Anyone managed to haggle when buying from car supermarket, Availablecar ? We're just plannign to have a look at their cars, but their website site say there is no price haggling. Are their price that low without the need otg haggle?
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I have very limited experience of supermarket buying (only at Fords of Winsford) and I suppose that by simply announcing that haggling is a no-no, most customers would not try. Having said that, there is no reason for a seller to cut his price if the cars are rushing off his forecourt. If you can find one that has stuck, you may be lucky.
Of course if you have a part-ex there is no point trying - but again, Fords' offer was in line with others in my experience.
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Hi, my partner and I bought from availablecar earlier this year and after trying to haggle were told that the screen price is the final price, couldn't even get the road fund licence thrown in.
The salesman was very good and as the car was very well priced anyway we still went away feeling like I'd we'd had one over on the main dealers.
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If you are really, really persistant they might take their admin charge out of the final price.
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[Nissan 2.2 dCi are NOT Renault engines. Grrr...]
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For professional haggling techniques, there is a programme running on BBC1 at 10am every morning called "Don't Get Done - Get Dom".
Former car dealer of the "Geezer" school Dom Littlewood claims never to pay full price for anything, and coaches punters into getting big price reductions on all sorts of goods including cars. It is worth a watch, as even dealers who seemed unbending on the sticker price to begin with knocked quite a percentage off when faced with the right patter.
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Hmmmm
i must say there is something awfully difficult about haggling - i have been doing it for years for almost everything and each experience is different on it's own.
sometimes you win and save a tidy sum and sometimes you get nowhere and just end up with frayed tempers (both parties)and a foul mood.
my personal experience is that where there is power sharing in a shop it's more or less no use even trying to haggle - you might as well use that time to look for a different shop
but where there is a strong power heirarchy which is normally found in small businesses or family run businesses where the owner himself deals with you - you have maximum chances of haggling and winning with realistic offers
with the supermarket thing i suspect it would be a waste of time trying to haggle. however if i were you i would probably agree to the price but ask them to throw in freebies like may be extra servicings or a new tyre or fuel vouchers or something like that - they normally reserve these for promotional deals but if you are convincing enough they have enough power to put your deal into the promotional group.
hope this was useful
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Thanks for the feedback.
We have been to the supermarket, and must say they're avergae price. (Not too over priced or cheap).
Onne thing came to ,y mind is that it's ood to buy from AvailableCar if the car is outside the 3 yrs manufacturer waranty, becaue I think they give 3 yrs waranty.
But in the other hand, if you're buying 1 or 2 yrs old cars then these are still within manufacturer waranty - which means the buyer is not gaining anything much You might as buy from a private buyer since you can go back to the dealer and get it fixed.
We wasn't sucess finding one though. Looked at the Polo's 1.9 SDI (3Dr), priced at £7700 for 05 plate with 5k miles on the clock. Our preferenece is a 5dr. So still shopping around and decided not to take the plung.
Also seen a Skoda Fabia for £7200 '05 plate, with 10k miles on the clock. Not too keen with the intrior.
We seen a Corola (petrol) we like it very much, so now we're trying to find one with the diesel, around the £7500 mark.
Any thoughts?
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Perfection
With what you are looking to spend and the size of vehicle, why not consider the new Kia Rio?
www.kia.co.uk/riohome.asp
The diesel is from £8495 on the road. You can buy a petrol one from £7495 OTR with a year's free insurance (before 30 June), although my local paper had one dealer offering them for £6995!
Alternatively you should be able to obtain a ex demo for slightly less.
My wife bought one after looking at the Fabia and Colt. It was larger and adequately equipped for her needs. Its a very good compromise, see HJ's Car by Car report. www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?url=/carbycar/index...m
and road test
www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=189
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Roger
I read frequently, but only post when I have something useful to say.
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Onne thing came to ,y mind is that it's ood to buy from AvailableCar if the car is outside the 3 yrs manufacturer waranty,
The manufacturers warrantee is far more comprehensive than any aftermarket warranty, if you can buy a car which has even just a few months left then you can get virtually anything fixed - broken trim etc etc.
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Anyone managed to haggle when buying from car supermarket, Availablecar ? We're just plannign to have a look at their cars, but their website site say there is no price haggling. Are their price that low without the need otg haggle?
I looked at the availablecar website before buying my car in February, and their prices seemed to be consistently 10% or more higher than at trade-sales or cargiant; I ended up paying less than all of them, at a main dealer.
So my guess is that availablecar probably have good margins, but whether they want to pass any of that on as a discount probably depends on whether they have other buyers. I'm sure that there are a lot of attractions to them in saying that the price is fixed.
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to be honest cars are like partners or girlfriends - you see one version whilst you are meeting for the first time and you might, just might see another when you begin a relation (this is a personal opinion and not meant to offend anybody - apologies in advance)
you can never tell which is a good car offering value for money until you have actually spent several months with it (or in it).
therefore it is difficult to comment on the prices just going by make, model, year and clock reading.
my mate spent 3K on a S reg Micra 2 years ago with very little on the clock - spent around 200 quid every 3-4 months and now it's gone to the scrapyard due to engine trouble.
at the same time i know a chap who bought an R reg Rover for £250 quid - replaced the tyres and now no hassles.
having said all that - the prices do not sound too unreasonable to me - given the background of the offerred warranty and the reliability of the seller but fingers crossed mate.
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I certainly wish well to any firm which does a decent deal without haggling. I never had enough cheek to be any use at it, and would abolish it if within my power (same with tipping).
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My local Citroen dealer was £500 more expensive than one only ten miles away further and his arguement was that he is the local dealer and he would give a better service as such.
I told him that if his attitude was anything to go by, the service was awful, told his manager so and left.
The other dealer was far better but in the end, the car wasnt convincing enough ( C2 Diesel semi-auto - stupid gearbox ).
Haggling isnt an art form, its about being friendly and cheeky without making it a power struggle - if you get an idiot of a salesman, ask for another saleman and refuse to deal with the first one - he will get a roasting if the manager is any good as a real salesman can keep 99% of customers happy.
Its also worth knowing what the trade price of the car you are buying is, so that you can work out their rough margin and how much you can expect to get off - if you can get them within £500 of their buy-in price, most will settle for that aslong as the turnaround costs for that car arent high. Many more expensive cars have £4000 margin in them so theres plenty of room to haggle.
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Dont get emotional,ask politley,make sure you can back up your offer,dont be a ships anchor and make an offer that is accepted,but you then have 'to think about it'.Quite easy really.Be prepared to walk.
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And i forgot to mention,if you want to use the outlet again give the sales person a cash tip,this will work wonders next time.
My brother saved a chunk of money on a new 330D sport 2 years ago and gave a £100 drink to the salesperson.3 months ago our cousin bought a new Mini Cooper for his wife and the salesman went the extra mile because he was introduced by my brother and everything went very smoothly with a nice discount and some cash for the salesman.
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I bet the dealership would take a very dim view of that - possibly a sacking offence. It could be interpreted as the salesman taking some of his own discount.
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I bet the dealership would take a very dim view of that - possibly a sacking offence. It could be interpreted as the salesman taking some of his own discount.
I think the phrase used by most companies is gross misconduct. We were meant to declare any gift from a customer even a box of choccies. A sizeable backhander in cash would be an extreme no no.
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i got a bottle of whisky the other week buts its ok i didnt tell myself
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write the cheque for the amount you are prepared to pay and hand it to the dealer ,if its taken tell them that includes the full tank ,mats etc then sign it ,unless they will lose on the deal they will take it but be realistic.
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