In the words of the Irish my previous thread , 'mobile owners defiant' appears to have disappeared from the forum.
Any reason please Mods other than the 'handbags at dawn' attitude of a couple of the posts? I thought we had a good discussion going.
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It got a bit too silly and some of the personal attacks taking place were considered ott so it got pulled.
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Seems a bit of a shame. I thought we had a serious safety issue which needed airing about using hands free, particularly dialling when driving. Also whether we need to use the things at all when driving a car.It seems to me business should be confined to the office or at least off the road.
On the road 100% concentration is needed. Turn 'em off I say.
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By all means carry on with the debate. And I agree its serious and needs airing.
The last one disappeared for the reasons No Dosh stated.
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Mark,
I will probably be attacked as much as the guy with the small penis and the two big cars who posted last week....maybe with justification for my attitude to driving and phoning!
It is simply not possible to be in control of a car and to listen to, or talk, on a phone.
I know that it is a requirement for many people driving company cars, with company phones - I doubt if the present Government have the guts to go after the companies for their responsibility in this - but it will be done, sometime, if sense prevails.
Matt35
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I know that it is a requirement for many people driving company cars, with company phones - I doubt if the present Government have the guts to go after the companies for their responsibility in this - but it will be done, sometime, if sense prevails.
Funnily enough I think that is where the pressure will come from, certain companies are telling their employees that regardless of hands-free being fitted they should not now be making any calls from their cars whilst on the move. The driving force behind these decisions is that, now there is some form of legislation, if it was found that someone had an accident while engaged on a business call then the HSE might deem the company to not be exercising a duty of care to the employee, particularly if the call was from their boss. Such is the reputation of the HSE of jumping on these things some companies are not willing to be the first in the dock and have instituted complete bans, I know of at least two companies who have actually removed hands-free kits from their vehicles.
Sadly, like many other things, if people had been sensible in the first place legislation would never have been needed. Yet again everyone becomes the victim of catch all solutions.
Whether the police will be able to meaningfully enforce it is another matter considering the laws which are apparently unenforcable already.
Cockle
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It is simply not possible to be in control of a car and to listen to, or talk, on a phone.
Yes and no. I've said it before, different people have different levels of driving skills. Some feel more confident behind the wheel and can accomplish a number of different tasks without so much as batting an eyelid, whereas others go to pieces at the thought of changing gear, or reversing.
A friend's wife cannot drive the family car when they have their two kids on board. The noise generated from the back seat makes it impossible for her to concentrate, so my friend has to do all the driving. She can't even drive with the radio on.
I drove down the A34 in pouring down rain today averaging 75mph. Spray being kicked up from other vehicles, idiots with no lights on, ect ect. At one point I made a 10 minute phone call (on hands free) without being distracted from my driving at all.
To sum up, some people can rub their tummy with one hand and pat their head at the same time with the other hand; some people cannot. (and obviously not while driving)
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