Can anyone help.
I was always under the impression that under no circumstances should you cross a double white line.
Highway code rules 107/108 stipulate what you can / cannot do if the solid line is on yours or the others side, but not about a solid double white line.
Can you turn off a main road into a side road which involves crossing the double white line?
Thanks
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I'm sure one of the resident boys in blue will be along to answer this properly. But my reading of the highway code is that you can cross double white lines to enter a side road.
If both lines are solid then the one nearest you is solid so follow that for double solid lines
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>>If both lines are solid then the one nearest you is solid so follow that for double solid lines>>
This is incomprehensible...:-)
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>>If both lines are solid then the one nearest you is solid so follow that for double solid lines
Good, that clears that up.
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>>>>If both lines are solid then the one nearest you is solid so follow that for double solid lines>>
I'm assuming that this means if the far "solid" line is broken i.e. traffic coming the other way is allowed to overtake if it is safe to do so and complete the manoeuvre before reaching an unbroken solid line on the same side?
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>>>>If both lines are solid then the one nearest you is solid so follow that for double solid lines>> I'm assuming that this means if the far "solid" line is broken i.e. traffic coming the other way is allowed to overtake if it is safe to do so and complete the manoeuvre before reaching an unbroken solid line on the same side?
Use of the phrase double white lines is apt to mislead. An unbroken (solid) white line on your side indicates the restriction. The fact that it's double has no bearing except to tell you that the restriction applies to traffic coming the other way. As a potential hazard, particularly where more than two lanes are involved, the solid/broken combination is the more troublesome.
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Quote - Highway code: Rule 108
Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises *or a side road*. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.
Laws RTA sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
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Does that mean that one is not allowed to overtake another vehicle (e.g. a tractor) that is travelling at 10 mph or less?
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I always thought they marked a motorcycle track.
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Does that mean that one is not allowed to overtake another vehicle (e.g. a tractor) that is travelling at 10 mph or less?
Open for negotiation if you get caught
"It was towing a load of what looked like tarmac officer"
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"It was going so slowly I thought it was parked, officer"
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Note, by the way, that for "cross" you should read "touch", as white lines officially begin on the near edge of the white line.
V
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Not always what they appear thoough. I knwo of two sets of apparantly DWLs which have had tiny (almost invisible) breaks left in them every 5 meters so they are no longer "continuous" white lines for the purposes of the act. Sneaky or what ?
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The act does specify cycles, horseriders and maintenance vehicles as the only ones you can overtake, provided they are travelling at 10mph or less. It does not include any other vehicle even if they are travelling at below that speed.
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I'm certain my driving instructor said the double solid white line was like God, you never cross it (him)
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Therre's something about stationary objects too isn't there?
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PU - that wouldn't be the sort of gap created by putting cats-eyes in would it??
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No not caused by Cats' Eyes. Delibrate.
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Note, by the way, that for "cross" you should read "touch", as white lines officially begin on the near edge of the white line. V
That would seem make it OK for a motorbike to use the whole length of the other side, providing he didn't touch the lines in getting there (and back).
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...but then common sense comes into play doesn't it? Or are we demonstrating that we really DO need nanny to spell things out for us?
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You can cross double white lines, as indicated earlier, if you have to do so to enter a side road or property - however, touching or running over the line or lines with a tyre(s) in normal progress could/will result in a penalty if it is witnessed by a police officer.
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The purpose for the solid (or double solid) line, however, you want to refer to it indicates a hazardous or potential hazardous; bend, blind hill etc.. Being able to cross it to access a side road appears to over ride the hazard. Could you be prosecuted for careless driving if you caused an accident whilst "crossing" the line?
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As you could for any right turn into oncoming traffic that causes an accident or near miss, white lines or no.
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so if you cross to the other side of the road before the double white lines and stay there until they have finished you are OK then? :)
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That was my point - I have seen motorbikes actually do that.
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No no Commerdriver and other errant motor cyclists.
Part of the requirement of DWL is that they are preceeded by deflection arrows on the road surface which are used to indicate the direction in which traffic should pass the double white line. Ignore these and you have crossed a DWL.
DVD
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DVD,
Do you remember a case in the early eighties when a "prominent person" got a not guilty because there were no "commencent arrows" on some DWL. (No names - no pack drill)
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No - hasn't he paid you your fee for defending?
DVD
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No, but I do remember the prominent (at that time) Peter Starsted(?) (might be another 't' in there somewhere) (or was it Sarsted?) being nicked (about 1980) for returning to his side of the road approximately 12 feet (according to the following Police car) after the DWLs started!
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