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Any guesses from the picture what car she is in?
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Volvo. At a guess, a 240.
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Saab 900?
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doh - article says it's a Vauxhall Astra.
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Any guesses from the picture what car she is in?
Not from the picture but the text says she was driving a Vauxhall Astra.
It also says:
"Magistrates imposed six points on Maddock's licence and heard that she was already serving a 20-month driving ban, imposed last week."
Obviously she was well known to the Magistrates....
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There is no way that's a Vauxhall Astra in that picture.
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Must admit I was sceptical it was an Astra - but watch the video, and indeed it is.....
Jono
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You can watch the video?
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Yes you can! It's even in bold!
I really wouldn't have said it was an Astra from the picture - the windscreen looks really small and upright and those headrests are old Volvo ones if ever I saw them!
Oh well, a Vauxhall Astra was my second choice!
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I bet Richard Hammond would have known it was an Astra.
Chris M
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It seems a strange looking Astra.
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To be fair, I don't think the angle at which that still was taken helps.
That's my defence and I'm sticking to it!
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Why be ashamed of not recognising an Astra for heaven's sake? If it was a Metallurgique or 9-litre Renault shame would be understandable. But there's no disgrace in not being able to distinguish one winegum from another.
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What that lady needs is two artificial arms fixed to the steering wheel thus allowing her to put on her make up with attracting attention from Plod. A bit like Rod Hull had with Emu.
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You're too kind Lud.
>>What that lady needs is two artificial arms fixed to the steering wheel thus allowing her to put on her make up with attracting attention from Plod. A bit like Rod Hull had with Emu.<<
Speaking from experience Dave?
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"Speaking from experience Dave?"
Of driving while putting on make up? Or having my hand up a bird?
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I do think you are all missing the point here... firstly I'm not condoning her behaviour or the fact that she obvioulsy haves a bit of form BUT she wasn't speeding when she drove past the camera yet they took it upon themselves to snap her anyway isn't that a bit of usage drift? Who told them they could I was under the impression, wrong it seems, that photographic evidence was permissiable only in the case of speeding.
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They may not have been her hands. They may have belonged to someone in the back seat.
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She should have used that has her defence ,I can see an appeal coming along soon.
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"A car is a dangerous lump of metal in the wrong hands." (N Wales police spokesman).
I feel this is a definition of the automobile that many in the outside world (though not here for the most part) would subscribe to.
The camera may have caught this lady with both hands off the wheel, but not in the picture in the weblink: in that clip her left hand is not visible, and may therefore be on the wheel.
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I do think you are all missing the point here... firstly I'm not condoning her behaviour or the fact that she obvioulsy haves a bit of form BUT she wasn't speeding when she drove past the camera yet they took it upon themselves to snap her anyway isn't that a bit of usage drift? Who told them they could I was under the impression, wrong it seems, that photographic evidence was permissiable only in the case of speeding.
I was under the impression that the mobile cameras in the back of vans are video rather than "still" photographs with the speed reading recorded on the tape. The video tape can then be reviewed later and all offences (speeding, using a mobile while driving, tailgating etc) can be prosecuted. This would explain why there is a video of the offence available to view on the BBC website.
If photographic evidence was only permissable in cases of speeding then what are Red Light Cameras for?
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I like this:
"A letter from her solicitor asked that because she had been disqualified since the offence, no further ban be added."
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This says it all about speed cameras.
If it had been a Gatso, she'd have got away with it, having been below the speed limit.
Because there was a Plod on the ground with a camera, the offence was recorded and she was rightly done for it.
Doesn't that go a long way to justify the need for TRAFFIC POLICE and not dumb cameras?
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>>Doesn't that go a long way to justify the need for TRAFFIC POLICE and not dumb cameras?
IMO yes,and person was rightly done. why some mention the speeding aspect I fail to see,she was not in control of vehicle at any speed with hands off the wheel!!
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Steve
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Might have had prehensile knees. Have you never steered with your knees while rolling a joint on top of the binnacle in the outside lane of a motorway?
Nor have I, but I've heard of it being done.
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Dem a paparazzi in blue man to raaas!
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My ex father in law managed to roll up a ciggy quite well while driving a Transit on the m way. I did have to hold the steering wheel for a bit mind you...
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I can't believe how anyone could be so stupid as to take both hands off the wheel to do make-up while driving. Apparently has also been disqualified for drink-driving. The irony is that in the video the girl looks quite pretty so there was little need for the make up in the first place.
In the past I have:
1) been followed by car being driven a man shaving with an electric shaver while driving!!!
