG on BBC1 on know.... mmmm no.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Altea Ego
rtJ70. Your maths does not count.

It was *at the time* called "that was the week that was", and only years later was it refered to by psuedo intelectuals who want to be cool, as TW3

Yes the barker corbet cleese sketch of "I look up to him but down on him, I know my place" was indeed first aired on that prog. And classic comedy it remains.
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Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - rtj70
My response to TW3 was because that is not correct. It was TWTWTW :-)
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - GroovyMucker
mathematically TWTWTW = TW^3


Erm ... TWTWTW is (TW)^3: TW^3 would be the same as TWWW




Anybody seen my coat?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Dynamic Dave
I thought Tim Lovejoy was ok who's that bloke they replaced him with?


Tom Ford, who's been a presenter on 5th gear for quite some time now.

Tim Lovejoy had no interest in cars, and IIRC, mentioned it on a couple of occasions.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
Tim Lovejoy had no interest in cars and IIRC mentioned it on a couple of
occasions


And so wooden that he made my fence posts seemed animated by comparison - truly awful but well meaning to give him some credit!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - drbe
For me, the problem with Fifth Gear is that it is so childish.

Oh dear! Am I really that old?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - milkyjoe
tim lovejoy wooden? and self centred and smarmy, cant stand the soft southern geezer
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Citroënian {P}
>>tim lovejoy

TL did Soccer am on Sky for a long time and without him, it's now rubbish. Same goes for the All Sports show.

He has a particular kind of humour that either you "get" or you don't. When's he's doing football (or Soccer now) he's brilliant, imho he's pretty good on the Sunday breakfast thing with Simon Rimmer too.

But Lovejoy the chatshow was poor and he didn't suit 5G.

>>self-centered and smarmy
He spends a lot of time laughing at himself, it's the humour of the terraces

VBH is completely useless (again imho) - can't drive and gurns her way through the show. Thought Tom Ford was good as a main presenter, Plato is quite full of himself but Tiff is great. Oh, and that gel-bloke gets on my nerves too. What's that 3-2 against the presenters? Will Sky+ it and fast forward through 60%


Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
>>tim lovejoy
TL did Soccer am on Sky for a long time and without him it's now
rubbish. Same goes for the All Sports show.

>>

Well, that's football for you!!

VBH is completely useless (again imho) - can't drive and gurns her way through the....


That woman is beginning to look ugly now - who knows what she'll look like in twenty years time, not that I will be around to witness it!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - GregSwain
That woman is beginning to look ugly now


At least I'm not the only one saying that - thought it must've been my imagination when nobody agreed with my previous post.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - ForumNeedsModerating
It was *at the time* called "that was the week that was", and only years later was it refered to by psuedo intelectuals who want to be cool, as TW3

Ned Sherrin (its creator) always referred to it as 'TW3' - common practice in kewl TV circles to use an acronym. Can you imagine how tedious it would be to say 'We've got a run-through for Thatwastheweekthatwas in 20mins, Julian/Lance/Milly' a hundred times a day. Just as, I'm sure, the Monty Python crew never said 'What shall be do this week on Monty Python's Flying Circus, any ideas?' . It was always Python.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Lud
Woodbines, you're too hip, baby...
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - ForumNeedsModerating
Woodbines, you're too hip, baby...

Sadly, nearer to hip replacement than hip...(sigh-creak)
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pugugly {P}
"That woman is beginning to look ugly now"

Oh well so that's the decider then, let's not focus on the objective reasons as to why it might be a poor programme. JC's soooooooooo handsome !

Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - milkyjoe

SNIPQUOTE ONCE AGAIN for the lazy person who doesn't read the message that appears on his screen when he clicks the 'the Quote original message button'. The message that says "please keep this thread as readable as possible by EDITING the quote to INCLUDE ONLY RELEVANT TEXT"
JC's soooooooooo handsome !


i know who i,d roll over in bed for!!!
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - GregSwain
Oh well so that's the decider then let's not focus on the objective reasons as
to why it might be a poor programme. JC's soooooooooo handsome !


