I am about to buy a passat estate 110 BHP TDi sport.
90 k miles on a 99 T plate, with MD FSH etc. Forecourt price £6500 I hope he'll take 6k
How long will this car have before it gets tired and what may go wrong and how expensive will it be?
Should I go for something with less miles but lower build quality. I found the Octavias were a similar price and mileage.
I need an economical diesel estate motorway muncher.
Many thanks
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Seems a lot of money to pay for a car thats coming up to 5 years old - people seem to pay massive amounts for anything with a VW badge on. I'm looking at Mondeos at the moment and have found the equivilent Passat costs twice as much. Can't be that much better..
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I returned my 2000 'x' reg Passat TDi Sport to the lease company after 90,000 miles of enjoyable motoring. As the miles clocked up , the Passat got better and better - better performance, better MPG (average 56mpg). As this was a company car it was serviced by a VW main dealer and this was my only gripe. Customer Service was dire even after using 4 different VW dealers.
I've now got a Toyota Avensis D4D T3-x hatchback. Not bad, but not as good as the Passat. The Toyota made sense from a financial perspective, but it is starting to grow on me in the 2 months I've had it....
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The 110TDI engine is reckoned by many to be the definitive version. The usual caveats apply: FSH is vital, check that belt changes have been carried out, (have it done yourself for peace of mind at this mileage).
Be aware that the Passat/Octavia is powered by the same engine, but that the Passat has a larger interior but a smaller boot.(a relative difference as they are both pretty big)
Go to either Skoda or Seat for main dealer servicing, cheaper and, in my experience, better quality.
I took my TDI to 125K miles and it was the trim that started to show wear and tear. The engine was as good as day one. Good luck!
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OLL,
I've been running the saloon version since June, taking it up from 64k to 75k. The biggest outlay so far has been for new shocks which I was quoted anything from £275 to £500 for all four. The Estate version might well be more so I would check whether these have been done before negotiating a price. I normally get around 55mpg on the motorways and 52 mpg on the back roads although have clocked 78mpg on the M4 on one very long afternoon.
The clutch is a hydraulic system which is a pain when it goes wrong - c£80 for a slave cylinder.
Depending on where you are in the country £6-6.5k doesn't seem too bad a price,
Tim
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Dont pay more than 6k. Plenty of examples on ebay/autotrader. Got my 110 18 months and done 40k in it. Solid performer, quick as most cars, huge boot, I get the oil changed every 8k but dont bother with any other servicing apart from cam belts at 60k intervals. I have saved a shedload of money on fuel. Great car. Very safe and capable. You do hear horror stories now and again tho. Avoid stealerships and don't bother with warranties.
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I think the price seems reasonable enough - near the start of this year I paid £7k for my Passat Sport TDi, with the same plate & mileage. Have the front bushes replaced FOC, as they'll be needing it soon enough anyway - I had this done within the asking price as well as a new MOT and a full service. Also, if you drive on B-roads a lot then go for a long test drive over rough roads - you may want to have the dealer replace the shocks with something stiffer. I live in the countryside where there are lots of poorly surfaced B-roads, and find there's just a bit too much bodyroll and wallowing. Although this improved when I had the shocks replaced FOC within a couple of weeks after buying, it still isn't just right for me - I like to press on! Rather than pushing for a discount, see if the dealer will fit a set of Bilsteins within the asking price. If you don't ask, you don't get! Overall, I find the car supremely comfortable over long journeys and the 110 bhp engine marginally underpowered - it'll be chipped to 130 as soon as the used warranty expires. That said, it'll cruise for hours at 85-90 mph without blinking (where legal, of course!)
To look at an alternative, consider a Rover 75 - handles better, but you have to go for Club SE trim or above to equate to the kit in the Passat. I was looking at those, but the ones available for the price were very basic spec at the time in comparison to a Passat SE or Sport that was a year or so older. The 75 has a chain cam engine though and for £7500-£8000 you should now be able to get a 2000 Club SE with similar (or fewer) miles. According to the CBCB, Longbridge built cars have even better handling (2001 on?).
andymc
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A couple of guys who work for me have saloon versions of similar vintage and mileage.
Things that went wrong (two cars):
a CV joint
Bottom suspension arm (both cars)
Failed drivers door lock mechanism (expensive!)
Air-con condensor fan bearing sqealing
ABS light come on (still not fixed)
Some problems with alarm/central locking
One guy is trying to sell his, he is not happy with the reliability. They are not cheap to fix at a dealer once out of warranty.
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Take a 406 110 HDi for a test drive before you make up your mind.
Even at main dealers you'd get a newer car & lower mileage for £6K
VB
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see my post at
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=15197&...e
for my experience with a 110TDi Sport (now at 142k miles - still an excellent car).
Great cars if you get a good one and can get a good garage (maunufacturer or independant) to look after it (applies to all makes...!)
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For the same money you can get a new Octavia.......
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For the same money you can get a new Octavia.......
Cheapest list price for a new Octavia is £10120 and that won't be a diesel!
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