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Various reliability issues with these, and generally unliked. Way overpriced. Save yourself a headache and spend on something FAR better such as a Honda Accord, Camry etc.
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Sorry, but I have to agree with the advice to think very carefully before buying an 800 Series.
Also represent a poor handling version of a barge...:-)
Now if it had been a 75....
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With reference to the point made above about the early 2.5 engines, it seems that the later ones are no better:
"Best to avoid an 800 2.5KV6 entirely." (Car-by-Car Breakdown)
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Omega.
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£1500 is a shocking amount to spend on a really carp car with nothing to commend it. I doubt it's worth more than £500, on a good day with 12 month MoT and in sensible condition.
What do you need from a car? What attracted you to the Rover?
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DON'T
Why?
It may be cheap to buy BUT:
Very unreliable. Accent the VERY.
VERY expensive to maintain. Cambelt change requires specialist tools. £500plus.
Engine is unreliable...
Body rots.
Electrics are carp.
And finally it's not a nice car to drive.
(and I have driven 3.. by decree as company car).
Rubbish car. rubbish experience.
A money pit.
madf
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I knew rovers were genrally bad....but this bad
I will tell him all your views.
But surely its got top luxury.
SO how is it worth then?
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SORRY ANOTHER UPDATE,
having spoken to FIL he has now told me its been converted to run on LPG by a professional intaller.
does this make the car more deisirable?
Surely with lpg it will be economical
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The nightmare continues! Is the firm that did the gas conversion still in business? This car is not highly thought with one fuel system, never mind two! I might be more economical but it will be a lot less desirable IMHO.
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They are not what you'd call a desirable car, whatever their fuel system. There are better cars as stated with similar levels of kit (and don't forget, if you need new parts for a Rover 800, such as interior trim etc, you will find it difficult to obtain as the deaqlers are no more!)
Toyota Camry, Nissan QX, Honda Accord can be had for similar money, and have decent levels of kit.
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FIL seems to have fallen in love with the motor.
I have told him all about it but he says it all rubbish talk about rovers being unreliable. He saying its cause rover have shut down.
Oh oh....seems like I got a problem on my hands.
What do i do...hes in love with the motorwiths its leather,cruise etc!
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Well, if he's hell bent on having it, at least tell him to offer less than its advertised for, and see if they accept (probably will as they must know its overpriced)! I wouldn't want it personally though, even for £500.
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A fool and his money are still very easily parted, it seems.
What does FiL actually need from a car? If he's old enough to be yr FiL he probably needs a safe, realible box that gets from A to B without guzzling too much gas.
The Japanese make such good cars - what about a top end Primera - think some came with leather? The aircon on a car like the Rover could break any day, and cost more than the car is worth to fix. Same is true of the electrics (and the driver's window not working is an MoT failure). If he know nothing about cars then he won't be able to fix it himelf -> £1500 down the pan......
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You could also remind him that this is a 10-year-old executive car with 100K on the clock, and that any such purchase is likely to involve big bills not far down the road - regardless of how reliable (or otherwise) he considers the manufacturer to be.
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How about:
tinyurl.com/e5mhr - 1997 NISSAN PRIMERA 2.0 16V SE 5dr Hatchback, Blue 52700 miles, R-reg. automatic,one previous owner,MOT to Feb,07, 6xCD Changer,sun-roof, heated leather seats,alloys,air-con. adjustable steering column, power steering, etc. £995
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very nice primer indeed.
Try telling him that.
I think that thr 800 coupe is a fairly nice looker (in an odd way) and hes in love with it. Coupled with cream leather seats,wood etc, he totally in love with it.
He got the £1500 cash ready to hand over...OMG
Well its his money and ive tried to change his opinion and he wont :)
So what should I look out for on the car now that hes definitely buying it unless i CAN SHOW HIM MAJOR PROBLEMS!
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Is yr FiL going through some kind of mid-life crisis? Is he trying to re-capture an earlier period in his life when cream leather, wood etc. was the epitome of Surbiton-like success?
Tell him to wake up, smell the coffee, and ask him if he can afoord to chuck away £1500?
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Get him to have an AA or other professional pre-sale inspection done on it. Almost anything going wrong with this car is going to cost a lot of money, if it is even fixable. Some spares could actually be unobtainable. The reasons for not buying it are overwhelming - if he is going to go ahead anyway you might as well let him get on with it and try not to say "I told you so" if there is a disaster! It wasn't just you warning him off - it was all of us!
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1995 Rover 827i Coupe finished in Gold.
All Electric with full Beige Leather Interior
Needs an exhaust and rear brakes for the MOT.
Excellent runner. Luxury driving for a bargain price.
This car is on e bay and has attracted 5 bids, of which the highest is £82 - enough said!!
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I repeat: At least advise FiL to offer less than £1500, maybe £1000? Nothing to lose, and only a potential nightmare to gain it seems!
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Agreed Armitage, and at least the 2.7 is a Honda unit!
