| Hi, 
 This is my first post on this forum, so firstly, hello!
 
 Now getting to the point...
 
 I have circa £12k to spend on a new (to me) car, and I require it to fulfill the following:
 
 - seat 5 adults (all with 3 point belts) and have a good sized boot for their luggage
 - ~50 mpg (so a turbo diesel is a must)
 - accept a towbar
 - accept a roof rack
 - climate control
 - cruise control
 - 03 reg or newer
 - reasonably brisk performance (0-62  100mph if required)
 - have reasonably taut and well weighted handling to provide an element of entertainment (no mpvs or van derived cars).
 - a well supported service/parts network
 - image isn't too much of a concern - rep-mobiles not a problem
 - RWD would be preferable (handling), but I accept this is most probably out of the question.
 
 So what would you suggest?? All suggestions are very welcome!
 
 Cheers,
 
 ARUU
 
 
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                    | You can get a practically new top of the range Vauxhall Omega with about 6,000 miles on the clock for this price, it would meet all of the criteria above, apart from the 0-62mph would be a bit slower, about 12 sec on the auto I think. | 
                    
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                    | Your requirements scream Mondeo TDCi 130 to me. 
 There are very few big diesels that do 0-60 in 10 seconds, and there are fewer that do 0-60 in 10 seconds and return 50MPG, I'm getting near that in my Mondeo on mixed use.
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                    | Quinny100 
 The TDCI is currently sat at the top of my list as it seems to be a pretty effective package.
 
 I was hoping to come across a more original choice, but so far to no avail.
 
 
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                    | Vectra 1.9CDTi.
 150bhp @ 4000rpm. 315Nm torque @ 2000rpm.
 Max speed 135mph. 0-60 in 8.8 secs.
 Urban driving, 37.2mpg. Extra Urban driving, 57.7mpg, Combined Figure 47.9mpg.
 
 All come with cruise and air con as standard.
 
 
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                    | Can't get one of those for £12k though surely DD?
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                    | Can't get one of those for £12k though surely DD? 
 Not sure how long the 1.9CDTi has been available, but in the first 6 to 10 months, like with most new cars, the price plummets quite dramatically. Probably pick one up at auction with a few miles under it's belt, and still have the remainder of it's 3 yr warranty to cover any possible problems.
 
 
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                    | Cheers for the reply. 
 I've only seen these for sale at dealers - non of the importers appear to have them, and on the basis of the list price, I'm guessing they won't be £12k? The (straight line) performance stats are pretty impressive I have to admit
 
 I've heard massively mixed reviews of the new vectra's handling. However the general concensus appears to be that it's more refined on a motorway than a Mondeo, but for the keen driver that has no choice but to own a compromised family hatchback, the mondeo offers greater reward.
 
 
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                    | Hi ARUU, 
 Welcome to the BR.
 
 Motorpoint are offering 04 Vauxhall Signum 2.0 DTi Elegance for £11699.
 
 This is clearly a lot of car for the money, but the consensus seems to be that the Signum may become an 'orphan', and therefore a poor investment unless you intend to keep it.
 
 
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                    | When I hired a Mondeo a few weeks ago, it was whatever the opposite of Germanic is. |  
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                    | Obviously there is no point suggesting anything French or Italian, but how about a Nissan Primera 2.2 dCI?  I understand they can be had for low prices from new and there must be a quite a few low mileage used examples about. |  
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                    | When I hired a Mondeo a few weeks ago, it was whatever the opposite of Germanic is. 
 Italian?
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                    | Rover 75 CDTi.  The 50mpg is possible.  Qualifies for everything else, there's a few 2-yo pre-facelifts around for £12K. |  
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