Bet they come back with ' the vehicle was serviced, as a PDI check & the oil wasn't even changed, as it hadn't covered a sufficient mileage, to require it'.
Which would make sense, sort of.
& for the few £$£$ it costs & inkeeping with Broomers tradition, as well as being compulsory , to allow us to post here, the oil & filter will be changed, at no more than 5000 mile intervals anyway, with synthetic, of course....WON'T IT!!!
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Thats my issue - I intend to keep the car until the VW warranty runs out, during which we will have done 50 - 60K in it. Longevity of the car is not really a concern - keeping the cost of ownership down was key.
They have definatly serviced the car as the book has a PDI stamp in a few weeks ago, and then the first service page has been completed about 2 days before I picked it up
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Completely different car (Citroen C3), but;
First service was a "lights and levels check" with no oil change.
Next service wasn't due until 20,000 miles. I had the oil changed at 10,000 anyway, but that doesn't apparently warrant a stamp in the service book, because it's "only an oil change"
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I think this sounds like an idiosyncrasy of that particular garage. I am unaware of this changing from an Audi perspective. I think this long-life servicing works well in my particular case, but if you dont do much mileage in a year I guess you can save money on the 'standard' service regime.
It does seem odd that the dealer diod a 'service' on the car with such low mileage, I would personally be suspicious of this.
There has been a lot of discussion on this board over time of how bad it is to leave oil in a car for 20,000 miles. I think as long as these miles are done in a relatively short time ie a year or less, and the correct high-grade oil is used there should be no worries at all.
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There has been a lot of discussion on this board over time of how bad it is to leave oil in a car for 20,000 miles
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all based on "personal opinions". not any actual engineering tests or studies or research.
any evidence that the "up to" 20k plus miles are perfectly feasible using the right oil is conveniently iignored by the steam-age motorists.
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all based on "personal opinions". not any actual engineering tests or studies or research. any evidence that the "up to" 20k plus miles are perfectly feasible using the right oil is conveniently iignored by the steam-age motorists.
I dont think you are right here, in my case it is personal opinion, but we have had some input in the past from an expert in the field of lubricating oils etc.
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.... some input in the past from an expert in the field of lubricating oils .....
can you provide: name, qualifications of "expert", exact claims made, based on which study/research as accepted in which journal?
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>>any evidence that the "up to" 20k plus miles are perfectly feasible using the right oil is conveniently iignored by the steam-age motorists.>>
I would agree, providing that such a distance didn't involve mainly short hops when the engine never really gets up to the proper temperature.
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I would agree, providing that such a distance didn't involve ...
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the regime is fully explained at
www.vw.co.uk/assets/Longlife_servicing.pdf
and current reccomendations for different models are given at
www.vw.co.uk/services/servicing/service_intervals
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"steam-age motorists"
That'll be HJ, then...
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"They have definitely serviced the car as the book has a PDI stamp in a few weeks ago".
I'm a cynic. They have definitely stamped the book.
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It is HIGHLY unlikely that VW have ended long life servicing. Its one of the major reasons that VW are popular with lease fleets.
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Reducing cambelt change intervals to 40k is not going to help that popularity.
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Quote Ishok Leyland : "Long Life" is an oxymoron, as the life won't be long if you use the Long Life schedules IMHO. "
Previous Golf : 4 years and 192,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems (none that are relevant to servicing anyway - just steering rack, alternator, etc etc)
Wifes previous Beetle : 5 years & 102,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems
Colleagues Passat : 3 years & 150,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems relating to servicing
Colleague #2 Passat : 3 years & 120,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems relating to servicing
Me thinks you're talking out of the top of yer head mate!
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Interestingly though, the above cars varied immensely in how far each car travelled between servicing, depending on how it was driven. EG up to 20,000+ miles in the motorway hacks, compared to 11,000 miles in the town runabouts!
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Quote Ishok Leyland : "Long Life" is an oxymoron, as the life won't be long if you use the Long Life schedules IMHO. " Previous Golf : 4 years and 192,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems (none that are relevant to servicing anyway - just steering rack, alternator, etc etc) Wifes previous Beetle : 5 years & 102,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems Colleagues Passat : 3 years & 150,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems relating to servicing Colleague #2 Passat : 3 years & 120,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems relating to servicing Me thinks you're talking out of the top of yer head mate!
Agree with the above, the long life service regime is more intelligent than you would think. If you do a period of local driving the service inteval is shortened by the ECU in accordance with this.
I find that if I do say 2 weeks of local driving intemixed with very short journeys on the weekends, the service indicator on my Audi goes down by say 500 miles when I've maybe only done 300-350 miles. However if I do say 600 miles of almost entirely motorway work in less than a week, I may only lose 400 miles for 600 miles driven. The car also has an oil quality sensor that can detect poor oil if all else fails.
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Agree with the above, the long life service regime is more intelligent than you would think.
My own car is an Audi, but compared to my partners 20K a year I do only about 7K so the long life servicing allows me to go 18 - 20 months between services. Anything that avoids me having to go to the dealer more often than I need to is good
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Anything that avoids me having to go to thedealer more often than I need to is good
Agree with this - I'd really rather the car was 'sealed for life' so the dealer didn't have to touch it at all.
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Colleagues Passat : 3 years & 150,000 miles all on long-life servicing - no problems relating to servicing
Hope he wasn't paying for the fuel.
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I mentioned the cambelt issue to our fleet manager yesterday and he had heard nothing of it but commented that neither the 1.4 or 1.6 were popular engines for fleet vehicles and that we had no such vehicles in our fleet. Agreeing with TVM I'd be very surprised if VAG abandoned long life servicing as fleet love the concept.
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Thats my issue - I intend to keep the car until the VW warranty runs out, during which we will have done 50 - 60K in it. Longevity of the car is not really a concern - keeping the cost of ownership down was key.
And STILL, people like cars with 'Full Main Dealer Service History' !!
They have definatly serviced the car as the book has a PDI stamp in a few weeks ago, and then the first service page has been completed about 2 days before I picked it up
Well, they've definitely stamped the book, anyway! I'd be interested in seeing the JOB CARD for this alleged 'service' - are you sure the SALES department didn't stamp the book? Not unknown...! ;-)
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>> They have definatly serviced the car as the book has a >> PDI stamp in a few weeks ago, and then the first >> service page has been completed about 2 days before I picked >> it up >> Well, they've definitely stamped the book, anyway! I'd be interested in seeing the JOB CARD for this alleged 'service' - are you sure the SALES department didn't stamp the book? Not unknown...! ;-)
I think the service book quotes the job card number, but the odd thing is that when I called the sales person she was surprised that it had been serviced as she had not requested it, and had no idea why they would have serviced a car which had only covered 1800 miles. I am begining to suspect that there is more to this than meets the eye, as the message also said that if this was a problem then call back and we can "discuss"
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"Long Life" is an oxymoron, as the life won't be long if you use the Long Life schedules IMHO.
To satisfy the more 'traditional' motorists, perhaps you should arrange for it to have a decoke every 5K or so. My dad used to have that done and he kept a spare starting handle in the boot.
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