right hand drive for just £39,040 on-the-road !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a 335d.
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No !! - Yes ! I obviously need help !
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& it's a little car
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I can't argue with that - this was is a monster !
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Yes, the 300C is truly a nimble and responsive car.
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£40k? Can I buy a secondhand Aston Martin for that? £40k? Hmmmm, dronemobile plus interesting Caterham plus Series 1 plus trailer for a selection of interesting vehicles. And a TR6. What is it about BMWs? I'm sure they are a very competent car, but tedious in the extreme.
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You're right - do you want mine ??
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What, and buy something from a representative of the legal profession? ..... ;-)
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You're right - do you want mine ??
I know, you want a 335d dont you PU?
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Help like a ?1600 Wetterauer chip to take the 535d to 350 bhp? (And I've no idea what they'll get out of the 335d).
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i really fancy one of those petrol bi-turbo ones, fuel economy looks good as well.
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Fuel economy looks good? Yes, I'm sure the fuel economy is good. But where is the driving experience? Who in their right mind would set the alarm to arise at 0430 hrs to enjoy a swift 100 miles before breakfast in a petrol bi-turbo thingy created by the sausage eaters? I have a mundanodronemobile, I get into it, I turn the key and off it goes. That's it. It keeps me cool when it's hot and warm when it's cold, the music thing is good but there's nothing to listen to on the radio with the honorable exception of Radio 4, although that's 50% dire rubbish. Is this a measure of how good modern cars are? I can rely on it, I don't have to heat the plugs on a cold morning. What is a starting handle? Where is the battery? How can it not start, it has petrol and I've got the key, therefore it will start. Points? What's the point?
But, but ........... I really want an elderly Dolomite Sprint. In yellow. I quite fancy a 1970s Fiat convertible, are there any left? Or an Alfa Sud perhaps? I already have two elderly Brit convertibles, I cannot possibily justify a third. An elderly LR, soft top with V8 perhaps? In case it snows? And if the oil is runnign out i want to burn my fair share of it, can't let the Yanks have all the fun. An Alfa Sud convertible? Did such a thing exist? Can a Sprint be used on daily basis? Perhaps I should buy another one as a spare?
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High performance? Does that include cornering? No, I thought not. The 300C is a hideous creation.
You sound like you had a horrendous test drive or a really bad ownership experience. On what basis did you base your opinion ?
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Assuming you mean performance car rather than sports car, then surely it has to be the Focus ST. 225 bhp, a lovely burbling 5 pot, 0-60 in the low 6's, 140-something top speed, brilliant handling, solid build quality, Ford parts and service prices, and £16k ish for the entry level model with a bit of haggling.
OK, so it doesn't look anything special, but just look what it does for the money.
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Scrub that. Missed the word "saloon" in the description. D'OH!! :-)
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Murphy goes to the bottom of the class for writing a duff thread title.
OK cards on the table time. I drive a 300C CRD (this won't be a surpise to some !) and I am a very happy 300C owner - won't go into details, but the car does everything and more than ever I could have hoped for.
When Chrysler announce that the 300C was coming to the UK, they initially were quite hedgy about whether the SRT-8 would follow. & now they have announced that it will.
When I startred this thread, I was thinking about "fast" Mercs, Audis, BMW's, Jaguars etc and TBH I never even thought about cars like 3 Series BMW's, road rally cars and hot Focus editions. I just saw huge car, massive power, scary performance and enough long legged ability to take 5 people in complete comfort across Europe. And all for less than £40000.
So once again, sorry about the duff title, but I hope that you can now see where I was coming from.
MTC
p.s. my name is down for a test drive / full day evaluation (invited by Chrysler, no less !!). & I'm saving up my pennies now so that I can REALY enjoy a good day out.
BTW, did you know that there are only 2 fixed speed camera sites in the Lake District ??????
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Be careful! It depends how you define the Lake District! In the middle you are OK but there are 3 cameras near Kendal, 2 at Newby Bridge and 4 in 10 miles on the A 495 around Whitehaven.
