Definitely agree with the earlier post on the 1.8 diesel Escort- I drove a mate's (1991 J plate) Escort van a few months ago, only half loaded as well and it was a struggle to keep up in town traffic. Definitely the slowest car I've ever driven. It was a joy to get back in the 306TD which goes like the Japanese bullet train compared with the Escort. It is true to say that Ford's diesels in those days were very poor in comparison with Peugeot's 1.7 and 1.9 XUD engines. A truly different story now though.
Martin
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The current Mondeo 1.8 SCi. Breathless lump it is.
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My first university car - a 1964 BMW 700 powered by a 2 cylinder 700cc boxer engine. Red line in second gear was 30 mph. I had some great fun with it until I blew the engine up one day. Being aircooled it was cold as heck in the Canadian winter, but it was a lovely little car.
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My first car was a 1300cc Mk1 Escort with 3 speed automatic gearbox. The engine was all of 56bhp
and while it could start moving very quickly as soon as it tried chagning up a gear all acceleration halted.
Add a passenger or luggage and even the 0-30 times got worse.
Worst this though was not the performance but the dynamo....on idling the indicators and windscreen wipers slowed right down.
StarGazer
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Avenger with a split in its Stromburg carb diaphram. Drove so slowly past a parked police car that he was able to see that my tax disc was out of date. (Had new one in pocket. Just been too lazy to fit it).
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Looks like you have all been driving fast cars by my standards.. A 850cc Mini slow. A 803cc Morris Minor slow! By the standards of some of the cars of their day, those were positively FAST.
Now an original Austin 7 Ruby post 1930s with a heavy steel body and a sidevalve engine was SLOW.. as was a Ford 8hp Anglia and with only 3 gears...or a Morris 8 prewar..or a Singer
Aything that does 0 to 60mpg in under 20 seconds is by those standards - FAST..
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Now an original Austin 7 Ruby post 1930s with a heavy steel body and a sidevalve engine was SLOW.. as was a Ford 8hp Anglia and with only 3 gears...or a Morris 8 prewar..or a Singer
Quite right madf. People hardly noticed at the time but small cars pre- and early post-war were pretty carp.
In the seventies, a friend offered me a thirties Austin Ruby for nothing. I drove it round a few blocks in Chelsea where he lived. Coming up to the junction with Flood St I applied the brakes and the car didn't even slow down. As I jumped on the pedal with all my force the owner started laughing: that was the moment he'd been looking forward to. The thing slowed down very reluctantly and came more or less to a halt half way across Flood St, fortunately not busy at that moment.
The car must have been worth something to a collector - it went, had leather, no holes in it - but I didn't want it, even for nothing.
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The turbocharged Escort diesel went almost as well as the 306 TD, but you just needed earplugs and well secured fillings to cope with the racket and vibration. In fact, the early 92-93 Escort TD's (before emissions regs knocked the stuffing out of the engine) went like something off a shovel if you could ignore the din or the smokescreen out the exhaust.
Which was hard to do, admittedly.
Cheers
DP
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Current Peugeot Partner with the 1.9 non turbo DW8 engine- slow doesn't begin to describe it.
And not all 3 cyl cars are bad- my 1.2 Ibiza had got a decent turn of speed to it if you rev it.
Ben
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my last car....a E46 3 series 318 coupe
bought it for its looks
but what a dog at the lights
ok on the move but almost died if i tried a fast pull away then the power would pick up
tried all new disa valve etc but to no avail
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Will be interesting to try out all these underpowered cars up Porlock Hill North Devon, or have they done that already?
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Its not what you drive, its how you drive it! :-)
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my husband had a 2.0ltr rover sd1 and he said it was very slow , even slower than his old princess
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Will be interesting to try out all these underpowered cars up Porlock Hill North Devon, or have they done that already? -- Its not what you drive, its how you drive it! :-)
Aha! a challenge eh?
If that is the A39 out of the village of Porlock toward Lynton I might just be tempted to take a trip down there this weekend with the Kenari........
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I've read that the rare diesel version of the Vanguard Phase 1 was the slowest ever.
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I'd forgotten that one Cliff - you probably get the prize. I suspect that a diesel Vanguard could hav been beaten away from lights by an upright, swaying, sit-up-and-beg Ford Popular.
Not the slowest but the most disappointingly underpowered car I ever drove was a Porsche 924 (the original) when a colleague needing to borrow my Renault estate in the early 1980s swapped with me for a week-end. It looked great but under the bonnet beat the leisurely heart of a Volkswagen van.
"my last car....a E46 3 series 318 coupe"....
Younger daughter once went out with a rather self-satisfied boyfriend who was inordinatrly proud of his automatic 318 coupe - until they went in the diesel VW Golf estate that I had at the time and realised that in the acceleraion stakes at least the Golf could have the BMW for breakfast.
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That reminds me, an ex colleague had an early E46 316, dog slow. Supposed to be 100 bhp from the 1.9 against the 318's 115 bhp though it felt like a lot less.
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My missus at 05.30 ANY weekday!!
MD
P.S. Don't tell 'er I said so.
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Just after the birth of our first child I traded in my sporty little Fiat 127 for a Morris Ital 1.3 estate.
Huge body with a 1275cc A series lump. It was only ever fun to drive when it had snowed.
Land Rover did the Discovery with the 2.0 petrol engine from the 800 for a while. Imagine, the performance of the diesel with the economy of the V8. Genius.
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Bugatti Veyron.
1000bhp is way not enough!!!
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being pedantic i know but i thought it was 1001 hp.
ann
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I thought is was 1000 or 1001 PS, I don't know the exact conversion to HP but the VW web site tells us -
'' *Please note: The maximum power output figures are quoted in PS (or Pferdestärken), which is the metric equivalent of horsepower. To convert from metric to imperial horsepower, divide the PS figure by 1.0139. ''
so 1001ps is 987 HP.
I could remember that it was less than 1000HP - disapointingly underpowered!
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Local taxi firm uses Octavia SDI's, even watching them pull out of junctions is painful - god knows what theyre like to drive... 64bhp!
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Only 987hp for a Veyron?
I'll cancel my order!!
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