Well, if you are doing bangernomics, I would simply lay in some new wiring to the starter motor and fuel injection stop solenoid and do without the immobiliser altogether.
This will enable you to start and stop the car normally but you won't have any immobilisation at all, which on a banger, isn't really a problem, is it?
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DL, I know you are the Rover expert so hopefully you may know the answer to my question. My Rover Metro, 95 M reg, has no working remote plips anymore and therefore the immobilser is never activated. (I just turn the key in the door to use the car). Now this has never caused any problems yet but I know that if the battery goes flat or gets disconnected then the immobilser will activate. On a similar principle to your answer for the Rover 218, could I get away with re-wiring the starter and fuel injection stop solenoid in order to cut out the immobilser circuit altogether or does my car work in a different way?
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Yes, Simon - the same procedure applies in your case aswell.
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Thks DL, advise appreciated. Hopefully a rookie like me can identify the solenoid and starter motor ;o)
I am wondering if the car alarm is still going to be a problem. I don't think they have a key fob any more, I think it might be lost.
Is the car alarm easily disconnected? If so how?
Many thanks in advance DL.
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Disconnecting the alarm/immobiliser will cause you more problems (IMO) than it will cure.
I would go the route previously mentioned and forget about the alarm, it isn't the greatest thing anyway.
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Thanks DL. I assume you mean bypass alarm by locking unlocking the drivers door.
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Not certain what DL`s last post was refering to. if you mean you have petrol/single point/multi point injection. it is controlled by ECU. this ECU if the same as 2/400 series has inbuilt alarm/immobiliser.It isnt possible to rewire.Would like DL to confirm though. And you didnt state what cc and model?
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diesel rover 218sd, turbo diesel, M reg.
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Can only repeat first post I made. I doubt you or anyone else would want to get involved in rewiring. would cost more than car is worth. assuming its possible. which I doubt. would like DL`s input on this.ie oppinion
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Had exactly the same problem with my L-reg 414 last week. The AA sorted it out by:
1. Open drivers door, open bonnet, wind down drivers window, close drivers door.
2. When the alarm stops, lift the bonnet and disconnect the negative lead from the battery.
3. Connect a power pack to the positive terminal and the engine block.
4. reach in the drivers window, switch on the ignition and leave for 3 minutes.
5. Switch off the ignition, disconnect power pack, re-connect battery.
Bingo ! car starts.
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>>The AA sorted it
First time I have heard of AA sorting it out..Good on them
Ps. thanks for the info
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hi, its is realy simple to get rid of the immobliser, {information on how has been deleted - I suggest you email Matthew, using the address below for details of how to disable the immobiliser - DD}
and problems i can send over via an email a pic on witch cables to cut and join together
have fun guys!!!!
my email address is, matthew@gismocity.co.uk
and my website is www.gismocity.co.uk (as you have might have worked out its all about gismo's)
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Amm,Not a good idea to publish this on any site,it could lead to vehicles being nicked.I would suggest as you have the answer to have said e`mail me for (how to do it)not common knowledge to most, only the few due to reasons I mentioned,rather hope it is deleted
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rather hope it is deleted
It has been. DD.
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Hi DD any chance you can send me the info on getting around the immobliser as i have broken one of the buttons off the remote. So the car is stuck on the drive and i am gettin ear ache from the Mrs. Thanks Alex
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Hi DD any chance you can send me the info ....
All the info is in "Alarm magic man's" post, which is just a few posts uphill of this one. You need to contact him (through the email address) mentioned in that post. DD
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sorry guys, didnt think befor i posted!!!, im so used to telling ppl, as i fit alarms and do it day in day out
hope i didnt upset any1
all the best
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good man,.............i saved it just in case for future reference,you never know the science museum might get one of those rovers in a case one day and need the start details.........:)
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My son has Rover 414, he lost fob at T in the park and has also lost code!! He changed the battery and was suprised to find the immobliser on!! He needs his car for work. Can you e-mail details on how to get rid of this?
Ta
Susan
susan_jarvie_2004@hotmail.com
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..i saved it just in case for future reference you never know the science museum might get one of those rovers in a case one day and need the start details.........:) I'll appreciate if you can send me the procedure. My wife's rover 414 has been parked for 8weeks now. the car battery was flat and we removed for recharge. Upon recharge, we found that the fob wouldn't work so we thougt the fob battery was faulty and we changed that too.
the fob has not worked till now although i later learnt from the web that there was a procedure to follow in changing the batteries. I have tried all the procedures but it seems it is too late in the day for that. The central lock is working fine, if i use the key in the driver's door. I have been informed it's the immobiliser and my mechanic informs me that there's no help he can render.
