How much space have the Landcruisers got with the seats down and rear row taken out GB? Would it be anywhere close to a largish MPV? HJ shows boot space but not with seats folded.

The 120 series (LC5) i have now feels smaller inside than the 90 it replaced, but the third row seats unclip complete with their seat belts and removed in seconds where the 90 3rd row were an unbolt jobbie, improves the luggage space considerably in either.

Rough measurements.

Third row out normal 5 seater boot space, length 105mm, width narrowest at floor level between arches 112, useful width above and behind wheel arches 137+/- 10mm as it varies, height 106mm max, rear door aperture 115 wide reducing top 95 at the top, door aperture height 97mm.

I don't have the measurements with 3rd row in cos they is in the spare room, at a guess assume they knock the boot width down to same as between wheel arches, roughly 112mm, they fold up either side to fill the rear side window spaces when up.

Second row dropped, boot space increases to about 165mm length, but roof slightly lower as my version has rear aircon ducting in the roof lining plus room for sliding sunroof to retract, again wider in front of the rear wheel arches, i don't know if the 2nd row come out easily, haven't needed to, you could probably add another 25mm+ to the load length.

I didn't measure the 90 series but it did feel bigger all round inside (surprising how much more roomy a more upright screen makes the car feel plus better visibility), though rear seat removal was far from a 30 second job.

80/100 series Amazon (or 200 series if you win the pools) better for longer loads as it's a Range Rover style split tailgate so you can extend the load bed by a couple of feet if needed, wider too but possibly a bit lower roofline, 90/120 series baby LC's have large single side hinged rear door.

Edited by gordonbennet on 05/02/2017 at 15:49

The side hinged door, is it a problem when someone has parked right behind you, or is the car high enough for the door to clear normally?

In practice you will only be able to open it enough to get a carrier bag or similar through the back door, can't say as i've tried opening it over a bonnet.

Have to say i'm not entirely convinced the 120 is going to be as trouble free as the 90 was for a long easy life, more electronics and doesn't feel quite as hewn from granite, and they've gorn and removed the autobox dipstick requiring jiggery pokery to check the gearbox temp then sling yourself underneath and remove one of two plugs in the sump to check level, brakes are superb but an electronic pressure pump @ ££££ (on 100 series its several £thousand for new master cyl inc pump) sits beside the brake master cyl instead of a simple vacuum servo, signed not impressed of Northants.

yes 90 was Collie or Prado in other countries, but Hilux mk 6 is probably a more useful tool if you want a working motor and simpler.

Edited by gordonbennet on 05/02/2017 at 19:49