would you believe it? - barney100

I scraped the side of my pride and joy, not badly but enough to be annoying. Took it for a repair at my local indie body shop and a few days later went to pick it up. Looked great and it was being valeted as I arrived. Chatting to the owner in the meantime we watched in amazement as a large BMW backed straight into my car denting the bonnet! Just left it there when the BMW owner sheepishly said fix it and send me the bill................car now back and looking good.

would you believe it? - Avant

Bad luck - but glad that there seems to have been a happy ending!

would you believe it? - gordonbennet

It's become a standing joke with us, every time we buy a new to us car, within a week mr/mrs anonymous will either have opened a door onto it as hard as they can or driven into it in the supermarket car park, we no longer buy anything expensive so the damage stays there and just gets added to, any body repair money gets spent on good maintenance and rustproofing.

However a broader point is that the standard of driving is getting worse week by week, too many car drivers choose vehicles too big for them to cope with, ever more have no idea whatsoever how to park the things without electronics, unable to stay in their lanes in heavy traffic, incapable of overtaking on a two way road etc....this dumbing down is across the whole spectrum of road users though, not just car drivers.

would you believe it? - galileo

It's become a standing joke with us, every time we buy a new to us car, within a week mr/mrs anonymous will either have opened a door onto it as hard as they can or driven into it in the supermarket car park, we no longer buy anything expensive so the damage stays there and just gets added to, any body repair money gets spent on good maintenance and rustproofing.

However a broader point is that the standard of driving is getting worse week by week, too many car drivers choose vehicles too big for them to cope with, ever more have no idea whatsoever how to park the things without electronics, unable to stay in their lanes in heavy traffic, incapable of overtaking on a two way road etc....this dumbing down is across the whole spectrum of road users though, not just car drivers.

You're not kidding, this morning in a multistory carpark which has fairly generous spaces, I saw a woman struggling for a good minute to get a Hyundai i10 into a space. And it was the original small one, not the Yaris-sized current model.

would you believe it? - Wolfan

It's become a standing joke with us, every time we buy a new to us car, within a week mr/mrs anonymous will either have opened a door onto it as hard as they can or driven into it in the supermarket car park, we no longer buy anything expensive so the damage stays there and just gets added to, any body repair money gets spent on good maintenance and rustproofing.

However a broader point is that the standard of driving is getting worse week by week, too many car drivers choose vehicles too big for them to cope with, ever more have no idea whatsoever how to park the things without electronics, unable to stay in their lanes in heavy traffic, incapable of overtaking on a two way road etc....this dumbing down is across the whole spectrum of road users though, not just car drivers.

You're not kidding, this morning in a multistory carpark which has fairly generous spaces, I saw a woman struggling for a good minute to get a Hyundai i10 into a space. And it was the original small one, not the Yaris-sizred current model.

I always park my car in a bay that is as far away from other vehicles as I can and if possible at the end of a row to limit any risk of damage but on most occasions when I return somebody has parked next to mine, why? I've been all over my cars for magnets and can't find any, very strange. To go slightly off topic, why do people in supermarket car parks reverse into spaces and then risk damaging cars with their trolley as they struggle to execute the transfer of their purchases from trolley to vehicle. Before I hear that it's safer to drive out rather than reverse if drivers can't reverse safely then they shouldn't be on the road.

would you believe it? - ED731PDH

It's not just you. I can park in a totally empty car park row, walk away, and then come back and someone has parked tightly next to mine. All those other empty spaces but no, it has to be the one next to mine. Owner must think their car gets lonely or something and needs company.

I once asked such an owner once why it was important to park next to my car in an empty car park. I didn't get an answer, just a lot of eye blinking and cogs turning between the ears.

would you believe it? - ED731PDH

I'm not saying that the majority of older drivers are a liability, far from it, but there appears to be the odd percent of the "silly old sod" mentality.

My local Wyvales gardening centre is a case in point. You can often spot the 80+ driver by the way they park in a particular bay (diagonal in some cases or just plain p***ed), whilst being literally inches from the car in the next bay. Then you have the entertainment of watching said owner, often with nagging wife interjecting guidance, trying to reverse out whilst coming cringingly within inches of surrounding cars. These people you go around the car park again, just to park away from because you know that putting yourself in harms way is not an option. You know the type, seen lots of accidents in the rear view mirror, never been in one.

But the worst? The woman driver behind the wheel of a monster Chelsea tractor who just cannot handle the beast, nose barely above the top of the steering wheel. I once watched a woman in a Q7, a veritable beast of a car, doing a 97 thousand point turn in a railway car park whilst being totally oblivious to the cars around her. I wondered who's insurance she was driving on, as her broker would have had some sleepless nights based on the quality of the driving being presented.

would you believe it? - gordonbennet

The silly old sods were brought up on cars that needed to be controlled (driven properly), but were basically compact in design, had excellent visibility all round, had excellent turning circles due to RWD or narrow wheels/tyres on FWD so even those had an acceptable lock.

