Absolutely hideous!.

Though there is no way I'd have a JLR product over it, after all you can't see the outside when you are in it!.

Oh dear.....I'm a massive Toyota fan..won't buy anything else...but OMG that is one ugly beast

...no doubt a very good vehicle however.

It looks like Dacia Duster has had dalliance with a Discovery’s ugly sister.

Not great looking but when your life depends on it when you are travelling in some of the worlds most remote and sometimes dangerous countries there is only one choice !

Just when you think Toyota are beginning to get somewhere with their styling thanks to the handsome new Yaris and Corolla, they go and turn out this ugly looking thing. They’ve never sold well here because they’re hugely overpriced compared to other markets and always has been even when you go back to the 80’s and the Land cruiser was always much dearer than a similar spec Shogun or Trooper. I think they’d be better aiming for volume than profit per unit.

Just when you think Toyota are beginning to get somewhere with their styling thanks to the handsome new Yaris and Corolla, they go and turn out this ugly looking thing.

It wasn't designed for us nor apparently the USA as supposedly it isn't going to be sold here or there.

They’ve never sold well here because they’re hugely overpriced compared to other markets and always has been even when you go back to the 80’s and the Land cruiser was always much dearer than a similar spec Shogun or Trooper. I think they’d be better aiming for volume than profit per unit.

Toyota Group currently #7 in volume in Europe with 6.1% market share & climbing having overtaken Ford. Aiming for 7% market share this year which would have them overtake Daimler (6.4%) & close in on BMW & Hyundai/Kia (both on 7.3%).

In individual brand terms Toyota is #4 in Europe so far in 2021 which puts them above BMW as an individual brand & very close to Mercedes in #3. VW are miles ahead (almost 2x) of any other brand in Europe in volume terms though.

I haven't seen figures for European/UK profitability but on a global basis they have margins that most volume automotive brands (incl. VW) would kill for & they are #1 by volume as well.

Edited by Heidfirst on 10/06/2021 at 17:03

I think they’d be better aiming for volume than profit per unit.

I can't see why they would with a car like this - it's never going to be one of the bigger sellers and is a more niche vehicle so profit per unit it what they want.

Cars like the Aygo/Corolla are the volume cars.

Just when you think Toyota are beginning to get somewhere with their styling thanks to the handsome new Yaris and Corolla, they go and turn out this ugly looking thing. They’ve never sold well here because they’re hugely overpriced compared to other markets and always has been even when you go back to the 80’s and the Land cruiser was always much dearer than a similar spec Shogun or Trooper. I think they’d be better aiming for volume than profit per unit.

Loads of old Cruisers in this part of the woods (Cotswolds).

Can't see many similar aged Mitsubishi's or Isuzu.

I agree that they never sold well here, pricy, thirsty, and no badge appeal can be a problem here. They will last well, however if I had to choose a large Toyota I would have the yank only Sequoia.

Aussie HJ equivalent (by much more outspoken) John Cadogan's initial (desktop - no test drive - yet) review on the new Landcruiser:

youtu.be/TaWmsWjco88

He doesn't mince his words either.