Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - OSCAR SNAITH

I bought 4 new Pirelli tyres from my usual garage here in Fife, Scotland. They have ruined the ride of my otherwise fine car to the point I thought the suspension had a problem, other garage checked and says it is fine but the tyres are 4.5 years old when supplied.

The garage that supplied the tyres claim that the supplier has told them that they can sell tyres as new that are up to 7 years old as long as they havent been used.

Is this true and if not what can I do about it?

Im sure it affects many people without them ever knowing.

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - skidpan

A well known web site that I have bought tyres from in the past make it clear on their listings when tyres are over 2 years old from the date of manufacture and reduce the price accordingly. For a high mileage user they are a bargain since the tyres will be long gone before they reach the 6 year age when many manufacturers recommend replacing but for a low mileage user even with the discount they may be not such a bargain.

But at least they give you the option.

As far as I am aware their is no law that requires sellers to declare the date of manufacture of tyres but its easy enough for the buyer to look at the code on the sidewall. If you are not aware of this plenty of info on the web.

Try this one

www.oponeo.co.uk/blog/tyre-s-date-of-manufacture

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - badbusdriver

I believe they can be sold as new up to 5 years from the date of production. But at the same time, some sources suggest tyres be replaced at around 7 years from the production date due to the ageing effects. That would probably vary on where you are though, somewhere with a lot of sun for example, would cause more ageing issues than Fife!. Also, assuming the tyres were stored out of direct sunlight before being fitted to your car, I wouldn't imagine there would be any issues because of them being 4.5 years old.

I'd be looking at three things, the type, size, weight rating of the tyre. Tyres from different manufacturers can give a softer or harder ride anyway, but if the tyre is a lower profile, any differences like this will be magnified. You can also have two tyres of the same size, but one is marketed as a sportier tyre which could well it is of a stiffer construction to avoid flexing while cornering. But a tyre of the same size, designed as just a normal everyday tyre, will have more 'give'. As for the weight rating, obviously a tyre with a higher load rating will be stronger and stiffer to cope with the extra load.

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - gordonbennet

I'd be very disappointed to find my newly bought tyres were that old, unless heavily discounted more than usual for a premium make, Tyreleader used to offer bargain prices on tyres that were around 2 or 3 year old stock (those were clearly marked with year of manufacture on the website) i don't know if thats still the case....for high mileage drivers likely to burn them out in a couple of years a useful saving.

If i had paid full price for these then they would not have to worry about me darkening their doorstep again and i would be telling the owner why.

As for harder ride, have you double checked the load rating is correct for your car, some XL rated tyres having higher load ratings may give a harsher ride, also double check the pressures are correct for your usual number of passengers and typical speeds, not all pressure stickers on cars are clear, older Mercs for example the first figure that stood out you would assume was standard but in fact that was for fully loaded and autobahn constant speeds and you were supposed to deduct 4 or so psi for normal driving, but that became only clear on close scrutiny of the sticker.

Those tyres might give a harder ride even if they weren't 3 years old, haven't used that make for years, even the highly praised Michelin sport type tyres i've had to remove from a hard sprung car before due to the excessively harsh and noisy ride, stuck Vredesteins on and it was much improved in both.

To put things in perspective, the winter set on our Forester must be 6 or 7 years old now, they only get used 4 months of the year, are barely worn and show no signs of ageing in appearance or grip or hardness of the compound, they spend time off the car clean fully inflated and in total darkness, incidentally Made in England...amazing we still made something in a factory here 7 years sgo.

Edited by gordonbennet on 06/01/2023 at 10:06

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - Andrew-T

I believe they can be sold as new up to 5 years from the date of production. But at the same time, some sources suggest tyres be replaced at around 7 years from the production date due to the ageing effects.

This is not a new topic for discussion. I was interested to see a note in the Driver's Handbook issued in 1991 with my 205 :

"The spare wheel can show signs of aging ; use it with care. If a tyre is more than 6 years old, consult an authorised dealer" (so many things get referred to 'authorised dealers').

On a 205 the spare wheel is cradled outside under the boot floor, where it is shielded from direct sunlight but otherwise exposed to the elements. I have found spare tyres on 205s much more than 6 years old but still looking almost new. But certainly tyres on road wheels can look pretty tired by 6 years old, and mild cracking seems to be common even if pressures have been maintained.

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - gordonbennet

On a 205 the spare wheel is cradled outside under the boot floor, where it is shielded from direct sunlight but otherwise exposed to the elements. I have found spare tyres on 205s much more than 6 years old but still looking almost new. But certainly tyres on road wheels can look pretty tired by 6 years old, and mild cracking seems to be common even if pressures have been maintained.

It was underslung on an expensive alloy on my Hilux, far too easy to steal, i wrapped the whole thing in thick black sheeting and fed a sleeved motorcycle chain through the wheel and over the chassis complete with serious padlock (which i oiled peridically), not just for security but to protect the thing.

The original spare Dunlop on alloy in the boot of my 27 year old Merc still looks brand new and shows no signs of damage, not sure as i'd trust it more than a get me home circa 30mph jobbie.

One interesting day when collecting defleet rental cars in the 90's, i checked the underslung spare on a classic Fiesta was in place only for the wheel and tyre drop off at my feet, the wheel appeared to be something from the 60's or 70's, possibly from an Anglia or Escort.

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - OSCAR SNAITH

I was not told anything or given any discount from the garage. Tbh I don't think they even noticed but now they are telling me that their supplier of the tyres suggest that its ok to sell tyres up to 7 years old.

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - Bromptonaut

I bought 4 new Pirelli tyres from my usual garage here in Fife, Scotland. They have ruined the ride of my otherwise fine car to the point I thought the suspension had a problem, other garage checked and says it is fine but the tyres are 4.5 years old when supplied.

I think you have two problems here (i) ride quality and (ii) age of tyres.

As others have already suggested are the new tyres and exact match for aspect ration, speed rating and load as the old ones? In the past I've put tyres with a higher than required load rating on our Berlingo as they were (a) on offer and (b) we're often heavily laden with a caravan in tow. No perceptible difference in ride/handling but it's neither a limo no a sports coupe!!

YMMV.

I'd have expected the price to reflect the tyres age; were they priced as a bargain?

Sold "new" premium tyres that are 4.5 years old - OSCAR SNAITH

The tyres are the same load, speed rating as previous ones however these feel like I'm driving on run flats. Another garage has said that's in part due to them being Pirelli and in part due to being 4.5 years old.

I understand that there is no legislation for this other than 10 years old being too old but surely if most countries and even firms like Kwick fit mention tyres being old or at least worthy of being checked once 5 or so years old, I should not have been sold these so called premium Pirrelli tryes at full price.

Im having to run them on my Mazda 3 2.2d at 32 psi instead of sticker recommended 35 psi just to be barrable.