I'll really appreciate if I you can assist me in this regard. Matthew's website is tagged "inactive" while his email does not work too as it is based on the inactive website.
Kindly assist if you still have the procedure saved. My email address is idokostevens@gmail.com.
Thanx in advance.
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>>Kindly assist if you still have the procedure saved. My email address is idokostevens@gmail.com.
Procedure is for the petrol ecu,which isnt going to help you,but a company does reprogram the immobiliser to be shut off.
try
0208 315 8309
www.ecuclinic.com I dont know them personaly but hear they are good
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Procedure is for the petrol ecu which isnt going to help you but a company does reprogram the immobiliser to be shut off.
My wife's car has a petrol ecu. thanx for the number and website. I'll give them a try. although personally i would prefer if i can sort out the problem myself.
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Any chance you still have the info on how to dissable the immobiliser on the rovers as mine is stuck on the drive after i broke the remote & i dont fancy spending loads of cash to fix an old banger ! Any advice or tech info will be a great help.
My E-mail address is - alexonthespanners@hotmail.com
Thanks. Alex
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Alex, sorry to sound blunt, but what part of
"All the info is in "Alarm magic man's" post, which is just a few posts uphill of this one. You need to contact him (through the email address) mentioned in that post."
did you fail to understand?
DD
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yep been there done that and the e-mail address and the web page is INACTIVE as mentioned in other posts so i was appealing to anyone who had saved this info for future use. thanks Alex
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have they got one in yet old fruit?
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hi, its is realy simple to get rid of the immobliser, {information on how has been deleted - I suggest you email Matthew, using the address below for details of how to disable the immobiliser - DD} and problems i can send over via an email a pic on witch cables to cut and join together have fun guys!!!! my email address is, matthew@gismocity.co.uk and my website is www.gismocity.co.uk (as you have might have worked out its all about gismo's)
hi ppl, iv just setup a formroom for ppl wanting to know how to sort out the rover's, please go to www.gismocity.co.uk/rover/
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hey all i just want to say what a great help you have all been with my problem.
i have had the same problem with an L reg 218 SLD rover and have spent two days on it! finally, after finding the security code (and it not working) and also trying many things to bypass the immobiliser we took the door pannel off to see if there were any obvious problems.
all that had happened was the switch had come away, and either needed to be taped up (to stop it bieng used) or fix it back into place with some superglue. after doing this we managed to mobilise the car as normal and now do not have a problem.
so, i would suggest to everyone with a problem like this on this car to TAKE THE DOOR PANNEL OFF, see if there are any obvious problems (like a switch hanging off the lock mechanism) and to work from there. this also seems like a weak point in the car and therefore may be a design fault, as it looked as if the previous owner had this problem.
hope this helpes everyone, and saves you some money (we saved 80 quid!!)
feel free to email me with questions, PJ
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www.gismocity.co.uk/rover/
This link does not work?????
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>>This link does not work?????
it hasnt worked for months so assume it dont exist anymore
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it hasnt worked for months so assume it dont exist anymore
According to swhois.net/ the site was registered on 28-Sep-2005, and the renewal date was 28-Sep-2007. That's the reason why it doesn't work. The registrant hasn't renewed his website.
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please could u send me information on how to disable immobiliser as i rang rover and they said it will cost about 300 pounds to fix and the immob is useless anyway i wii be very greatfull for any info
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hi, i have just replaced the head gasket on my rover 620 and left the battary off too long and now the immobaliser has kicked in, i have no code or fob and would like the info on how to bypass / disable it please.
please can you e mail me details
mark260681@yahoo.co.uk
mant thanks
mark
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please can you e mail me details
It mentions above that you have to email Alarm magic man, not for him to email you. As he hasn't visited this site since Feb 2006, it's very unlikely that he will see your request anyway.
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=5358&m...e
DD.
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you asked to get in touch with details
rover620 sli
s reg
no fob or master key
honda engine
immobliser locked on
am wanting to disable it or reset.
many thanks mark
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Mark2006,
It's no good posting the info here. As I previously said, YOU have to email Alarm magic man. His email address and website are clearly mentioned in the link I posted last night.
DD.
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