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It would seem that FiL is not the only fan of the beast: this tinyurl.com/fc9zv went for £3,999 .....
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4k for a rover!!!!!!
1500 quid seems a bargain now!!
Is there a cult following for the coupe sterlings?
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For that money, id get a low mileage cosseted 827 coupe and avoid the 825 like the plague and I worked for Rover dealer and thats what any Rover mechanic would tell ya an all. Only buy Rovers powered by Honda!
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Infact, better still, should have found him a Honda Legend Coupe as he obviously doesnt enjoy driving, so its a good retirement wagon.
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If you FIL still isn't convinced I suggest that you check the price and availibilty of a few likely spares and consumables. Try wheel bearings, a windscreen,a headlight unit and an air conditioning pump and condenser. That should come to about £1000 and he could need them at the next MOT if he is unlucky.
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Cut and paste from another HJ thread re Rover. The 25 is a lot newer that the 800!
"Apparently there are no rover 25 central locking motors in the country - he has a list of ten people waiting to pick one up as soon as available. " And this is just one dealer - how many are wanted countrywide?
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I think some people are confusing the coupe with the 4 door fast back , a 2 door coupe in good condition is worth good money Honda engined ,full leather etc.
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yes apparently the 2 door coupe is quite rare.
not many around.
maybe getting classic status soon?
do these cars drive smooth?
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If petrol with 12 months ticket £500 max. although I wouldn't buy it an any price.
LPG conversions. WALK AWAY. Unless you are a specialist or employee a specialist to check it you have no idea if this was done right.
Plenty of luxobarges on Autotrader for £1,500 just do a search.
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Like PU said earlier up thread, if you want a big, old, cheap luxobarge get an Omega - at least you can get the spare parts for them. LPG conversion just sounds like a whole unecessary potential world of pain, unless FiL does intergalatic mileages....
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I think FIL should buy it ,cracking cars absolutely nothing will go wrong with,it the dealer backup is first class,lpg conversion as well absolutely cracking idea on that engine....
get it bought tell him and its too cheap at £1500
now wheres me medicine...........nurse ,nurse.........
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if you've told him about the cars problems and how way overpriced it is, then now is the time to run in the opposite direction and offer no more oppinions on the car as no doubt when it goes very wrong, and it will, none of it can be blamed on you.
i see a few of the coupes about and if everything works id pay 400-500 but at this age i wouldnt touch it with lpg conversion.
buy a qx or camry.. much much better cars
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For £1500 he can buy a Mercedes.. And he'll get spares backup as well.
Or an early XJ6.
That is if he wants prestige motring
Whatever a Rover 800 coupe is, prestige it ain't
madf
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Does FiL live in some sheltered backwater where time has stood still for a couple of decades? Perhaps in his neck of the woods the Rover 800 Coupe is seen as being a status symbol. Does he bear any resemblance to the Ray Say character, played by Michael Caine in Little Voice?
I really think we should be told. Watch out for white patent shoes, flared trousers rather to tight round the backside, bright satin shirts with wide collars, rather too much hairy chest displayed, and an excess of chunky gold bracelets, neckchains etc., plus a dodgy mullet.
There's a lad (in his 50s) round here who drives an early 80s 500 SEC in white who may be related.
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A 2 door coupe IS a head turner if its in good condition and fetch good prices and are increasingly hard to find.They were built as I remember buy Honda not Rover .You will certainly not lose money on one unlike the four door version.
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> A 2 door coupe IS a head turner
But not for the reasons the owner would wish.....
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The market rules and they fetch good money 1k upwards to 3k and they sell well,I sold one in Auto trader and wished I had a warehouse full.
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Which model did you sell...age,mileage etc?
How much did you get for it if you dont mind me asking!!
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The car is Rover Engined (only 2.7s were Honda) according to car by car breakdown.
In my opinion its a very good looker.
what do others think.
I know they are unreliable but im sure if you look after them and service them they not too bad.
Must be plenty in the scrappers as the 800 was in production for a long time
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I know they are unreliable (= Money to spend) but im sure if you look after them (costs time and money)and service them they are not too bad (Cost money and who wants "not too bad" in their lives.)
Must be plenty in the scrappers as the 800 was in production for a long time (Does FIL want to be trekking round scrappies and if the Rover is broken down how will he get there?
He wants it, nobody here has one good word to say about the car unless it is 2 door and Honda engined. You have had around 24 replies, and many from people who know facts as opposed to having opinions. Go ahead and get it bought and then tell us how it is going. First big problem before the end of August for my betting money! He wants the thing I think you agree with him!
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A better financial purchase than a 740 BMW in a previous post.You can sell Rover coupes but you would struggle with a big beamer.
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The 740 owner was trying to sell it, ISTR, not buy one. If he'd asked the same Q, we'd have given the same answer.
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I think they look luverrlly
But parts in scrappies for a coupe with unique body panels and different suspension/engine etc?
As much chance of finding anything compatible as of finding a competent truthful politician:-(
madf
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