Well a cynic might imply that the only reason she was given the top on old TG was that she was a bit of eye-candy for the average bloke who wanted a change from Quentin Wilson and Tiff Needell(!!). She no longer serves this purpose.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - madf
My view of 5th Gear is 1: it's rubbish
and
2: It's not worth arguing about
and
3: VBH is the kind of presenter better suited to programs for the under 5s..


madf
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pugugly {P}
Well I watched it. No need to fast forward through the carp bits (like I have to with TC) anyone who didn't watch missed not least what was a real petrol head's soundtrack, BMW 335, A racing JAG (oh yes I want one), and a Maserati test and also old Tiff driving and hammering a Veyron. Better than Corrers......but that Jag WOW !
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - 1066
i was pleasntly surprised. it was nowhere near as bad as the last series.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
Well I watched it. No need to fast forward through the carp bits (like I

>>

To my mind, it's Top Gear that needs recording and then one can FF through at least 50% of the programme. It has pink fluffy dice to do with motoring.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pugugly {P}
Sorry oldgit my inept articulation meant to convey exactly what you said.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - El Hacko
watched it all and, have to say, it was suddenly worth an hour's prog time. All very motoring connected, again only spoiled somewhat for me by VBH's constant and extremely irritating facial contortions to camera
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - madf
I watched the start. Confirmed my prejuices.
Load of rubbish.
madf
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Westpig
it's become watchable again, but i'll obviously be hovvering throughout the series ready to cancel again

'er indoors didn't like it (never has done) although she quite enjoys TG.

p.s. I think PU is a secret Jag man.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Citroënian {P}
Reckon I might have skipped through too much of it at 30x...

Absolutely hated the camera on a pogo stick filming, just can't watch it. And why on earth film the ace cafe bits from other tables, behind the deep fat fryer, under people's coats. All this edgy stuff, for me, is unwatchable.

Tiff was great in the Veryon, Tom Ford was good in the bits I saw him.
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C4, MX5, Cee\'d
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - ForumNeedsModerating
Absolutely hated the camera on a pogo stick filming,


Spot on! Hilarious stuff. I thought the cameraperson must have accidentally sat on the griddle when I saw it, but maybe the director/producer has just graduated from St Martins & needed to show their film school 'credentials'.

Unfortunately, they seem to be picking up TG habits - the 2-storey Smart 'idea' was just plain daft & looked genuinely risky for the bloke doing it - the safety glass shattered all over the place & he wasn't even wearing a full-face safety helmet! The other irritation was the estate car review, all 2 mins of it - if they're going to the trouble of doing it, why not at least give a bit more depth. But maybe that wouldn't have given the-geatest-driver-in-the-history-of-the-planet-and-then-some, his chance to walk around the pine sheds where they make the Bugattis & get all Tiffy about stuff.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - oldgit
All in all, then, I think that it was a quite good programme. Not as polished as TG but a damn sight more interesting. The former needs a makeover; some of its content is very tired now and the JC + two stooges format has become tiresome in extremis.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pendlebury
I couldn't get into it to be honest and turned over to watch Nigella instead - how sad is that - I'm told I missed the best bit with the Veyron but I find Nedell a bit of a plonker so probably would not have enjoyed it anyway.
What on earth were they doing with that estate car test - how pointless was that bit. I learned nothing new at all in what they said.
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - daveyjp
I was trying to sort out a failed phone line with some Indian bod whilst it was on - he didn't listen to me, but I knew what the problem was and sure enough it's fixed this morning.

What I was impressed with was the show actually featured a number of cars!

