All new Mondeos have ABS, thankfully.
£7750 sounds like a fair price but unfortunately they're not hard to find in a dealer like that. The problem is that you have more rights and more facilities (like part ex) with a dealer, so unfortunately recent, large cars like this tend to be a hard sell.
All you can do is sit it out. I'd offer you £7500 myself if I could, I think they're great cars.
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For the second time today can I carry out a small hijack, rather than creating a new thread?
Can someone advise what a 36k V 1999 Focus 2.0 Ghia might end up costing me at auction?
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Depends on who's there on the day, what the colour and condition are like, but I would expect it to be £5,500 or so. Avoid purple and gold especially, but you knew that. Supersites will start them off at around £6,000 and £7,000 from a main dealer (or more, if they are doing generous main finance/part ex offers) is possible.
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stop hijackin me topic u bleeder! :-)
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Thanks for the feedback so far,
I appreciate that it'd sell at £6950 Honest John, but I really don't want let her go for as little as that, I'm starting up in business with the proceeds of the sale, so the more the better obviously.
I've put an ad in the classified section if anyone wants a butchers, the car is two owners by the way, I didn't mention that earlier. I bought it in Aug 2002 as a Ford Direct vehicle with 14,500 miles on the clock.
To answer a query, the non-standard alloys were part of a Ford dealer promotion when I bought the car, they're the Ford 7 spoke type, and they do set the car off nicely, they certainly look better than the dodgy LX wheeltrims.
And yes as someone has already said, ABS is standard on new shapes.
I've even fitted the footwell light bulbs!
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Someone must want to buy my lovely Mondeo, make me an offer people!
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the ford 7 spoke official alloys from a dealer you mean?
mmmmm......... i would be interested if i could get rid of my 125k 406 for an reasonable price!
what colour is it and where do you live?
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Andy22 it's Pepper Red metallic and i'm in Flintshire, N.Wales, about 7 miles from Chester. The wheels are the official Ford ones yeah.
I can't let her go for £6950 HonestJohn, not when dealers are still knocking them out for between £8200 and £8995, without tax or alloys!
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I can't let her go for £6950 HonestJohn, not when dealers are still knocking them out for between £8200 and £8995, without tax or alloys!
But are you going to give the potential buyer a warranty, fully valet, service, and wash/wax the car? That's why dealers are knocking them out for 8k plus.
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Dave,
The car has 18 months Ford Direct warranty remaining.
It is fully valeted.
Taxed for 6 months.
Had it's first service at 14600 miles instead of 12500 (first keeper), now has 20000 miles under its belt, so not due for a service until 27100 miles.
I cannot believe people would rather pay more and get less from a dealer.
What more can i say!
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The car has 18 months Ford Direct warranty remaining.
Bought my Vectra at 10 months old. 26 months warranty still left on it, but the Vauxhall dealer still "gave" me 12 months Network Q warranty. Apparantely the Net Q warranty is better than the manufacturers warranty.
It is fully valeted.
It still won't stop a reputable garage doing the same before a resale.
Had it's first service at 14600 miles instead of 12500 (first keeper), now has 20000 miles under its belt, so not due for a service until 27100 miles.
The garage would still service it before flogging it on to the next punter, regardless of when it was serviced. The dealership I use do so anyway. Not nessesarily a full service, but they would still change the relevant fluids and give it a once over.
I cannot believe people would rather pay more and get less from a dealer.
What makes you think people would get less from a dealer than buying private? Buying from a dealer gives the inexperienced better peace of mind if things were to go wrong.
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Your point regarding the warranty?!
You asked would it be valeted, the answer is yes!
Main dealers will not service or do an oil change if a car isn't even half way between service mileages, the only time this would happen would be when 12 months had elapsed between services, without the recommended service interval mileage being reached.
I was referring to the alloys and road tax included in my price, when I spoke of people getting "less" from a dealer.
The car is at present faultless, were a fault to occur, the new keeper would be able to go to any Ford Main Dealer and have it rectified on warranty.
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Your point regarding the warranty?! You asked would it be valeted, the answer is yes! Main dealers will not service or do an oil change if a car isn't even half way between service mileages,
I guess then the Main Vaux dealer I use is unique then. They always service, and valet a car before resale. Regardless of the condition or mileage from the person who traded it in.
I was referring to the alloys and road tax included in my price, when I spoke of people getting "less" from a dealer.
You are missing the point, your car could have gold plated pin stripes, whale tail spoiler, and numerous other bolt on accessories that cost you a fortune to fit. Just because yours has alloys, it doesn't make it worth more than book price. Some people don't want to buy a car with alloys and all the toys, bells and whistles.
The car is at present faultless,
But who would the potential buyer tend to believe, you or a dealer if that were quoted to them?
were a fault to occur, the new keeper would be able to go to any Ford Main Dealer and have it rectified on warranty.
