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As per the article
"Owners who may have serious engine problems, as indicated by a knocking sound, an oil-pressure warning light, a check-engine light, or all three, may be eligible for a new engine. "
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Keep it in context - Hyundai/Kia cars sold in the USA are almost all built there, with high local content - it clear from international forums that of the same models sold, the US-built ones suffer more frequent issues than Korean/European -built ones.
Fuel quality isn't as high in USA as Europe (I don't mean octane/cetane) and they're still fond of using mineral oil instead of fully synthetic.
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it's nothing to do with fuel quality, if you read the article.
It's a manufacturing fault at the factory, or possibly a design fault.
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Not a worry for U.K. owners as they're not used over here. Still a big boob from a firm with an otherwise excellent reputation but even the good guys make mistakes, Toyota and Honda even get it wrong sometimes.
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So has anyone had a seized engine over here in the UK?
What's worrying is that Kia new of the Hyundai engine issue (they use the same engines)
but kept quiet about it.
What else are they (Kia) keeping quiet about, that we don't know about yet?
And how do you know that they don't share compenets across continents?
As car manufacturers try to keep costs down, it's enviteable that they will use the same components whenever they can.
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So has anyone had a seized engine over here in the UK?
What's worrying is that Kia new of the Hyundai engine issue (they use the same engines)
but kept quiet about it.
What else are they (Kia) keeping quiet about, that we don't know about yet?
And how do you know that they don't share compenets across continents?
As car manufacturers try to keep costs down, it's enviteable that they will use the same components whenever they can.
Hyundai/Kia are effectively two brands within their manufacturing group - Hyundai was forced by the Korean government to take over Kia when it went bust - all KIA models use Hyundai platforms, powertrains, etc.
Stated local content defines whether components are made locally or not - Vauxhalls are 20% local, the rest being imported - the US has a Federal requirement of AT LEAST 60% local content.
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As has been mentioned, the engines affected are not used here and almost certainly manufactured in the US. It is highly unlikely that any US manufactured engine part would be shipped back to Korea to then be fitted into cars destined for the UK.
But if it such a concern to you, by all means, buy something other than a Kia or hyundai.
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From first hand experience, kia/hyundai do ignore obvious common design or component faults but no more so than the likes of Ford or VW
In there defence, they do offer longer warrantys than most other manufacturers#
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Any particular reason why you are highlighting a six months old article from an American magazine?
Surely there are enough recalls that any sensible person would never buy another car - recent samples:
"Mercedes recalls 3m diesel cars over emissions concerns"
"Volkswagen is issuing a global recall for 766,000 cars due to an issue with anti-lock brakes"
"Toyota is recalling 2.9 million vehicles globally...due to potentially faulty airbags."
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I suppose they are at least recalling the cars (probably for the most part) before they suffer from problems, unlike VAG, which, in my opinion, waited until they were caught and threatened with huge lawsuits/financial penalties to do anything about it (dieselgate and DSG auto boxes in particular).
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I suppose they are at least recalling the cars (probably for the most part) before they suffer from problems, unlike VAG, which, in my opinion, waited until they were caught and threatened with huge lawsuits/financial penalties to do anything about it (dieselgate and DSG auto boxes in particular).
It's Hyundai/Kia USA in the frame here - the US legal system works differently to ours.
Hyundai/Kia USA have done major 100% recalls before now - the first years US production of 6-speed automatics were faulty and all had to be replaced, they tried repairing but it was easier/cheaper to fit new autoboxes as the repaired ones were failing too. The fault simply didn't arise in Korean-built transmissions fitted to RoW markets.
Edited by RT on 03/11/2017 at 10:33
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It maybe 6 months old, but I've only just heard about it.
But it isn't settled yet as Kia knew there were engine failures but they just kept quite about it. Not really the way to treat your customers who have paid hard earned money for a Kia.
Kia did their best not to pay up under the warranty.
It's only because the authorities have FORCED Kia to act that they are now doing the right thing.
What else are they keeping quiet about and making customers pay for faulty products that should be fixed free of charge under warranty.
I am just member of the public, but You and some of the other posters here seem as if you work for Kia/Hyundai, and the excuses you seem to be making for them.
Regarding the other car makers, i agree that the public should be made aware of them, and you can start a new thread for that.
We know products may have faults, but the manufacturer should put their hands up and honour the warranty, and not make customers pay for faults that are the responsibliy of Kia/Hyundai. Because raises an issue of whether you trust this manufacturer to do the right thing.
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It maybe 6 months old, but I've only just heard about it.
But it isn't settled yet as Kia knew there were engine failures but they just kept quite about it. Not really the way to treat your customers who have paid hard earned money for a Kia.
Kia did their best not to pay up under the warranty.
It's only because the authorities have FORCED Kia to act that they are now doing the right thing.
What else are they keeping quiet about and making customers pay for faulty products that should be fixed free of charge under warranty.
I am just member of the public, but You and some of the other posters here seem as if you work for Kia/Hyundai, and the excuses you seem to be making for them.
Regarding the other car makers, i agree that the public should be made aware of them, and you can start a new thread for that.
We know products may have faults, but the manufacturer should put their hands up and honour the warranty, and not make customers pay for faults that are the responsibliy of Kia/Hyundai. Because raises an issue of whether you trust this manufacturer to do the right thing.
I can only speak as an ex-Hyundai customer - I found them better than Ford and Vauxhall which I'd had previously - especially when I needed the engine/transmission rebuilding under warranty.
Your story relates to Kia USA - do you slag off Vauxhall and Ford-UK every time that GM-US and Ford-US has a massive issue?
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Nobody on the forum 'seem as if they work for kia/hyundai', and i can't imagine anyone other than a committed conspiracy theorist would look at the comments made and think otherwise. You, on the other hand, seem to be desperately trying to make something out of this which the available facts and common sense just don't support.
1st, as has been said, more than once, these are US made engine components for engines available in the US.
2nd, you say the authorities forced kia into action, but the article states that hyundai were not honouring the warranty due to what they considered improper owner maintenance. This is hardly new or unusual, pretty much any and every car manufacturer will try to get out of supporting warranty claims if the car has not been serviced according to schedule. Just ask our resident motor trader SLO, who, when recommending a kia or hyundai will emphasise that the generous warranty is worthless unless it has 'full dealer history'.
If you really want to bang your drums about something, do it about cars we are likely to be driving here in the UK, such as ecoboost engined fords.
Edited by badbusdriver on 05/11/2017 at 19:35
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