Porsche 911 (997) (2004 – 2008) Review

Porsche 911 (997) (2004 – 2008) At A Glance

5/5

+Quick, sharp and fun yet also docile in traffic, comfortable and comparatively practical.

-Second-hand examples relatively expensive.

On average it achieves 90% of the official MPG figure

 

 

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Real MPG average for a Porsche 911 (997) (2004 – 2008)

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Average performance

90%

Real MPG

17–32 mpg

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99

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What's best - a Porsche 997 GT3 RS or a 991 GT3 Touring?

"In the privileged position of contemplating a 997.2 GT3 RS or a 991.2 GT3 touring. Obviously manual linkages are my thing having owned a string of manual 911s over the years and my current pdk equipped turbo simply being too sterile. My question is longevity, enjoyment and passing it on to my son when I'm no longer sharp enough to use the car for it's intended purpose."
There are no bad choices here, as both versions of the 911 are outstanding machines in their own right. Arguably the GT3 Touring is more usable than the track-focussed GT3 RS and so has the potential to be driven more frequently, but the GT3 RS will likely hold its value better over the years.
Answered by David Ross

Could you suggest a relatively easy to maintain and economic to fix modern classic?

"Having sold my two classic Triumphs, I'm at the age where I'm having difficulty in doing full maintenance jobs but still appreciate driving and owning a classic car as my hobby. Is there a car that I could purchase that gives me the thrill of a "classic car feel" and turns heads but is (relatively) easy to maintain whilst, if needed, incur low(er) garage costs for those jobs I am unable to tackle? I have a car for everyday travel and not too keen on a Morgan due to its harsh ride, so could you another two-seater soft top? I have about £40,000 to spend."
It's going to be tricky to tick all these boxes. If you want something that turns heads, that normally means a premium model such as a Porsche. In which case, you'd be expected to have anything but the most basic oil and filter it serviced at a specialist. Plus, if you're after mod cons like power steering, air-con, decent stereo (and soundproofing) then you're looking at cars that are a bit more complicated. If you're after something that's easy to get in and out of and doesn't have harsh ride, then you may have to think outside the box. You could go for something traditional such as a Triumph Stag (assuming you want to keep it Triumph), which is still very much a classic two-seater with a great engine. Alternatively, look at 911 ownership for a bit of wow-factor, and a decent compromise between mod cons and specialist servicing... and don't discount the later Jaguar XJ-S. We know plenty of people who own Honda S2000s and are terrifically happy with them - stunning performance and reliability (see also Nissan 350Z). Sightly left of centre coupe options to consider - BMW 8-Series and Mazda RX-7 or RX-8 if you're feeling brave, Toyota Supra. We'd also have a look at hot hatches - cars like the Mk1 Golf GTi and Peugeot 205 GTI are excellent to drive, have reasonably mod cons, and can be maintained at home... they also have plenty of wow-factor. Perhaps something like a TVR Griffith would also suit you.
Answered by Keith Moody

Could you offer some tips on buying a vehicle from a private seller?

"I'm viewing a vehicle on Sunday and have read bits and pieces online regarding areas of concern. I've also done a background check via the gov.uk website and the AA website. Please would you be able to offer some advice/tips regarding purchasing a secondhand Porsche 911 997 and also details regarding the usual protocol regarding exchanging with a private vendor?"
We get less feedback on Porsche than an enthusiasts' site such as Pistonheads, but do have: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/porsche/911-997-2004/ You can't test drive it unless you have insurance to do so or the vendor gets it for you via someone like https://www.dayinsure.com/. There's no warranty from a private buyer so you have to ask pertinent questions such as "does it have a full Porsche service history", "has anything ever seriously gone wrong with it?" "has it ever been over-revved?" "are you aware of any faults at all with it." That then makes it a Breach of Contract if the vendor misleads you in any way. How to pay is up to you, but whenever I sell I want to do it in a bank where it effectively becomes a cash transaction that cannot later be revoked.
Answered by Honest John

Porsche 911 starting problems

"I've recently purchased a low mileage and fairly mint Porsche 911, 997 manual. However, there is a slight starting problem, sometimes it turns over a couple of times and then stops, turn the key off and on again it starts normally, this can be a cold or warm start. The dealer is being very helpful and trying their hardest, (I noticed it on the test-drive), they have changed the battery, both clutch switches and the ignition switch but still the fault prevails, does it sound like a starter motor problem to you? The odd thing is they have just sold two virtually identical cars and are having the same problem with the other one, could it be something to do with their service and prep? The cars appear pristine, detailed, including the engine bay, which is steam cleaned."
Why does anyone ever steam clean an engine and run the risk of getting pressurised moisture into the electrics? Nuts. Leave it as it is. It's electrical/electronic multipin connectors and the ECU they need to be looking at.
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