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but there are 3 cameras near Kendal, 2 at Newby Bridge
Hi Armitage
In the South Lakes there is 1 camera site at Ings Nr Windermere, & 1 camera site at Witherslack, Nr Grange Over Sands.
There are NONE in Kendal and NONE at Newby Bridge -- you're not thinking of sites where the "double glazing van" parks up are you ?
Armitage, if you are sure that the cameras are there, let me know & I'll have a look at luchtime. I don't like being wrong, but If i am I'll happily admit it
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Sorry to be snobby (actually no I am not...)
"Subaru Imprezza WRX STiUK £26,445 On the road
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 FQ340 £33,039 OTR"
They are hideous cars for chavs with money. I wouldn't be seen dead, alive or unconscious in either of them. I don't care HOW competent they are, they're scum chariots. They appeal to people who think dump valves are "like, wicked man innit".
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They appeal to people who think dump valves are "like, wicked man innit".
Weird...I don't ever recall thinking that. :-S
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Sorry to be snobby (actually no I am not...) "Subaru Imprezza WRX STiUK £26,445 On the road Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 FQ340 £33,039 OTR" They are hideous cars for chavs with money. I wouldn't be seen dead, alive or unconscious in either of them. I don't care HOW competent they are, they're scum chariots. They appeal to people who think dump valves are "like, wicked man innit".
The only person I know with an Evo is not a chav. He's in his early 40's, happily married, and an airline pilot. He bought it because it is just about the fastest and most rewarding B-road car money can buy. Most Evos I see are driven by older people.
I know what you mean about the Impreza though. Loads of the early ones around now with industrial bean can exhausts belching the blue smoke of bore wear, and full of emaciated looking "geezers" with baseball caps who have the stereo turned up to drown out the big end rattle.
Either that or it will contain one of those peculiar shaven-headed, borderline sunstroke red, vest and medallion wearing gorilla types who evoke images of corrugated iron fencing, pit bull terriers and blonde airhead girlfriends with plastic breasts called Tracey.
;-)
Cheers
DP
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I know what you mean about the Impreza though. Loads of the early ones around now with industrial bean can exhausts belching the blue smoke of bore wear, and full of emaciated looking "geezers" with baseball caps who have the stereo turned up to drown out the big end rattle.
Yep, turns my stomach! :o( I liked them before I even remember seeing them on the road that much.
Their image is basically ruined now, though.
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I never thought the Back Room was inhabited by such a bunch of snobs! I know two Impreza drivers, both middle-aged, middle class and not a pit bull or plastic tit in sight.
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If you're worried what people think of you, then get an STi type D.
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I never thought the Back Room was inhabited by such a bunch of snobs! I know two Impreza drivers, both middle-aged, middle class and not a pit bull or plastic tit in sight.
Yep, that's me.
I own an Impreza, but not a check baseball cap.
I have to admit, however, that as used values continue to decline, Imprezas are increasingly falling into the 'wrong' hands.
Unfortunately, 'max powered' Scoobies are becoming an increasingly common sight on Britain's council estates. (so I am informed by people who visit such places).
Impreza used values, once very strong , have collapsed in recent years and a fantastic, low mileage performance car can easily be obtained for under £10k.
They don't all come with gold alloys, either.
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pit bull terriers and blonde airheadgirlfriends with plastic breasts called Tracey. ;-) Cheers DP
No! Not you, Tracey, the other one!
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Stevie
The Evo is probably one of, if not the best handling saloon car ever. I seem to remember t keeping up with a Lambo on the TG track!
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No, I am looking at my 2006 AA map with all the fixed camera sites marked, allegedly! The Kendal area ones are
1. To the south where the road from the A591 comes into Kendal
2. On the A6 to the North at Watchgate
3. On the A591 between Stavely and Windermere
Newby Bridge
2 cameras close together on the A 590, between Newby Bridge and Haverthwaite
Whitehaven
1. 2 cameras on the A 595 where it is, effectively the Whitehaven by-pass
2. 2 Cameras on the A 595 just North of Egremont
I have an Origin detector but am not Lake bound in the forseeable future. I find that it sometimes bleeps to warn me of cameras that have been withdrawn but in the present climate I would think that cameras are on the increase! My info only comes from the AA road map, not from personal experience!
