"The problem with the navigation database is also now being fixed."
Sounds like the satnav did its job as programmed and the ambulance crew were exceptionally thic........
Wonder who put in the co-ordinates of the destination hospital.....?
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One wonders what notice they took of the road signs or, in fact, why they are not aware of an area only 12 miles from where they operate; ambulance and patient transport crews in my area cover a very large area.
Surely something on the lines of, say, "Manchester - 22 miles" on a road sign would have ring alarm bells...:-)
I bet they get a right ribbing from their colleagues....
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My thoughts exactly, I'd be worried after 20 miles if I still hadn't found it.
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Hopefully the ambulance crew were only transporters and not paramdedics or technicians, cos, I would hate to think how bad their knowledge of the body could be if they did this :-)
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MInd you are we getting the whole story.....? I often wonder with tales like this.
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Reminds me of two former colleagues when I lived and worked in Cardiff. They set off in a hire car - without road map - for a journey to Peterborough.
They finally turned round and headed back at Carlisle.
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Postcode for Mascalls Park hospital is CM14 5HQ. Miss off the C (or have a software glitch ignore it) and you're directed somewhere bewtween Rusholme and Moss side. Combine that with a dim driver or a working set up where long distance transport is common, perhaps to specialist units and you can see how it happens.
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and you can see how it happens.>>
For a 12 mile journey?
No, I don't gell with that.
Sheer bl---y incompetence.
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I still cannot comprehend how the ambulance crew had never previously been to a hospital just 12 miles away from where they operate - my missus has dialysis three times a week at a hospital some 17 miles away and all the patient transport staff not only know the various possible routes to get her or any other patient there on time (they can come from five or six different transport centres), but cover an area from the extreme north of Merseyside (Southport's boundary with Lancashire) to the southern tip of Liverpool and, occasionally, even further afield.
In fact the patient transport system is now controlled from Chester....:-)
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you can see how it happens.
Er - no.
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Miss off the C and transpose the H and the Q you get Victoria Park Hospital, Manchester...
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In world war 2, there was a prison in South Wales near Bridgend. During the week they'd let the German prisoners out with some money to go shopping apparently. So one day they go to WH Smiths and buy a map and plan an escape.
When they are caught (bearing in mind they were let out weekly so escape easy) they were found in the vicinity of Birmingham.... and Bridgend is close to the Bristol Channel so surely a better starting point. Probably less than 4 miles.
So stupidity and sat nav not really new :-)
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This incident raises something I've long believed. Once you start to believe in technology, your ability to use common sense decreases dramatically.
Use a calculator long enough and you'll end up at some point multiplying 2 by 2 and believing when the answer comes up 6. Similarly, people who rely on Satnav stop using their common sense to check the results.
This kind of thing will become much more common. This one's only been mentioned because of who did it. I bet plenty of it has gone on unnoticed.
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i agree Vin {P} and equate it to people using escalators in shopping centres rather than the steps and then joining a keep fat club to lose weight, (lets hope the patient enjoyed the trip?and it was a trip)
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>>lets hope the patient enjoyed the trip>>
It's very fortunate indeed that it wasn't an emergency case.
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Too much reliance on postcodes, they're good but not perfect.
We got worried a few years back. Staffordshire Police implemented a new system of dispatching officers, which was reliant on postcodes. They'd tested it thoroughly on post codes near their headquarters, STnn nxx, but failed to test it on other codes in their patch, like Bnn nxx. Guess what, it didn't work with single alpha codes so they couldn't dispatch any officers into the southern part of their force area. We only found out when trying to report a stolen car on fire, they wouldn't have been much use in a real emergency.
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unfortunately stupidity is not new,about 25 years ago an hgv pulled up beside us near braemar and the driver asked for directions to a place on deeside which we hadnt heard of so we looked his map to find he should have been in north wales!! he was 300 miles out and all he said was I wondered how I was expected to be in liverpool for my next load in the morning
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This incident raises something I've long believed. Once you start to believe in technology, your ability to use common sense decreases dramatically. Use a calculator long enough and you'll end up at some point multiplying 2 by 2 and believing when the answer comes up 6. Similarly, people who rely on Satnav stop using their common sense to check the results.
I agree with this in part. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with using technology, the problem arises when you react to technology by switching off your brain. I don't do that, and I'm sure the majority are the same, but you always get some thickos! I reckon they were probably already a bit stupid before technology came along though!
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I bet they get a right ribbing from their colleagues....
And hopefully a sound ticking-off from their bosses. Ambulance crews are trained paramedics, and if they were so short of common sense when it comes to directions, goodness knows what they are like on other issues. Just as well that the patient's condition wasn't time-critical.
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Like PU says, I suspect there's more to the story.
And for another example in the same mold see catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/17.38.html#subj1 (Fly Northwest Airlines to Unknown Destinations)
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Like PU says, I suspect there's more to the story.>>
I'd be interested to see any postings offering theories on what that might be.
To travel some 200 miles without realising that something is not quite right takes some believing.
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I only offered my theory on the basis that no-one can be that er...."challanged"
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It gets worse..
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/620195...m
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Satnav should be regarded as another navigation tool,not one to replace maps.I would not think of embarking on a journey using satnav without getting at least a rough idea of the route from a map first.
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Satnav should be regarded as another navigation tool,not one to replace maps.I would not think of embarking on a journey using satnav without getting at least a rough idea of the route from a map first.
I totally agree,I use my wifes satnav now and again and the number of times it tried to lead me up the garden path is amazing.You still should know the general direction and location you are traveling too.The wife uses it for finding post codes but you still have to check against a map.Perhaps we are rellying on technology too much instead of using common sense.
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It gets worse..>>
In this example it seems a case of human error rather than crass stupidity...:-)
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I travel a lot, all over Europe and I'll never use satnav. I don't deny it is useful - particularly for business travel, but it just doesn't do what I want and I certainly wouldn't pay for it in a new car.
All I do is look at the big map every morning, so I have a rough idea in which direction I am heading, then use a larger scale map if needed later on. I use road signs a lot and I get to see anything interesting along the way.
No electronic voices, no watching a screen and not the road (come on, admit it!) and only me to blame for any mistakes.
Satnav is excellent technology, but for most buyers it's just another wondrous toy.
(Ducks back behind the wall...)
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My theory is that this was done deliberately by the drivers after a spat with a manager.
"Sorry we were late we got lost"
"Lost with SatNav? Ho ho, do you think I'm stupid, you must use the sat nav everytime and follow the instructions"
"OK"
Most of us have been there at one time or another, well at least I have ...
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