Granted, but if it were a minor fault, say the wheels were out of balance, or the tape player didn't work properly - things that the warranty doesn't cover. If the buyer were to come back to you and complain; would you rectify it for them? A dealer more than likely would rectify them free of charge to keep the customer happy, and so that they would also come back in the future.
Buying private, and buying from a garage, all have their advantages and disadvantages in one capacity or another.
The fact remains that you are trying to sell a car that isn't in short supply. If you outprice yourself, people will simply go elsewhere and buy it cheaper from another private seller around the next corner. You will never be able to sell it on for what a dealer could sell it for (reasons already given). You've got to stop looking at garage prices and comparing it with what you're trying to sell it for. The garage will win every time.
Your first post mentioned you've had little interest so far, so that says to me that you've overpriced it. The 2nd hand market is dead now that brand new prices have plumeted. I know it's hard to accept, but try dropping the price a little.
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I happen to think that dealers do add a few quid for non standard equipment, so why shouldn't I??
If two identical were parked next to each other one with alloys one without, u trying to tell me there'd be no price difference?
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Actually, our local dealers had a selection of Focuses on the forecourt, all at the same price, except one of them had the CD player with steering mounted controls, the others all had tape players and double the mileage.
There was no price difference, they just pile 'em high and sell 'em all at the same price.
Guess which one we bought. :)
Blue
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If two identical were parked next to each other one with alloys one without, u trying to tell me there'd be no price difference?
If the vehicle doesn't come fitted as standard with alloys, you know you're supposed to inform your insurance company, don't you?
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Yes i do, and no they weren't interested, especially as the tyre size remains standard.
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Had it's first service at 14600 miles instead of 12500 (first keeper), now has 20000 miles under its belt, so not due for a service until 27100 miles.
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I believe you've hit the nail on the head here. If it had its first service 2000 miles late then, correct me if I'm wrong but, the the terms of the Ford Warranty have not been met rendering it invalid. I would be a bit doubtful about buying the car in these circumstances, especially when there are so many others to choose from. Also metallic red is not such a popular colour and as for the dealer prices, well if you are prepared to haggle, you can get up to 20% of the sticker price. I would sell at about £7300, HJ's price plus £400 extra for the alloys, using the fact that they are Ford alloys as a selling point.
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kith,
I purchased the car in Aug 2002 with 14610 miles on the clock, it had been serviced at 14600 miles or there abouts by the Ford Direct conditioning centre on arrival from it's first keeper. The warranty is very much valid.
Apparently i'm talking b******* wanting extra for the alloys, tax and remaining warranty!
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The new model is quite a large car. I wonder how many people think the 1.8 engine a bit inadequate? Not trying to put a damper on your efforts to sell - I think the price you are asking is very fair. Another thing which may put people off is the 'Ford Direct' bit. I've always looked upon Ford Direct cars as a great buy if you intend running it forever - good warranty, breakdown cover, etc, but trying to sell one on after a couple of years may be more difficult than with a 'private owner' history.
I don't mind someone telling me I'm wrong as I've been tempted to buy Ford Direct myself.
Tony
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The 125ps 1.8 16V Duratec HE is more than adequate.
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Peter - I mean this to be helpful, not criticism...
The dealers will no doubt be asking well over a grand more than you're going to get, not only to cover warranty (longer than is left on yours?) and VEL etc but also to allow for either a discount for a) haggling b) no p/ex c) overvaluing a p/ex to match the buyers unrealistic expectation... I'd guess you aren't planning to do those, so I'd suggest not being led astray by 'screen' prices at the dealers. All they tell you is how much they'd LIKE - not how much they'll get! Hence YOUR screen price was £7750 - what's your real price? Needs to be rather lower than theirs to get a buyer... as HJ says, it'll sell at £6950. As you've discovered, it won't at £7750. Not sure what business you're going in to, but if it was the motor trade you'd be familiar with 'your first loss is your cheapest'...bite the bullet, good luck with the business, make up the loss that way!
Just my opinion, but maybe worth considering?
Neil
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Also ... just checked your link to free ad. '6xAB' doesn't mean a lot to me - maybe it does to others, but maybe not... and the mobile phone number wouldn't inspire confidence... Also - you've put 'priced to sell' ... shouldn't that be 'to NOT sell' as you've already discovered? Or £6950? ;-)
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I know how the dealers work, I also know that at £6950 someone would snatch my hand off!
However, I don't think £7750 ono is unreasonable, i'd take £7500 but there's no way on this earth that i'm gonna drop to £6950.
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6xAB is 6 x Airbags and there is a landline number if people read the ad properly.
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Thanks for explaining your 6xAB. Unless they're extras, why mention them? You haven't said 4xWA*- but I bet it's got them! And yeah, there's a landline - I had to look twice, my initial attention was to the mobile number in the body text - and I guess others might have same reaction? Maybe its just me? On the other hand I wouldn't write an advert that I had to rely on people reading carefully - I'd want it to jump off the page!
Cheers
Neil
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Beggars can't be choosers with free ads.