Now those same people go out and buy an auto, but unfortunately not being mechanically modern minded end up being talked into some dreadful lump of fit for nothing automated manual or some equally useless thing with two clutches and a lifespan of three weeks after warranty expires, these things are utterly useless for close manoevering control and always will be.

The car will have A B C pillars anything up to 4 times the width of their old car, the A pillar as well as being thicker will be raked back more for streamlining innit so effectively can be up to 6 times as thick for vision at any given level, higher waistlines with lower roofs and narrower windows result further cutting vision, then the windows at the back must be darkened for fashion cutting vision a bit more, and the rear window should resemble a port hole having lots of sexy looking black bordering and kicked up at both sides just in case the poor geezer trying to park might have been able to see out past the row of rear headrests.

It'll be front wheel drive, with a turning circle the same as a 1970's 40 ft Pantechnicon, it'll be sat on huge wheels with elastic band tyres painted on so our old mate's terrified of getting anywhere near a kerb or a ruined alloy beckons.

Last but not least the car will have no more room inside than his old 70's Escort but will be half again longer and wider, with really thick curved doors so you need twice the space beside you to get out as you did from that old Escort, not forgetting those fashion accessory door mirrors tiny useless things set into huge sporty looking plastic casings twice as bulky as they need to be.

Our old mate does well to drive the modern heap at all.

would you believe it? - FoxyJukebox

I am seriously thinking of hand painting a nice thick coat of rubberised underseal (remember that 1970's stuff?) all around the base of my car and halfway up the door frames and wheel arches that will be the first point of contact for car park scratches, light reversing crumps, supermarket trolley bumps and as a mini guard for those special kind of drivers near me who find reversing impossible .

If scratched or lightly bumped, my plan would be to lightly rub the marks down and just re-paint over . To hell with what it does to the value of my 8 year old car .

would you believe it? - craig-pd130

I am seriously thinking of hand painting a nice thick coat of rubberised underseal (remember that 1970's stuff?) all around the base of my car and halfway up the door frames and wheel arches that will be the first point of contact for car park scratches, light reversing crumps, supermarket trolley bumps and as a mini guard for those special kind of drivers near me who find reversing impossible .

If scratched or lightly bumped, my plan would be to lightly rub the marks down and just re-paint over . To hell with what it does to the value of my 8 year old car .

For this reason, I quite like Citroen's idea with the Cactus of having rubber add-ons on the doors, etc. Looks awful but must save a fair few dings and scrapes.

would you believe it? - slkfanboy

I am seriously thinking of hand painting a nice thick coat of rubberised underseal (remember that 1970's stuff?) all around the base of my car and halfway up the door frames and wheel arches that will be the first point of contact for car park scratches, light reversing crumps, supermarket trolley bumps and as a mini guard for those special kind of drivers near me who find reversing impossible .

If scratched or lightly bumped, my plan would be to lightly rub the marks down and just re-paint over . To hell with what it does to the value of my 8 year old car .

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

would you believe it? - bathtub tom

When I had my Kia Pride (yes I really had one), I'd take great delight in parking my nearside up close against the offside of those folks who'd take more than their fair share of parking space.

Strangely, it was never dented.

would you believe it? - 72 dudes

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

would you believe it? - concrete

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

would you believe it? - hillman

Deviating slightly from the original post. Many years ago one of my work-mates was driving his Ford Anglia when the brakes failed. He slowly drove it several miles using the handbrake and parked it on the forecourt of his local Ford dealer and posted the keys through the office letter box. It helped that it was Sunday evening and the roads were quiet. Early next morning he telephoned the manager, told him the sad story and asked him to repair the brakes. The manager told the foreman who nicely asked one of the lads to bring the car round to the workshop. BUT BUT, chinese whispers prevailed and the message became garbled. My work-mate received a call at work that the car had suffered damage to the front end that would take a couple of weeks to fix. The car had been driven into the workshop and had collided with the end wall. BRs will know why.

Another story about that dealer. Two of the lads were carrying a big engine, one at the front and one at the back. Engines were covered with oil then and the lad at the back lost his grip as his hands slipped. The engine fell on his foot. The lad at the front fell backwards and lacerated his rear end on the spark plugs as he fell back. New BRs won't understand that but the engine was side valve. Both ended up having hospital treatment. In following months the lads would politely ask after the other's injury.

would you believe it? - focussed

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

The man who invented predictive texting died last week.

His funfair is next monkey.

would you believe it? - concrete

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

The man who invented predictive texting died last week.

His funfair is next monkey.

Nice one Focused. Made me laugh out loud. Concrete

would you believe it? - Big John

"I am seriously thinking of hand painting a nice thick coat of rubberised underseal (remember that 1970's stuff?) "

Hmm,

Think I did that a few years ago on a vauxhall Viva - (well ok just up to the top of the sill line) - not for protection but to hold the well coordinated set of rust spots together!