Audi A5 (although I think this feature was premature - the eyt to be made available 3.2 V6 is probably more of a comparison to the 335 coupe)
BMW
Veyron
Misubishi I
smart
Volvo
Mondeo
Merc
Maserati
Jag
Palmer Audi

Surely this is one element a car show should have plenty of?
Fifth Gear is back - must go out that night. - Pugugly {P}
Mmmm that Jag - I get a strange hankering...
11 Sep - Citroënian {P}
I guess everyone has given up on 5G now, and in fairness it's still mostly rubbish.

however

The R8 vs Carrera 4S with Plato and Tiff last night was very good.
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C4, MX5, Cee\'d
11 Sep - oldgit
The R8 vs Carrera 4S with Plato and Tiff last night was very good.

SNIPQUOTE once again!

What was 'very good' about that? It told you absolutely nothing other than two guys revving the guts out of and burning the rubber from two cars - this is the 'rubbish' part of ALL these programmes!
11 Sep - nick
I watched it last night just for the Modus/Volvo item. Apart from that I found it mildly irritating. I won't be watching again.
11 Sep - Xileno {P}
Likewise. I only watched it for the crash test. Won't be tuning in again. I find Needell and Henderson a turn off. And that SUV 'test'. We learned nothing from that except the Honda CRV has a dashboard made partly from recycled tyres.

Very poor program IMO.
11 Sep - Citroënian {P}
Blimey, did everyone collectively get out of the wrong side of bed today?

A bad as it may be, it's a motoring programme in "peak hours" on a major channel.

Or would everyone prefer another house-doing-up, cookery, reality, antiques or soap opera show?

Fifth gear isn't the entertainment programme TG is - BUT - for utter rubbish, choose from Big Brother, Cash in the Attic, Ready Steady Cook, Wife Swap, What not to Wear, Eastenders...

Come on, it's sunny outside!!
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C4, MX5, Cee\'d
11 Sep - Leif
A bad as it may be it's a motoring programme in "peak hours" on a
major channel.



I can't get Channel 5 living as I do in the backwaters called Luton. You can't get it in Brixham, Devon either.

I liked 5'th Gear more than TG. At least there was some pretention to reviewing cars, rather than driving fast cars at high speed with cheesy grins. Mind you I sometimes hated Tiifs bits. Smug smile, smug "When I was a professional racing driver" comments, and driving at high speed in a fast car (yawn).
11 Sep - Garethj
I can't get Channel 5 living as I do in the backwaters called Luton.


You probably can with a signal booster, although the picture is still quite poor
11 Sep - nick
I find TG entertaining with some genuine wit shown, there's a real chemistry between the three of them. 5th Gear is just irritating; camera work done by a recent graduate from a media studies course, smug and cheesy presenters, ugh!
11 Sep - Leif
You probably can with a signal booster although the picture is still quite poor



Sadly not. I have an external portable aerial plugged into an amp, which in turn feeds to a cable which acts as an aerial, and that goes into a signal booster, before going into the TV card. The loft aerial is worse.
11 Sep - oldgit
Very poor program IMO.


Yes, but there is a dearth of motoring related programmes on TV nowaday. Gone are the days of say, 'getting your car ready for winter or summer motoring' and how to clean your contact breaker points!
11 Sep - Pendlebury
Oldgit - what are contact breaker points, I've heard of contact lenses - are they similar ?
11 Sep - oldgit
Something's gone wrong with the subject title i.e 11 Sep!!

With regard to your trouble, distinguishing between the two, I can't think of a witty retort!
11 Sep - Dynamic Dave
Something's gone wrong with the subject title i.e 11 Sep!!


It's the date that 5th gear was on this week, and discussions relating to that episode (well, initially the discussion was anyway)
Sep 24th Episode - Citroënian {P}
Can't believe that gurning numpty trying to teach a Police Instructor how to drive.....

Tom Ford : "I still think you (VBH) would make a better police driver than he would a racer"

{switches off}


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07 Kia Ceed LS
05 Citroën C4 VT
04 Mazda MX5
85 Mini Mayfair
Sep 24th Episode - backtodiesel
VBH = AH
Sep 24th Episode - daveyjp
Police "Don't forget to check your mirrors"
VBH "I can't even see out of that one [drivers door], he he he"

Highly amusing - not.
Sep 24th Episode - Round The Bend
Agree with above comments. Only tuned in for 10 mins or so, but saw the the police driving section (sad and painful) and Plato drooling over the Beany Woman (embarrassing).
Sep 24th Episode - tyro
And Plato drooling over the Beany Woman (embarrassing).


