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Many years ago, as a young(ish) motorcyclist, carrying papers always seemed to help. If plod had to fill in a producer he might as well fill in another (less benign) form as well. I'm guessing times have changed.
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A person, who may not even be a policeperson, checking your licence in a police station, on a producer, is a great deal less likely to be bothered about points on your licence than a man at the road side who has pulled you over IMO. But, in these days of duff gen on the computer, carrying your insurance might save you car from being crushed, if it is in the inaccuate database as 'uninsured'
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Sounds like you were asked for your "papers" fairly frequently, scotty! ;-)
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If stopped and you are not carrying your Driving Licence and asked by the ever so polite Plod to produce it and you don't coz u karnt, then technically you commit an offence (See Section 164 Road Traffic Act, 1988)
But within that Section is a clause that it shall be a defence if you within 7 days do produce it at a designated Police Station - which is why they give you the HO/RT/1 Producer and only then if you don't produce stick one you.
Don't forget the counterpart is included .
Having had to search through pockets/wallets of deceased persons killed in Traffic Accidents persons carrying their Licence have assisted in rapid identification and bad news to NoK.
Also bear in mind no Licence when stopped, Plod checks PNC/DVLA no Licence marker shown thorugh admin error, then that could be taken as 'reasonable grounds' for suspecting No Licence and power to impound vehicle .
Mines glued in my wallet.
dvd
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Locally, it is a 'must carry', on pain of a substantial fine.
Not a bad thing - IMHO.
Also works as instant ID for banking, proof of age, etc etc etc
However, not everybody thinks that way - and see it as another step towards Big Brother (Orwell, not Jade Goody).
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I will not be carrying an ID card of any kind this year, next year, or any year
As far as I can see photo driving licences are just attempt at going down the road of compulsory ID for all
And I really cannot see free born Englishmen bowing down to yet another dictat from the comisars of this centralist government
There are more than enough techniques for sorting out the criminals/terrorists most of which are feebly attempted which do not require intrusions on the decent folk
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As far as I can see photo driving licences are just attempt at going down the road of compulsory ID for all
I personally can't get at all worked up about something so trivial. If you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to fear.
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I haven't done anything wrong and I am not afraid. I am not going to jump thru the hoops for a bunch of control freaks who seem to want to rule our lives under laws laid down for and in other counties, among whom is one where they eat snails! You be afraid Monsieur L'escargot! Just a bit of banter for the weekend!
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At the risk of going too far off topic...
I have watched and read a lot about the increase in 'identity fraud' in Britain, as well as the rise in credit card and other financial crimes.
If I wish to buy something here, and have gone over the 'floor limit' on the card or cheque, they will ask if I have any ID.
Likewise with Mrs Ian, who is of the 'previously disadvantaged' South Africans, and not too many of them get to flash gold cards about!
Out comes the drivers license.
Problem solved.
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I personally can't get at all worked up about something so trivial. If you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to fear.
this chap hadn't done anything wrong: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/53390...m
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Officers have been known to retian the licence as the scene of the alledged offence. Not Good. And it is a form of ID particularly the Photo one. Is some cases it is best not to ID ones self at all. Personally I do not carry my licence in the UK or any other car documents. Regards Peter
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Driving licence and all other relevant documents have to be carried when using a vehicle in France. It's always the first thing the gendarmes ask for. Also pays to carry your ID card, which - personally - I find quite reassuring.
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It was certainly standard advice amongst my peers not to carry ones driving licence when I first starting driving ? the thinking was that handing it over on being stopped made it easier for the Officer to issue a NIP.
I never carried mine for years of driving company cars, but on opting out and buying my own it was pointed out to me that if I broke down away from home and needed a replacement car then I?d be stuck if I didn?t have my licence.
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I only carry the card part, cos then the officer is reassured I am me, cos of the photo, but doesn't get prejudiced because the, er, previous behaviour.
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Carrying it and showing it are two different decisions. You can keep your licence in your wallet in case you actually want to show it, as in BP's example. No police officer is likely to search you if you say you haven't got it. Best of both worlds, non?
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Most of the reasons given aboveare good reasons for not showing your licence. Also I'd advocate carrying it but not showing it.
Q "do you have your driving licence sir?"
A "I don't have it to hand at the moment"
No lies being told there if it's tucked away somewhere out of the way are there?
Another reason not to show it is that Officer Dibble can't copy your details from the licence and it thus increases the likelyhood that he will make some kind of mistake on the NIP and mess up any chance of taking it to court.
Don't make their lives any easier than you have to is the stance I would advocate.
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I don't have an ID card. I find that really really reassuring! BTW what ID card to you have MH? They aren't official issue yet are they?
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