Edited by Big John on 10/05/2016 at 00:01

would you believe it? - hillman

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

The man who invented predictive texting died last week.

His funfair is next monkey.

Have you considered that SLKfanboy might just be dyslexic ? If he is then I applaud his contributing to the website.

would you believe it? - alan1302

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

The man who invented predictive texting died last week.

His funfair is next monkey.

Have you considered that SLKfanboy might just be dyslexic ? If he is then I applaud his contributing to the website.

Or he may just have wrote quickly and not checked what he put...then someone put a humerous reply.

would you believe it? - Avant
Some replies come from the heart, some from the head. A humerous reply comes from the elbow.
would you believe it? - alan1302
Some replies come from the heart, some from the head. A humerous reply comes from the elbow.

Thought someone may notice my deliberate mistake!

would you believe it? - concrete

These days there a a number of not paint need for minor dinks.

SLKfanboy, I can usully decipher your setneces witch have bin subjectified to preductive text, but I have no clue with this one :-)

Are you pispronunciating your worms again!!! Tut Tut. Cheers Concrete

The man who invented predictive texting died last week.

His funfair is next monkey.

Have you considered that SLKfanboy might just be dyslexic ? If he is then I applaud his contributing to the website.

Hello Hillman, I am the last person who would deliberately make a joke about disability. I actually have no idea if any member of the forum is dyslexic or suffering any other social challenge. Some of us in the recent past have posted on Avants' thread on grammar and language, and the concensus is that nobody is rebuked for their use or misuse of our rich and colourful language. But that does not exclude the odd tongue in cheek bit of ribbing, especially when it is meant as harmless fun.' Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!'; springs to mind. My youngest son is dyslexic and we fought the effects of the condition during his adolescence with the help of the Dyslexia Institute and a private therapist. He went on to gain a B.A 2:1 degree and is now a very successful legal executive. It may surprise you to learn that most dyslexics have an I.Q. well above the average. So believe me when I say that I am the last person to be scolded in this regard. However if any of my remarks have caused offence then I apologise unreservedly.

Cheers Concrete

would you believe it? - hillman

No surprise ! I once worked for a chief engineer who was dyslexic and far more intelligent than I am. I was, though, surprised that with him it affected his motor skills to the extent that he couldn't swim.

would you believe it? - bathtub tom

No surprise ! I once worked for a chief engineer who was dyslexic and far more intelligent than I am. I was, though, surprised that with him it affected his motor skills to the extent that he couldn't swim.

That sounds like dyspraxia. I understand it often goes hand in hand with dyslexia.

would you believe it? - alan1302

Posted in wrong place - edited

Edited by alan1302 on 12/05/2016 at 14:02

would you believe it? - Avant

"It may surprise you to learn that most dyslexics have an I.Q. well above the average."

That's indeed true. Sadly some recruiters don't realise this and miss some good candidates.

In the last 12 years of my career I recruited trainees for a firm of chartered accountants. Understandably, some dyslexics didn't mention their condition on their application form (some did, and all credit to them). On several occasions I noticed candidates writing laboriously in the written tests we gave them: dyslexics are given 25% extra time in professional exams, and they duly qualified and made excellent accountants.

(A bit off-topic from prangs but a point worth making!)

would you believe it? - concrete

My experience too Avant, but only after becoming aware due to my sons' condition. I really must praise the efforts of the expert professionals in this field. The institute recommended a therapist and she was excellent. My sons' work and skills improved beyond all expectations as he responded to the therapy. He was also given extra time for written exams but in terms of sheer mental ability and speed of though he was streets ahead of his contempories. All his old university mates want him on their quiz team too. A point definitely worth making. Incidentally, the really sad fact is that we had to pay for the therapy, we were fortunate enough to be able to do this, which was worth ten times more than we actually paid, but it is not available through the usual channels. Local education authorities do not recognise dyslexia as a condition. They classify it as learning difficulty, which means that under section 5 of the Education Act they cannot be compelled to offer correct methods of teaching to sufferers of the condition, because they do not recognise it. Sounds familiar eh? Local authority copping out as usual because they say they are underfunded. Plenty of money for the Mayors Jaguar though. Come the revolution!!!! Cheers Concrete

would you believe it? - hillman

Now that we have deviated thoroughly from the original post I would like to add Irlen Syndrome to the discussion. That affects people of average or above average intelligence It affects the way way the brain processes black print on a white background. If they have it badly it prevents them reading. One chap I know was laid off when a company changed its way of employing staff to get rid of the pension scheme and temporarily became a taxi driver. He knew the way implicitly but couldn't easily read street names.

One of my work-mates just could not spell and found writing reports a chore. The boss eventually asked him to check anything he had written against a dictionary. He was very disconsolate when he said to me, "How can I look things up in a dictionary when I don't how they are spelled".

His wife was a nurse and when he serviced a car for his wife's friend he found the front numberplate suspended by two nappy pins. When he showed his wife she remarked that her friend was a midwife and would use what was available to her.