According to my renewal reminder it's illegal to keep a vehicle on a public road without valid insurance.
Are my insurers lying?
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No
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The term in the Road Traffic Act is "use" and "using" it has been held to include simply leaving it parked.
So the insurers are right.
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You can't keep an untaxed car on the public road and you can't tax a car without a valid certificate of insurance - QED
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you could sit it on blocks and it would be off the road
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I think that's called littering - I'm sure there's a skoda joke in there somewhere
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I think we discussed it some time this year indepth - there was a legal precedense established some time ago in relation to one neighbour shopping out the other for storing a car on public road without insurance and MOT where judge ruled that the uninsured and unroadworthy car on public road is technically still USED at all times by the owner regardless of whether it is driven or not. To clarify, to amusement of those who didn't read the thread - in situation as above such vehicle is used by the owner for "standing" or "rusting" or "being on everyone's way", whichever you prefer, but USED never the less.
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[Nissan 2.2 dCi are NOT Renault engines. Grrr...]
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you could sit it on blocks and it would be off the road
Providing it is so many inches off the road (ie on a trailer) then yes, it is classed as not being on the road. That's why banger racers can get away with leaving their cars on the side of the road during the week before the next race at the weekend.
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defender said:>> you could sit it on blocks and it would be off the road
dd said:Providing it is so many inches off the road (ie on a trailer) then yes, it is classed as not being on the road
v0n said:I think we discussed it some time this year indepth
the case is "pumbien vs vines"
Parked car requires MOT and insurance certificate.
Pumbien v Vines
(1995) The Times June 14 Queen's Bench Divisional Court
A motor car parked on a road was being used on the road for the purposes of sections 47 and 143 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 even if it was totally immobilised and could only be moved by being dragged away, and, therefore, required both a valid MOT certificate and an insurance policy.
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Even if you claimed it was x inches off the road, it would need a permit from the council just as a skip would, and to be lit at night with an amber beacon. (another Skoda joke in there somewhere)
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On the public highway, even on blocks, isn't permitted if it's not taxed or insured.
If it's on a trailer it becomes the load and doesn't need tax or insurance.
If the trailer is parked on the highway it needs parking lights at night. The exemption allowing cars to park without lights in a 30mph limit with street lights doesn't apply to trailers of any sort.
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Anyway - what if it gets nicked? - what if the handbrake fails and it rolls over somebody's dog
why don't you just insure it?
It would cover you and everybody else
you know it makes sense
It's the best policy
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Thanks - I'd better renew my insurance before I go on holiday then.
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why don't you just insure it? ....................................... It's the best policy
Good pun! I like it.
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L\'escargot.
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D
given your name, would that be an off road vehicle? :-)
JH
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