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No, I am looking at my 2006 AA map with all the fixed camera sites marked, allegedly! The Kendal area ones are 1. To the south where the road from the A591 comes into Kendal 2. On the A6 to the North at Watchgate 3. On the A591 between Stavely and Windermere Newby Bridge 2 cameras close together on the A 590, between Newby Bridge and Haverthwaite
Hi Armitage
That's appalling and wrong.
1) is where the double glazing van paks about once a month, not a camera site
2) as above
3) Correct, and the cameras are mounted on both sides of the road
Newby Bridge
As #1
Do they mention the Fixed camera sites on the A590 at Witherslack ?
I don't get to Whitehaven so often so I couldn't offer an opinion.
I like the idea of the AA camera map, but mabye it isn't to accurate.
Thanks for reposting.
MTC
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MTC - thanks for your input. No mention of anything at Witherslack. However, despite being called 2006 the AA Map was published in July 2005 so it is over a year old - it was only correct when it went to press and that was probably in April 2005. The camera data is courtesy of Road Pilot and it purports to show fixed sites only. I'll rely on my Origin and you be vigilant! If you want the AA map it can be bought, of course; I didn't really want/need one but it was £1.99 when I spent £10 on fuel so I bought it!
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Well,
Went in to the local County Show today, had a sit in a humongous 300C estate, truely massive strangely appealing to me. What a monster eh ?
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Oh yeeeessssssss indeed. & the CRD drives very nicely as well.
There is a 300C thread (actually split into 3) on the HJ site. I've put my opinion of the car on there (ahem) a couple of times or so.
From those posts, you can take it that i am a happy camper.
MTC
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Reedeming features ? It's rear wheel drive, seemed (in a 1 minute scan) well put together to me. This monster was black and chrome. It's big, very very big ! Can't think of any neegatives. Als present was a Calibre - the promotion was "this car is ugly" or similar, when in fact it wasn't ! Thank goodness there's no dealer within easy reach.....
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the promotionwas "this car is ugly" or similar, when in fact it wasn't ! Thank goodness there's no dealer within easy reach.....
Hey no PU, the promotion is 'Cute it isn't', meaning it's chunky and looks tough in a strangely winsome sort of way... HJ doesn't seem enamoured of the drive, but may be hoping that foolish London ladies will buy them as cheaper alternatives to Range Rovers and the like...
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I was offered a drive, I accepted. Blancmange is a word that springs to mind. Obese is another. How can anyone with a vague interest in lithe handling and dynamic poise have any interest in such an abomination? Probably OK for trundling through the bad streets of Detroit or wallowing along the wide open spaces of the interstate, but anyone with any intention of making good progress through a tightening set of S bends on a damp spring morning should steer clear.
So I don't think I'll be buying one. It's a wallowing trundler.
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Evening all,
The one I drove in Canada with the standard V6 was a rocket, so goodness knows what the 6.1 V8 is like.
A Belgian company is selling them with an approved LPG conversion, so that´s the MPG problem solved (kind of).
Cracking motor, even if Murphy goes on about his a bit...
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Cracking motor, even if Murphy goes on about his a bit...
quite frankly I'm shocked that someone would say such a thing about poor old Murphy !!
I've not driven a V6 myself, but others that have place the CRD nicely above the V6 and a bit below the V8. I don't think that it bwould be fair to compare it with the SRT8.
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I take it that you weren't impressed then ??
What did you expect of a 2 ton car ??? Kart like handling? It was never going to happen - but wallowing trundler is letting the prose go to far. I'm in regular contact with about 35 300C CRD owners, and every single one, without exception is delighted with the ownership expereince and driving qualities of the car. I can accept that 1 or 2 or 3 people could be wrong, but every single one of them ?
Perhaps t'other owners drive them in a fashion that suits them and the car better, and leaves making good progress through an ever tightening set of S bends to others.
But at least you tried it. I take it that the car you tried wasn't the SRT8 that I referred to in the title ?
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