CD Bramall have a 51 plate 1.8LX on their website for £10000, it is 2 months newer than mine, and u're telling me i'm overpriced!
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PeterP wrote:
">and u're telling me i'm overpriced!<"
By definition, you're overpriced for the market you've advertised it in, because you haven't sold it. The price you sell it at is the correct price for selling. But that's very different from value or cost ............... confused? So am I.
And it could be the right price for a different market.
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Beggars can't be choosers with free ads. CD Bramall have a 51 plate 1.8LX on their website for £10000, it is 2 months newer than mine, and u're telling me i'm overpriced!
Again you're making the mistake of comparing a dealer's window sticker over a private sale.
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Again, you're missing the point if you think there should be a £3000 difference between the two types of sale, i'm sorry, but as a couple of people have said, it's not unfairly priced, i'll leave it at that, as the "discussion" seems to have turned into something else.
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Again, you're missing the point if you think there should be a £3000 difference between the two types of sale,
Many factors govern the price difference. Although those motors you're comparing your car price with is £3000 more, but only 2 months younger than yours; is the mileage lower than yours? Is the condition better? Is the colour more favourable? Fewer owners? etc. On top of that, they might knock off £500 for a cash deal with no trade in. They might offer over the odds for the trade in. There's the warranty they'll put on the car (yes I know yours already has one) that'll be ITRO £500. It will be serviced; another £200. It will more than likely have an HPI check. Dealer overheads, a tank of fuel, a gift of flowers if it's a female purchaser - the list goes on.
i'm sorry, but as a couple of people have said, it's not unfairly priced,
But the rest have told you that you've overpriced it!
i'll leave it at that, as the "discussion" seems to have turned into something else.
Hey, you asked for people's opinions. Don't blame us if you don't agree with those opinions.
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Okay - you know what its worth to you, just as others know what its worth to them. I'd be very interested in what you eventually do get - I hope its more than the £6950 I suspect it will be! You've put £7750 ono - which means you'll get starting bids on £6750 to maybe £7k, if you're right about people snatching your hand off at £6950, surely? I mean - what would YOU regard as a near offer on £7500? Your phone has probably never stopped...?
Neil ;-)
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In the past, I have always felt that I paid over book price for a car and sold it for too much under.
If I was you I would stick to my guns and wait for a buyer. It may take time, but you might eventually.
Once someone actually turns up to look at the car, they are obviously interested, therefore haggle assertively.
Why not see what Parkers and Glass's guide price the car at?
Neil is correct about screen prices, but what about book prices?
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Thanks to everone for their invaluable input, lots of "different" opinions, I'll post how much I got once I sell so you can all have an I told u so session.
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Peter, it's basic supply and demand. If you haven't sold at the price you are asking, you are either not getting the ad through to the target audience or the price is too high. End of story. What you think the car is worth is, with respect, irrelevant. Anything is only worth what a punter is willing to pay, reagardless of what car price guides say. As the name implies, they are only guides. Perhaps some peculiarities in the car markey locally to you is depressing the prices of private sales.
Off topic a bit, but a similar situation applies with wage rates. A good case for higher nurses salaries, as recruitment is difficult, but no case for higher fireman's wages, as recruitment is easy.
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Good Luck at £7350 (in classifieds).
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Well i have reduced it to £7350, still no-one biting!
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Forgot to mention - bought a 1.8LX today: April 2002 reg, 12,000
miles, first registered to local firm, but I bought from Ford main dealer - £8995 with a few of small extras - full tank of petrol/mats/mudflaps/6 months RFL. Couldn't squeeze them for any more! Pepper Red - as yours - nice looking car. Just needs some alloys one day.
Tony
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Forgot to mention - bought a 1.8LX today: April 2002 reg, 12,000 miles, first registered to local firm, but I bought from Ford main dealer - £8995 with a few of small extras - full tank of petrol/mats/mudflaps/6 months RFL. Couldn't squeeze them for any more! Pepper Red - as yours - nice looking car. Just needs some alloys one day. Tony
And it sounds as though Tony is too kind to make the point which is that a car about 1 year younger from a main dealer with all the xtras is only £1.5K more than PP is asking for a private sale. At those sorts of prices, PP I wouldn't be risking my money buying a private sale car and that to me explains why you haven't had many bites. You need to load your line up with some more attractive bait....like a lower asking price!
That's hard maybe for you to take, but great news for me and plenty of others who are interested in cars of your kind. But there are loads and loads out there. I'm happy to wait 6months plus if necessary until I see the right deal come along.
Splodgeface
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sorry, & forgot to mention, I want an estate so won't personally be looking up your ad if you reduce your price further
splodgeface
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To be fair, mine doesn't have alloys.
Tony
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PP,
why don't you listen to what 90% of people on here are telling you?!
HF
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Hmm - £6950 is starting to look a tad optimistic then, n'est-ce pas? Assuming your punter - like every other one on the planet - is going to want something off your 'I wish' price...
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