I thought there was some prohibition on this: isn't that right?
The reason I ask is that a couple of times within the space of 10 miles cars with after-market satnav pulled out in front of me on the motorway; I copuld see they had satnav because it was dark.
It's obviously a distraction (at least to those two drivers); what's the position?
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I thought there was some prohibition on this: isn't that right?
Yes I believe you are correct
The reason I ask is that a couple of times within the space of 10 miles cars with after-market satnav pulled out in front of me on the motorway; I copuld see they had satnav because it was dark.
Ah but it is not a Television screen though
It's obviously a distraction (at least to those two drivers); what's the position?
True a distraction it can be.
I believe it comes under 'undue care and attention' same as hand held microphones on 2 way radios.
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You can't say it has anything to do with satnav, any more than seeing they all had a rev counter and blaming that.
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I think you can.
You can absorb all you need from a rev counter or a speedo pretty much instantaneously; but a map is rather more detailed and requires a longer look.
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What about the voice guidance side?
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Not as dangerous as a temperature gauge. That's why the most up-to-date cars like the new Corsa do not have one.
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What ? !
This!
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=46...6
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I can't understand why Satnav would be a distraction on the motorway - the map on mine only shows about 300 yards ahead normally so on a motorway all you see most of the time is a straight line!
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It's been mentioned in other threads that one's eye is drawn automatically to noticeable things. The satnav screen was the brightest thing in the two cars I saw - unless either had extraordinary dials - and was just below the field of vision. And the screen was on.
Let's not delude ourselves (like we do about whether we can remember who was driving!): if you've got a moving picture in front of you, you're going to look at it a lot more than at your dials.
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Oh i see ! Too busy looking at speedo for speed cameras not got time to look at information gauges !
Not going to restart that thread here but just say i disagree strongly !
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picture in front of you, you're going to look at it a lot more than at your dials.
Novelty does wear off after a while. Legistlation specifically excludes Sat Nav from the TV rules within Con and Use and has done for many years. DVD will be along in a minute with the exact legistlaion.
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The rules banning TVs in vehicles if they're in view of the driver have been around since before satnav was invented. It would be difficult to word legislation to ban satnav displays without also banning digital dashboards.
One of the Range Rover versions has (or had) analogue tv built into the satnav display on the dashboard but the tv couldn't be used with ignition on.
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They were amended to accommodate Sat-Nav (OK it wasn't actually called Sat Nav in the regs)
Under Regulation 109 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, it is an offence to drive a motor vehicle on a road if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television screen showing anything other than information:
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Tis Reg 109 Con and Use 1986 you are referring to:
No person shall drive, causeor permit to be driven, a mv on a road, if the driver is in such a position
as to be able to see,
whether directly or by deflection,
a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than:
State of veh and equipment
Location of vehicle and the road on which it is located
assist driver to see road adjacent to the vehicle, or
to assist the driver to reach his location.
"Television receiving apparatus" is defined as:
any cathode ray tube carriued on a vehicle and on which there can be displayed an image derived from a television broadcast, a recording or a camera or computor.
Presumably cinematographic apparatus, whilst not so defined, will cover DVD ?
dvd
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So presumably DVD a TFT /LCD screen are exempted ?! (as they aren't cathode ray)
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Dunno PU
"or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything "
Catch all?
dvd
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orto assist the driver to reach his location.
So it would be OK to watch traffic or weather reports on television?
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Something about the angle of the TV screen comes to mind. It may be legal if the screen is angled so that it can be viewed by a passenger but not the driver.
However I have seen both cars and lorries where a TV was fixed directly in front of the driver .I even saw a 7 series where the owner had installed a TV screen in the airbag recess in the steering wheel , thus going to enormous expense and trouble, removing a valuable safety feature so as to ensure he ran no risk of being bored while he drives.
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It may be legal if the screen is angled so that it can be viewed by a passenger but not the driver. Yes which is why that you can use DVD players in cars.
and laws were most numerous when the commonwealth was most corrupt. Tacitus, Annals
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Spent a few minutes watching breakfast TV last year!
Only issue was that the TV was on the back of the rear headrest of a Galaxy in the middle lane and we were both doing 70mph on the M40. Pity I couldn't listen as well.
Not quite as distracting as the blue movie showing in the stretched limo on the M42 the year before - wouldn't you slow down to watch!
They may be handy for occupying the chidren but should be banned if they are visible to other drivers.
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