I've never watched this programme. I take it that Plato is a dog?
Sep 24th Episode - Dynamic Dave
I take it that Plato is a dog?


Jason Plato. His other career at the moment is Touring car driver for Seat.
Sep 24th Episode - tyro
He's not a dog, but he drools over people?!? :-o

Now that is embarrassing.
Sep 24th Episode - dxp55
Switched over- saw caravan and switched back - did I miss anything exciting -- I do miss my small TV sometimes - A 52" makes the carp programs look 10 times worse.
Sep 24th Episode - Leif
> and Plato drooling over the Beany Woman (embarrassing).


What is a Beany Woman? Is it one of those stuffed toys that were once popular?
Sep 24th Episode - Citroënian {P}
>>What is a Beany Woman? Is it one of those stuffed toys that were once popular?

ha ha ha
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07 Kia Ceed LS
05 Citroën C4 VT
04 Mazda MX5
85 Mini Mayfair
Sep 24th Episode - Mr.Tee43
I watch this on a regular basis and the new series is much better than last years.In my opinion the gem of that show is Jason Plato.He is a natural when talking to camera and he certainly knows what he is talking about and has nothing to prove unlike VBH who has an inflated opinion of her capabilities, and her schoolgirl squealing annoys the hell out of me.

Tiff is OK but the predictable power slides are just that.

More Plato I say !
Sep 24th Episode - oldgit
More Plato I say !


Thank you Jason, for that!


Sep 24th Episode - malteser
Fifth Gear - saw it on SKY recently.
Utterly horrible, common, oikish male presenters, too full of themselves.
VBH is now really ugly, no upper lip at all, too!

Total carp.
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Roger. (Costa del Sol, España)
Sep 24th Episode - Pugugly {P}
Well to me the star of the show was the M3. I want one.
Sep 24th Episode - Westpig
Well to me the star of the show was the M3. I want one.

trouble is you wouldn't want to park it anywhere for fear of it being nicked and/or worrying about burglars targetting you for the same reason

i think the answer would be to hire one once a year and take it abroad for a driving holiday

did look a pretty sorted car didn't it
Sep 24th Episode - Big Bad Dave
I'm enjoying this series.

M3 item was good. Always enjoy seeing 40 tonne trucks, ditto Sarah Beany. The fat men hill-climbing the super minis was amusing. Must find that stretch of road and try it out sometime.

VBH must be listening to critisisisism because I think she's toned the giggling down a bit.
Sep 24th Episode - helicopter
Started to watch it - fell asleep......
Sep 24th Episode - johnsnc
I failed to be entertained by some fast car or other driven by a smug person smoking its tyres a lot ....
Wookie flips it ! - henry k
I failed to be entertained by some fast car or other driven by a smug person smoking its tyres a lot ....

>>

Poetic justice?
www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002410000-2007440853,...l

and a footnote and a slide show ;-))
Sep 24th Episode - jase1
The fat men hill-climbing the super minis was amusing. Must find that stretch of road and try
it out sometime.


What the heck was that strange little French contraption then?

I was expecting it to be some Indian import or something, but £8000 for a badly-implemented, boxy Smart clone? Are they having a laugh? I guess this must be the modern equivalent of the Reliant Robin (or Kitten maybe), but without the "character".
Sep 24th Episode - movilogo
I was expecting it to be some Indian import


Probably the Hyundai Amica was? Getz are now being imported from India.

Sep 24th Episode - AlastairW
I don't know exactly which French contraption it was, but I see quite a few similar one round her made by Ligier, of all companies. They are sold locally by what was the Reliant dealer, because as said on 5th gear they can be driven on a bike licence. I believe they are classed as 'cyclecars' and are therefore exempt from crash testing in the same way as the G-Whizz.