2) been overtaken by a car on the M25 with its driver somehow slumped across into the passenger seat holding up copies of 'Loot' magazine (hoping I'd open my window and buy one, presumably).
3) been a passenger in a commercial vehicle whose driver used to clap his hands above his head while moving if he saw what he considered to be an example of bad driving.
4) witnessed and the instance I've mentioned before of the biker who overtook in the face of an oncoming car, completely 'no hands', with his arms outstretched beside him even as he somehow steered the bike back to its own side of the road, presumably just by leaning.
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1) been followed by car being driven a man shaving with an electric shaver while driving!!!
My brother claims to have managed a wet shave while driving once - using foam with no water and a safety razor. Thankfully no potholes were encountered so he arrived at destination with the correct number of ears!
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One of the most terrifying journeys I have had was being in the backseat (so powerless to intervene if necessary) travelling up the M3 at speed while the driver filled his pipe and lit it, while driving with his knees..... argggh
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We overtook a Cavalier once (when they were actually rep's cars) and saw a bloke changing his trousers.
Yes, he was the driver.
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Big Deal. I joined the "foot high club" with a secretary at 90mph on the M4. And by that, I don?t mean I?m a dwarf neither.
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You drove doing a handstand?
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Regardless of the 'offense', she hardly deserves to have the video and pictures plastered all over websites and news programs.
Who released the video into the public domain then? The police or the scamera partnership. Good case for suing on the grounds that shes getting unwarranted attention for such a small matter.
I guess if she'd been one of the Securitas raiders caught on tape then her face would have been pixelated out.
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Regardless of the 'offense', she hardly deserves to have the video and pictures plastered all over websites and news programs.
Normally I'd agree with you, but some of the news reports describe her as a part-time model. If you go to the web site of a certain super soaraway tabloid publication, you'll find photos of her which I don't suppose she provided free-of-charge. She's also quoted as confessing to other acts of motoring stupidity.
Minor celebrities have emerged from less than this.
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I recall long ago changing driver while moving. The new driver reaches across to put his foot on the accelerator, crouching forward close to the windscreen. The ex driver then shuffles across out of the way. It was easier with a bench seat and column gear change. But someone was always holding the wheel, for safety reasons.
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About half an hour ago a driver of a 30 ton artic started to wander across the white line towards me! He was clearly trying to read from a sheaf of A4 papers. This road is 30 mph and restrictred access for HGV's so he may have been looking for a local delivery drop off.
In busy Leeds commuter traffic plus kids going to their school bus stops how irresponsible is that?
Unfortunatley i have seen numerous drivers over the years reading, shaving, opening thermos flasks. The make up girl is not unusual!
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Probably not as dangerous as smoking in vehicles
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Complete and utter nonsense.
You can fish out, light and smoke a fag without ever taking both hands off the wheel. It is no more dangerous than fiddling with a stereo or a car's heater controls.
Sorry to sound a little spikey, but us smokers are all feeling a little persecuted right now.
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Complete and utter nonsense. You can fish out, light and smoke a fag without ever taking both hands off the wheel. It is no more dangerous than fiddling with a stereo or a car's heater controls. Sorry to sound a little spikey, but us smokers are all feeling a little persecuted right now.
You can drop a CD, Tape, lipstick, packet of Polos in your lap without too much worry, though a lit ciggy is likely to take your attention off the task in hand.
Smoking while driving should be banned forthwith, is is nothing short of ludicrous that is is against the law to swig some water or bite a Tracker bar while driving though totally legal to generate a flame or a red hot element and use it to light a fag.
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PS: I have nothing against smoking in pubs, better than at home in front of the kids for instance.
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I agree that it is ludicrous for it to be against the law to sip water or eat a Mars bar at the wheel.
All the stuff about banning smoking, whether it is at the wheel, or in pubs, or the workplace is supposed to be motivated by well meaning concerns for the health/safety of third parties, but I reckon it is more to do with the modern puritanical urge to ban everything that "right thinking" people do no approve of.
Never mind, the state will soon legislate away every single pleasurable pastime so we will not have to make any decisions for ourselves in future.
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You mean once we've gone underground and become outlaws all decisions will be inevitable, Lawman?
Agree with what you say abt everything else. I don't see why people shouldn't object to the smell of cigarette smoke - hated it myself as a child, in the years when most adults smoked all the time - but I wonder what makes them think it's all right to adopt this tedious moralistic tone. Probably the mere fact that others do.
'Passive smoking' is a load of grossly exaggerated carp. And if you don't like smoke, you have three choices: bear it, leave or persuade the smoker to stop. If the smoker tells you to get stuffed you have only yourself to blame, because you are the aggressor.
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Back to motoring please.
DD.
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