I was wondering whether one of the toyota devotees/worshippers would attempt to hijack the thread.

To the OP : glad I could explain a bit with pricing, and why it's the way it is. It's only my take on it all, but I used to be in the motor trade a fair few years ago.

Regarding the slavish devotion to certain brands (and the slamming of others on here) it's worthwhile noting that the 'most loved' are the brands that seem to be bought by the ... shall we say older driver ... and thus probably don't do as great a mileage/get as much hammer as the sales rep - type brands. Any car will, if it only does 5k miles a year at a sedate pace, probably last a lot longer than a car that has done 30k a year for the first 3 years.

Anyway, I'm as off topic as the last person who tried to hijack the thread. You like the Touran, then go for it. Hope you find a car that you're happy with, and best of luck !

It's not a case of all the Toyota and Honda worshippers.

I am on my 3rd Avensis company car, my wife drives a Yaris and my son drives an Auris. All these cars are maintained by Toyota dealers.

From my experience, yes Toyota cars do have their problems (I have no experience of Honda so I can't comment). All car manufacturers have problems. The thing thats differentiates Toyota from other manufacturers is the way they deal with their problems. They will recall thousands of cars, and compensate the owners for the inconvenience of the car being recalled, rather than ignoring the problem. Also, with Toyota, there is no, sorry, the car is 2 days out of warranty, thats £mega please for the repair.

My issue is not with people eulogising about any particular brand or model of car, but with the fact that they see fit to ram it down the throats of everyone else.

The OP has quite clearly stated what he likes about this car, and why he wants to get another one. He has also quite freely acknowledged that it has had a few issues.

But even so, someone wishes to belittle his decision and thinking, and proceeds to slam all other makes than Toyota or Honda. To them, if the OP wishes to buy a VW, or any other brand, then they probably need to be belitled a bit more until they change their mind.

Of course, I then (horror of horrors) pick them up on it, and wish the OP all the best with their search. The Toyota worshipper then gets their panties in a twist over it all. After all, I'm not criticising their chosen car, but I'm criticising their worship of it, and their pushing it for all it's worth, hence their post that :

Ad hominem remarks about other posters are not an argument but an admission of an inability to argue logically.

Got some bad news for you. I don't care what you do (or don't) drive. You like Toyota or Honda ? Good for you. I'm not about to criticise that choice at all, just as I'm not going to slam the OP for wanting another VW, or the lady poster who bought a 308CC that had a fair few problems, or anyone else for that matter.

Absolutely - and the OP wasn't asking whether or not to buy another Touran. The question was about pricing, which RobJP answered very effectively in the following post.

Edited by Avant on 02/06/2014 at 18:22

I wouldn't got to toyota based on your disatisfaction with VW as you might just find their customer service equally poor. Of course on here the toyota love fest will try to convince you otherwise.

Personally I'd go for Ford or even Kia.